s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 1 A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U.
S. to build
Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters
This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping
For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced
bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles..
None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other
setbacks.
On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some
intriguing support.
Officials for XpressWest, which has been unable to secure adequate private
investors in the United States or a $5.5-billion federal loan, announced
that it had formed a partnership with China Railway International USA, a
consortium led by China Railway, the national railroad of the People’s
Republic of China.
Details about the joint venture, the proposed project and its financing were
unavailable Thursday, except China Railway International stated that it
would provide initial capital of $100 million. Project officials say they
are confident construction could begin as early as September 2016.
XpressWest, a private company formerly called DesertXpress, has been talking
about its high-speed rail project since at least 2007. Plans have called
for a 185-mile route that would run adjacent to heavily-traveled Interstate
15 from Las Vegas to Victorville, 85 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles.
Chinese officials now describe the project as a 230-mile route with an
additional stop in Palmdale and eventual service throughout the Los Angeles
area using some of the same track that would be used by the publicly backed
California high-speed rail project.
Federal railroad records indicate that XpressWest has already secured
approvals and permits from a number of federal agencies for the 185-mile
route. Additional permits, approvals and environmental analysis would be
needed for the 230-mile proposal.
“As China's first high-speed railway project in the United States, the
project will be a landmark in overseas investment for the Chinese railway
sector and serve as a model of international cooperation,” Yang Zhongmin,
chairman of China Railway International, told the state-run Xinhua News
Agency.
Chinese officials disclosed the joint venture during a news conference in
Beijing. XpressWest representatives also issued a brief statement on their
website, but declined to comment until additional regulatory approvals are
obtained.
The announcements of cooperation come just days before Chinese President Xi
Jinping’s state visit to the United States.
XpressWest agreed this month to form a joint venture with China Railway
International to build and operate the railway, Shu Guozeng, deputy head of
the government's Office of the Central Leading Group for Financial and
Economic Affairs, said at the news conference, according to Xinhua.
China has built the most extensive high-speed railway network in the world
with about 10,000 miles of track. The nation’s train makers and railroad
builders are eager to expand overseas now that China’s network is somewhat
built-out and the country’s domestic economy is slowing.
“Little is known yet, but this is fascinating,” said Martin Wachs,
professor emeritus of urban planning at UCLA and former director of the UC
Transportation Center, a research institute. “If this is serious and a real
commitment that allows XpressWest to build something, that is important.”
Wachs said the motive for the Chinese might be to establish a toehold in the
nascent high-speed rail industry in the United States.
This article makes it sound so simple and easy. Californian's voted for a $9
billion bond, turned into a $68 billion bill for a non-stop "bullet train"
from L.A. to S.F. in 3 hours. That's now a $100 billion project re-directed
up the central valley with multiple stops,...
“Even if they lose money,” he added, “they could develop a market for
Chinese technology and services by demonstrating that they can implement a
project.”
According to the XpressWest website and its Chinese counterpart, the train
would transport passengers between Las Vegas and Victorville in 80 minutes,
with fares set at $89. Many L.A.-area riders, however, would still have to
drive or take buses to the station using busy I-15.
According to the project’s environmental analysis, the train would attract
enough passengers to reduce I-15 traffic by about 3 million annual trips.
Because of heavy weekend traffic on the highway, driving between Southern
California and Las Vegas can take at least four hours.
Project officials say the transportation shift would reduce air pollution
from automobiles, cut fuel consumption, improve highway safety and limit the
need to expand I-15.
Lisa Marie Alley, a spokeswoman for the California High-Speed Rail Authority
, said the agency has had ongoing discussions with XpressWest to explore
combining both systems and to ensure that XpressWest trains are designed to
operate on the authority’s track. Alley added that the high-speed rail
authority has not yet allowed XpressWest to use its right-of-way.
XpressWest materials state that although the project has adopted an “
assemble and manufacture in America” plan, the manufacturing base for high-
speed trains is “not yet mature.”
Therefore, venture backers indicated they intended to partner with foreign
suppliers for the estimated 42 train sets they anticipate needing, with
assembly being performed in southern Nevada.
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x******g 发帖数: 33885 | 2 这个价跟中国的高铁票价看齐了
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 5 不过你们 californian 也别高兴太早。 加州政府的 High- speed Rail authority 如
是说,看来人家对你的高铁质量很怀疑,还没有被批准。 拿钱给人白修,还不知道最
后人家要不要呢。
而那个和中国合作的 XpressWest似乎在反驳说,反正美国自己的高铁组装和生产技术
也“not yet mature.”
Lisa Marie Alley, a spokeswoman for the California High-Speed Rail Authority
, said the agency has had ongoing discussions with XpressWest to explore
combining both systems and to ensure that XpressWest trains are designed to
operate on the authority’s track. Alley added that the high-speed rail
authority has not yet allowed XpressWest to use its right-of-way.
XpressWest materials state that although the project has adopted an “
assemble and manufacture in America” plan, the manufacturing base for high-
speed trains is “not yet mature.” |
u***n 发帖数: 21026 | 6 克里哭着喊着跑到O巴马面前,老佛爷,洋人的铁路会坏了祖宗的风水 |
t******g 发帖数: 4044 | 7 这个很便宜呀,比开车舒服多了,当天往返去vegas赌两把。熬夜也不怕累了。
【在 x******g 的大作中提到】 : 这个价跟中国的高铁票价看齐了
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M****J 发帖数: 2908 | 8 LA-LV 高铁, 中方巨亏风险大, 米国大赢
中国得标是因为:中国要出资60几亿美元+出技术,美方将得到高铁技术,未来营运如果亏
损中方也要分摊损失,如果中方放弃分摊亏损,整个合资股份将被美方全部拥有,美国只
出少部份金钱,这笔买卖美方最终都是赢家! |
s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 9 可你们得看明白了!
来回$89洋银子。 不是从LA - LV,而是从 victorville 到 las vegas! 你得开
70miles 先到 victorville, 然后那里给你建设个 free parking lots, 你把车停在
那里,然后从那里坐火车到 las vegas. 回来时再在那里下火车后,开70 miles 回你
家。 |
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b******s 发帖数: 5329 | 11 听起来中方就是傻子。100年前中国人给外国修铁路,100年后还干这种傻事,中国这个
国家算是傻B加白痴!不给钱就不修!
果亏
【在 M****J 的大作中提到】 : LA-LV 高铁, 中方巨亏风险大, 米国大赢 : 中国得标是因为:中国要出资60几亿美元+出技术,美方将得到高铁技术,未来营运如果亏 : 损中方也要分摊损失,如果中方放弃分摊亏损,整个合资股份将被美方全部拥有,美国只 : 出少部份金钱,这笔买卖美方最终都是赢家!
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 12 这个其实你不需要多虑。 说实话,你有什么高铁技术? 不就是到处采购,乱求组装的
大杂烩嘛? 美国大不了就是想让你拿钱给我修一条看看能不能赚钱,如果行,人家一
夜就搞出来比你牛逼海了的高铁了。
至于技术,你不过是班门弄斧,关公门前耍大刀而已,不必自我陶醉和太过庸人自犹。
果亏
【在 M****J 的大作中提到】 : LA-LV 高铁, 中方巨亏风险大, 米国大赢 : 中国得标是因为:中国要出资60几亿美元+出技术,美方将得到高铁技术,未来营运如果亏 : 损中方也要分摊损失,如果中方放弃分摊亏损,整个合资股份将被美方全部拥有,美国只 : 出少部份金钱,这笔买卖美方最终都是赢家!
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w*******r 发帖数: 7276 | 13 Victorville 来回89,LA的话得140吧?
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announced
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 14 $89太贵了。自己开车230麦来回,40mpg的车,油费也就$20。如果车上载
四个人的话,太划算了。只有一个人去vegas,而且极其不爱开车的,才
有可能考虑$89的高铁。 |
l******t 发帖数: 55733 | 15
Authority
to
懂英文吗?sb。说的是组装基地没盖好
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : 不过你们 californian 也别高兴太早。 加州政府的 High- speed Rail authority 如 : 是说,看来人家对你的高铁质量很怀疑,还没有被批准。 拿钱给人白修,还不知道最 : 后人家要不要呢。 : 而那个和中国合作的 XpressWest似乎在反驳说,反正美国自己的高铁组装和生产技术 : 也“not yet mature.” : Lisa Marie Alley, a spokeswoman for the California High-Speed Rail Authority : , said the agency has had ongoing discussions with XpressWest to explore : combining both systems and to ensure that XpressWest trains are designed to : operate on the authority’s track. Alley added that the high-speed rail : authority has not yet allowed XpressWest to use its right-of-way.
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i********r 发帖数: 12113 | 16 拉斯维加斯赌场给LA中国城的大妈大爷免费发高铁票去赌钱,还包饭
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】 : 这个很便宜呀,比开车舒服多了,当天往返去vegas赌两把。熬夜也不怕累了。
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k**0 发帖数: 19737 | 17 89很便宜了!
NYC每天坐火车上班也不便宜
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【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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L*****d 发帖数: 5093 | 18 是不是赌场有补贴啊,这票价在美帝的运营成本会亏得内裤都没了
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【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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m********g 发帖数: 10469 | 19 和飞机比优势不大
【在 w*******r 的大作中提到】 : Victorville 来回89,LA的话得140吧? : : U. : announced
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 20 按照中国的说法,是要修到los angeles的, 也就是 从 lv - Victorville -
Palmdale - la,
按照联邦的方案是:从 lv - Victorville - Anaheim (la), 这样,把 Disney 和 las
vegas 就连在了一起。
但是,加州政府如意算盘是:先修从 san francisco - los angeles 完全在加州境内
的高铁,而且也已经通过了一个$6.8亿的计划,对这条从sf - la 直达高铁进行先期评
估。但搞着搞着有了意见,中间那些地方的人说,你tmd从 sf 到 la 直达,不在我们
这里停,还修个毛修。 三折腾两意见的,最后计划又变了,说那就加到10亿美元,在
中途多设几个靠停站,把直达高铁搞成一路走一路停的高铁。
但这个sf - la的计划,到了 la却必须穿越落基山脉很庞大的一段,蛮废银子的。 由
于是州内的路联邦不管。 所以,加州就琢磨起了花子,打起了 联邦计划中的 lv - la
高铁的主意。说你那个高铁到了 victorville 后,不要直接下山了,应当往西拐弯,
折到 palmdale, 然后从那里往南拐,穿过落基山脉到los Angeles.
这个阴谋对加州的好处是,当lv - la 的高铁利用中国和联邦的钱(如果联邦付一部分
的话),把 Palmdale 南边的山打通后,加州自己从 sf - la 的高铁可以在 palmdale
和 lv - la 的高铁对接,然后利用你已经打通的山路就直接到la了,因此可以节省大
笔大笔的银子。
加州的这个方案,纯粹是为了给自己省钱让联邦和中国为它打通山路,因为本来从
victorville - palmdale 本来也在沙漠中,这80miles 于此拐弯穿越人烟稀少的
desert纯属浪费和多余。如果从 victorville - san Bernardino/riverside - la 的
话,不光省钱,而且直接东西灌穿了大los angeles 地区,将会覆盖大量的人口密集区
。或者直接经从 ictorville - onterio - anahiem, 南北贯穿大 los angeles. 同时
让 sf - la 的高铁让加州自己在 Palmdale 南边过山后在 anahiem 和 lv - la 的高
铁对接,那更是最合理和科学的计划了。但加州为了省钱,说明白点就是为了让 lv -
la 的高铁能拐弯到跟前和自己的州内sf-la在 palmdale 实现对接而帮助其过山。 这
样,就明显亏了洛杉矶东部和南部的人。
当然了,这么做,如果从 lv-la的钱都是中国出的,联邦政府也就睁一只眼,闭一只眼
了。至于中国嘛,为了给自己立牌坊,也tmd估计咬咬牙就无所谓了。
haha, interesting, right?
【在 d**********r 的大作中提到】 : 为何不挖洞连到市区?
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m*****u 发帖数: 15526 | 21 诸位没去过赌场?还用得着自己掏钱travel?坐赌场大巴免费外带送筹码。不要太爽。
高铁开了,估计赌场也能给报销车票
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【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 22 你懂个屁! 你tmd压根就不懂人在说什么。人家说的意思美国就没有manufacturing
and assembling "not yet mature". 就是说美国的高铁行当还不成熟。
你tmd五毛傻逼,就用google 翻译成了“组装基地没盖好”? 你这傻逼日你妈都都找
不到向口。
【在 l******t 的大作中提到】 : : Authority : to : 懂英文吗?sb。说的是组装基地没盖好
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d**********r 发帖数: 24123 | 23 尼玛,真狡猾
las
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : 按照中国的说法,是要修到los angeles的, 也就是 从 lv - Victorville - : Palmdale - la, : 按照联邦的方案是:从 lv - Victorville - Anaheim (la), 这样,把 Disney 和 las : vegas 就连在了一起。 : 但是,加州政府如意算盘是:先修从 san francisco - los angeles 完全在加州境内 : 的高铁,而且也已经通过了一个$6.8亿的计划,对这条从sf - la 直达高铁进行先期评 : 估。但搞着搞着有了意见,中间那些地方的人说,你tmd从 sf 到 la 直达,不在我们 : 这里停,还修个毛修。 三折腾两意见的,最后计划又变了,说那就加到10亿美元,在 : 中途多设几个靠停站,把直达高铁搞成一路走一路停的高铁。 : 但这个sf - la的计划,到了 la却必须穿越落基山脉很庞大的一段,蛮废银子的。 由
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d**z 发帖数: 3577 | 24
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估计最后就是赠送,反正是汉奴买单。
后清最擅长装阔,丢里子换面子。
而洋大人更懂后清心理,夸几句拿几亿。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 25 你没有看,洋人今天la times的新闻,人家明白得很,知道你的目的是做广告,是想推
销你的高铁。 最后我估计这条路,基本都是中国拿钱修而已。
但问题是,中国工人要来修还是让美国工人来修,你给人付钱,区别大了去了。中国工
人来修的话,还好一些,等于自己出点力气,捐献了一条路和42对列车而已,但总归自
己给自己发了工资,工人们来美国转了几年,好不好也就算了。
如果美国工人修,自己给人发工资,一搞多少年,那就他们的太不合算了。
【在 d**z 的大作中提到】 : : U. : announced : 估计最后就是赠送,反正是汉奴买单。 : 后清最擅长装阔,丢里子换面子。 : 而洋大人更懂后清心理,夸几句拿几亿。
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l*******1 发帖数: 16217 | 26 应该中国工人来修,找老莫和红脖子修,成本控制不住 |
a****e 发帖数: 9589 | 27 还 free parking lots 你呢。你看哪个机场的 parking lots 是free 的?
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : 可你们得看明白了! : 来回$89洋银子。 不是从LA - LV,而是从 victorville 到 las vegas! 你得开 : 70miles 先到 victorville, 然后那里给你建设个 free parking lots, 你把车停在 : 那里,然后从那里坐火车到 las vegas. 回来时再在那里下火车后,开70 miles 回你 : 家。
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 28 按我看到的东西,现在说的在 victorville 的parking lots 将来是free的,但到时候
要不要钱就不知道了。
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】 : 还 free parking lots 你呢。你看哪个机场的 parking lots 是free 的?
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t******g 发帖数: 4044 | 29 你怎么算的?欺负大家没开过车?单程20块钱油还差不多。主要开车比较累。
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】 : $89太贵了。自己开车230麦来回,40mpg的车,油费也就$20。如果车上载 : 四个人的话,太划算了。只有一个人去vegas,而且极其不爱开车的,才 : 有可能考虑$89的高铁。
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y******9 发帖数: 1392 | 30 如果十分SF-LA的线路工程也给中国,不是不可以考虑啊,多花一点钱,搞到两个项目
,前提是要先签协议,再给他们挖山洞。 |
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y******9 发帖数: 1392 | 32 中国出钱的话绝对是中国工程队,找美国人修,这路得修到2050年去,一点不夸张。 |
k*****n 发帖数: 537 | 33 赫赫,等你洋爹搞出来再放屁吧。老子当年真应该把你射马桶里。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : 这个其实你不需要多虑。 说实话,你有什么高铁技术? 不就是到处采购,乱求组装的 : 大杂烩嘛? 美国大不了就是想让你拿钱给我修一条看看能不能赚钱,如果行,人家一 : 夜就搞出来比你牛逼海了的高铁了。 : 至于技术,你不过是班门弄斧,关公门前耍大刀而已,不必自我陶醉和太过庸人自犹。 : : 果亏
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k**1 发帖数: 1955 | 34 修高铁不如修水渠
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【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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b*******8 发帖数: 37364 | 35 肯定的。赌场最后都找TG报销
【在 m*****u 的大作中提到】 : 诸位没去过赌场?还用得着自己掏钱travel?坐赌场大巴免费外带送筹码。不要太爽。 : 高铁开了,估计赌场也能给报销车票 : : U. : announced
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 36 你把你爹射到你妈逼里去好了! 当年,你爹让驴和狗一起把你妈逼操成糊辣汤了! 给
你妈逼里灌了两瓢洋米汤,让猪日起来咕咚咕咚响。 你妈很hight!
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】 : 赫赫,等你洋爹搞出来再放屁吧。老子当年真应该把你射马桶里。
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 37 听好了,你妈让薄熙来咬了奶头,让小手日了! 另外你妈还让你日了! 操你妈个大血
逼!
【在 k*****n 的大作中提到】 : 赫赫,等你洋爹搞出来再放屁吧。老子当年真应该把你射马桶里。
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h********0 发帖数: 12056 | 38 土共会不会重新向美国输出华工? 这些可怜的人, 每天睡在工棚里,不懂英语,给的
工钱
估计是美国人的 1/10.
U.
announced
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U. : S. to build : Julie Makinen and Dan Weikel contact the reporters : This article is related to: Asia, China, Xi Jinping : For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced : bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.. : None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other : setbacks. : On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some : intriguing support.
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l********k 发帖数: 14844 | 39 星期五晚上下班上火车去vegas,连赌带嫖到清晨七点,上车,车上眯一觉,完全不耽
周末带老婆孩子逛公园。
【在 t******g 的大作中提到】 : 这个很便宜呀,比开车舒服多了,当天往返去vegas赌两把。熬夜也不怕累了。
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s*******l 发帖数: 8210 | 40 不过, 让中国工人来修估计很难,因为劳工法是联邦法,州管不了,除非给这些工人
办 M 类签证, 给技术人员办 H 签证, 可一旦办了签证,这些人的老婆娃娃就都能
来美国, 还可以申请绿卡,哈哈,联邦政府会左右为难。
lol
【在 h********0 的大作中提到】 : 土共会不会重新向美国输出华工? 这些可怜的人, 每天睡在工棚里,不懂英语,给的 : 工钱 : 估计是美国人的 1/10. : : U. : announced
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s*****r 发帖数: 43070 | 41 把老婆孩子仍在LA也不现实,方便贪官来看二奶,然后带着二奶去LV happy
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】 : 星期五晚上下班上火车去vegas,连赌带嫖到清晨七点,上车,车上眯一觉,完全不耽 : 周末带老婆孩子逛公园。
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t******g 发帖数: 4044 | 42 这不用担心,为了不给党抹黑,不给洋大人添麻烦,当自然会管好工人,不让他们带家
属来美国的。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】 : 不过, 让中国工人来修估计很难,因为劳工法是联邦法,州管不了,除非给这些工人 : 办 M 类签证, 给技术人员办 H 签证, 可一旦办了签证,这些人的老婆娃娃就都能 : 来美国, 还可以申请绿卡,哈哈,联邦政府会左右为难。 : lol
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r****a 发帖数: 1212 | 43 不要造谣,建筑工人在中国也几千一个月,这都比美国工人1/10高了,难道来美国干活
工资更低?更低人家回来吗?
更何况美国不允许这样,不记得印度大使馆的给工人工资低被查的事了?
【在 h********0 的大作中提到】 : 土共会不会重新向美国输出华工? 这些可怜的人, 每天睡在工棚里,不懂英语,给的 : 工钱 : 估计是美国人的 1/10. : : U. : announced
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