i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 1 民众精神状态on the edge。Gun control or NOT, keep on debating...
越搅混水，越多disinformation，越有不确定性， 对枪支生意越好。
犯罪率上升－－－那还不赶紧买枪防身。
犯罪率下降－－－你看买枪买对了吧，继续买。
“枪越多越安全” pro-gun lobby， NRA 金身不败的名言。
mass shooting后－－－丫的DEM要禁枪了，还不趁便宜没禁前，再多买点。
Gun industry 总归是财源滚滚。
美国人均一人一枪了（包括婴儿），这显然还远远不够呀。 |
r*********e
发帖数: 7733 | 2 再来句名言。if you cannot fight them, then join them.
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 民众精神状态on the edge。Gun control or NOT, keep on debating...
: 越搅混水，越多disinformation，越有不确定性， 对枪支生意越好。
: 犯罪率上升－－－那还不赶紧买枪防身。
: 犯罪率下降－－－你看买枪买对了吧，继续买。
: “枪越多越安全” pro-gun lobby， NRA 金身不败的名言。
: mass shooting后－－－丫的DEM要禁枪了，还不趁便宜没禁前，再多买点。
: Gun industry 总归是财源滚滚。
: 美国人均一人一枪了（包括婴儿），这显然还远远不够呀。
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j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | |
i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 4 拥枪派很多誓言蛋蛋誓死捍卫第二修正案。
可是Katrina飓风过后，国民警卫队要收缴New Orleans的私枪，还不是乖乖缴了。
天灾过后的救援，全世界也只有美国还要担心这个了，够奇葩的。
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
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r********1
发帖数: 7345 | 5 很多人没有交吧 还有一个老太最后还打官司讨回公道
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 拥枪派很多誓言蛋蛋誓死捍卫第二修正案。
: 可是Katrina飓风过后，国民警卫队要收缴New Orleans的私枪，还不是乖乖缴了。
: 天灾过后的救援，全世界也只有美国还要担心这个了，够奇葩的。
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 6 从枪党，到有点枪教，枪轮的趋势了。
【在 r*********e 的大作中提到】
: 再来句名言。if you cannot fight them, then join them.
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 7 上千的收缴里，有多少就地“反抗暴政”的？一个老太太。
【在 r********1 的大作中提到】
: 很多人没有交吧 还有一个老太最后还打官司讨回公道
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s*****e
发帖数: 16824 | 8 关键是还把中国枪支制造商给禁了，结果这帮人一点竞争压力都没有，卖得暴贵。
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 民众精神状态on the edge。Gun control or NOT, keep on debating...
: 越搅混水，越多disinformation，越有不确定性， 对枪支生意越好。
: 犯罪率上升－－－那还不赶紧买枪防身。
: 犯罪率下降－－－你看买枪买对了吧，继续买。
: “枪越多越安全” pro-gun lobby， NRA 金身不败的名言。
: mass shooting后－－－丫的DEM要禁枪了，还不趁便宜没禁前，再多买点。
: Gun industry 总归是财源滚滚。
: 美国人均一人一枪了（包括婴儿），这显然还远远不够呀。
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r********1
发帖数: 7345 | 9 这个才是重点， 不然， ak47 就和大白菜一样的价钱。
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: 关键是还把中国枪支制造商给禁了，结果这帮人一点竞争压力都没有，卖得暴贵。
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a******c
发帖数: 210 | 10 我就不明白，一年枪支销售才多少钱？整天说军火商控制国会的也真搞笑。这么点钱就
可以控制国会？那国会早就被科技公司控制了。 |
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w*****2
发帖数: 1458 | 11 的确如此。
【在 a******c 的大作中提到】
: 我就不明白，一年枪支销售才多少钱？整天说军火商控制国会的也真搞笑。这么点钱就
: 可以控制国会？那国会早就被科技公司控制了。
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 12 搞笑，你全民缴枪试试？
小地方明显政府以大欺小，军警国民警卫队对付合法公民。恰恰说明跪舔政府都是脑子
进水了。
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 上千的收缴里，有多少就地“反抗暴政”的？一个老太太。
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h******k
发帖数: 15372 | 13 说句良心话，枪的利润比微软和苹果低多了。。。
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: 关键是还把中国枪支制造商给禁了，结果这帮人一点竞争压力都没有，卖得暴贵。
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 14 总算有人说公道话了。最大的两个枪厂股票市值每个才1B，跟硅谷公司比就是小蚂蚁
【在 a******c 的大作中提到】
: 我就不明白，一年枪支销售才多少钱？整天说军火商控制国会的也真搞笑。这么点钱就
: 可以控制国会？那国会早就被科技公司控制了。
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 15 拥枪这个事，要放在特定的文化，历史，法律背景下看。 用中国的文化社会观点来看
米国的这事，自然会得出拥枪很奇葩的结论。
其实拥枪也不是米帝的专利，能比较容易地合法拥枪的国家多了去了。 |
X*******G
发帖数: 14887 | |
j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_
Katrina#Confiscation_of_civilian_firearms
Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police
Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard
soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms.
"No one will be able to be armed," Compass said. "Guns will be taken. Only
law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Seizures were carried out
without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force; one instance
captured on film involved 58‑year‑old New Orleans resident
Patricia Konie. Konie stayed behind, in her well provisioned home, and had
an old revolver for protection. A group of police entered the house, and
when she refused to surrender her revolver, she was tackled and it was
removed by force. Konie's shoulder was fractured, and she was taken into
police custody for failing to surrender her firearm.[87][88]
Angered citizens, backed by the National Rifle Association and other
organizations, filed protests over the constitutionality of such an order
and the difficulty in tracking seizures, as paperwork was rarely filed
during the searches. Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association,
defended the right of affected citizens to retain firearms, saying that, "
What we’ve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the
aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second
Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves." The
searches received little news coverage, though reaction from groups such as
the NRA, the Second Amendment Foundation, and Gun Owners of America was
immediate and heated, and a lawsuit was filed September 22 by the NRA and
SAF on behalf of two firearm owners whose firearms were seized. On September
23, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana issued a
restraining order to bar further firearms confiscations.[87]
After refusing to admit that it had any seized firearms, the city revealed
in mid-March that it did have a cache of some 1000 firearms seized after the
hurricane; this disclosure came after the NRA filed a motion in court to
hold the city in contempt for failure to comply with the U.S. District Court
's earlier order to return all seized firearms. On April 14, 2006, it was
announced that the city will begin to return seized firearms, however as of
early 2008, many firearms were still in police possession, and the matter
was still in court.[87] The matter was finally settled in favor of the NRA
in October 2008. Per the agreement, the city was required to relax the
strict proof of ownership requirements previously used, and was to release
firearms to their owners with an affidavit claiming ownership and a
background check to verify that the owner is legally able to possess a
firearm.[89]
Louisiana legislator Steve Scalise introduced Louisiana House Bill 760,
which would prohibit confiscation of firearms in a state of emergency,
unless the seizure is pursuant to the investigation of a crime, or if the
seizure is necessary to prevent immediate harm to the officer or another
individual. On June 8, 2006, HB 760 was signed into law.[90] 21 other states
joined Louisiana in enacting similar laws. A federal law prohibiting
seizure of lawfully held firearms during an emergency, the Disaster Recovery
Personal Protection Act of 2006, passed in the House with a vote of 322 to
99, and in the Senate by 84-16. The bill was signed into law by President
Bush on October 9, 2006.[91]
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 拥枪派很多誓言蛋蛋誓死捍卫第二修正案。
: 可是Katrina飓风过后，国民警卫队要收缴New Orleans的私枪，还不是乖乖缴了。
: 天灾过后的救援，全世界也只有美国还要担心这个了，够奇葩的。
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r*********e
发帖数: 7733 | 18 奥尔良的左逼立功了，促使保护枪权的新法诞生。无意中给广大枪民做了件好事。
Hurricane_
firearms.
Only
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_
: Katrina#Confiscation_of_civilian_firearms
: Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police
: Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard
: soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms.
: "No one will be able to be armed," Compass said. "Guns will be taken. Only
: law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Seizures were carried out
: without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force; one instance
: captured on film involved 58‑year‑old New Orleans resident
: Patricia Konie. Konie stayed behind, in her well provisioned home, and had
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 19 枪支只占军火里的一小部分。
扯远点。军火商military industry complex确实看不上枪支，人家盯着世界上的热点
地区。没热点也要制造一些。
叙利亚打内战，就猛送军火，至于是不是到ISIS手里，who cares, 能赚钱就行。美国
轰炸ISIS好多月了，炸弹都空仓了。竟然还没毛子两三个星期炸的有效。够奇怪吧。可
炸弹空仓，军火商就高兴了。
这些炸弹和各种武器可都是纳税人的钱买的。GOP心疼税收被黑墨吃了福利，却无视军
火商的油水和浪费。
前总统艾森豪威尔就曾警告过美国民众military industry complex的危害。
【在 a******c 的大作中提到】
: 我就不明白，一年枪支销售才多少钱？整天说军火商控制国会的也真搞笑。这么点钱就
: 可以控制国会？那国会早就被科技公司控制了。
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 20 America's Gun Business, By the Numbers
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/americas-gun-business-n
10 things the gun industry won’t tell you
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/10-things-the-gun-industry-won
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: 总算有人说公道话了。最大的两个枪厂股票市值每个才1B，跟硅谷公司比就是小蚂蚁
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i***a
发帖数: 4718 | 21 宪法第二修正案不是挺牛吗？竟然还要再立法来保护，LOL。
【在 r*********e 的大作中提到】
: 奥尔良的左逼立功了，促使保护枪权的新法诞生。无意中给广大枪民做了件好事。
:
: Hurricane_
: firearms.
: Only
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c***x
发帖数: 1922 | 22 美国是靠民兵获取独立的。英国就是当时的tyranny. 要改第二修正案，得先改美国历
史。
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 拥枪派很多誓言蛋蛋誓死捍卫第二修正案。
: 可是Katrina飓风过后，国民警卫队要收缴New Orleans的私枪，还不是乖乖缴了。
: 天灾过后的救援，全世界也只有美国还要担心这个了，够奇葩的。
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r*********e
发帖数: 7733 | 23 再牛也挡不住左逼瞎搞啊？
这个案子当地左逼政府瞎搞，践踏了宪法，引起反弹，上到法院，最后宪法第二修正案
还是赢了。只是花了不少时间，让左逼得逞了一阵子。
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: 宪法第二修正案不是挺牛吗？竟然还要再立法来保护，LOL。
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s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 24 一年两个billion就操纵美国了，乐死个人。
来，土共派个贪官过来把美国法律掀个个！
【在 i***a 的大作中提到】
: America's Gun Business, By the Numbers
: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/americas-gun-business-n
: 10 things the gun industry won’t tell you
: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/10-things-the-gun-industry-won
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