b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 1 The Folly of Big Science Awards
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
source of funding for any basic agricultural research. |
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发帖数: 10787 | |
e*******n
发帖数: 2178 | 3 proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
no public support at all.
这是啥记者？记者的逻辑性都很低，不管中国还是美国。
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: The Folly of Big Science Awards
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
: The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
: same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
: science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
: forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
: ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
: proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
: no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
: everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
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c*********e
发帖数: 16335 | 4 发明trans fat的人得过诺贝尔奖。
科学总是在向前进的。今天的发现，可能就在将来被证明是错的。
getting
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: The Folly of Big Science Awards
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
: The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
: same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
: science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
: forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
: ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
: proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
: no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
: everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
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v**********m
发帖数: 5516 | 5 培养的数量远超社会所需要的数量，培养模式是指数级扩增，一个教授一生培养数十个
博士，远超正常的新陈代谢的速度。一个教授退休数十个来填坑，而且此教授因为高薪
终身位置，往往还不愿退休，焉能不变态？
getting
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: The Folly of Big Science Awards
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
: The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
: same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
: science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
: forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
: ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
: proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
: no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
: everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
|
c****3
发帖数: 10787 | 6 还是生物行业的生态系统变态。
别的行业，人家不在学校混了，不搞科学了，能比较容易找到本行业公司的工作。此处
不留爷，自有留爷处，教授也不敢装大爷，形成良性的双向选择。
【在 v**********m 的大作中提到】
: 培养的数量远超社会所需要的数量，培养模式是指数级扩增，一个教授一生培养数十个
: 博士，远超正常的新陈代谢的速度。一个教授退休数十个来填坑，而且此教授因为高薪
: 终身位置，往往还不愿退休，焉能不变态？
:
: getting
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 7 我以前的教授每天来上班，除了参加组里的开会以外，就是写grant proposal。我从那
时就下决心了，我这一辈子绝对不当教授。
getting
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: The Folly of Big Science Awards
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
: The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
: same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
: science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
: forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
: ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
: proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
: no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
: everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
|
f******t
发帖数: 19544 | |
f******t
发帖数: 19544 | 9 拿到经费不往研究上花，买没有的仪器设备，到处公关，骗更多的房顶。认真搞研究的
早早都死球了。 |
n**********5
发帖数: 1707 | 10 学界和工业界是死对头。在学界，几个学霸把持funding就可以把你憋死。每年哪可怜
巴巴的几个小钱真可怜。所以邪恶的都是工业界。自己有钱干啥都行。克隆人都没人管。
俺办公室一半人吃饱了撑的都有事情干。俺跑了路的director以前在自己办公室捣鼓中
学生们捣鼓的机器人。和我最friend的那位高加索人在研究电池。Cubic里收了无数破
烂。把废旧笔记本电池收回来拆开。从中国进口无数几块钱的小模块做电池的试验。
其实哪些学霸又能把持多久。就连图灵奖也越来越多是工业界得奖。炸药奖不也照样有
有应用领域的获奖。深圳哪几个上Cell杂志的就压根不鸟中科院哪些老爷们。你不鸟他
们，他们就屁都不是。
getting
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: The Folly of Big Science Awards
: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/opinion/the-folly-of-big-scie
: The bigger problem is that the awarding of grants and funding follows the
: same pattern, and the problem extends from medicine to all disciplines of
: science. As an agricultural scientist, I can tell you many researchers are
: forced to spend up to 30% of their time writing proposals (that now have
: ridiculously onerous eligibility / matching funds requirements etc.),
: proposals that have a 3% success rate. So 97% of the scientists are getting
: no public support at all. Proposal-writing has become a complete waste of
: everyone's valuable time, and the USDA is now virtually worthless as a
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