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发帖数: 38600 | 1 Testing the Rule of Law in the South China Sea
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/testing-the-rule-of-law-in-the-south-china-sea.html
llc CA 6 hours ago
The USA failing to ratify UNCLOS while telling other countries to abide by
UNCLOS tell the world a lot about its approach to international law.
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ERIC WAYNE 6 hours ago
How ironic it is for the US to lecture China to observe the "Law of the Sea"
when it still refuses to sign the Treaty, and has a long history of
vehemently rejecting any international jurisdictions against its interests?
The Editorial is full of factual mistakes or sheer fabrications, which the
NYT often relies upon to serve as the propaganda tools to mislead the world
opinions. Remember your notorious roles in Iraqi War?
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abo is a trusted commenter Paris 4 hours ago
For shame. The country which most ignores international law - that would be
the U.S. - trying to give moral lessons to others.
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Nathan an Expat China 4 hours ago
How can the President keep a straight face in calling for China to follow "
international law" when a key part of US exceptionalism is its resistance to
accepting international law. Much is made of the Law of the Sea Treaty in
this dispute. The US has not ratified and refuses to be bound by this treaty
becasue of concerns it would interfere with US Naval operations and
potentially bind the US to certain sharing of ocean resource allocations.
Its not just UNCLOS the list of international law the US refuses to
recognise is long. In fact, examining the US rejection of international law
is almost an academic cottage industry. Just Google it. Concepts of
international law have always been ephemeral and in most cases absent
certain UN Security Council directives generally unenforceable. So the
practice among "great powers" has been to give a nod to "international law"
but ignore it when it conflicts with their interests. The US is the master
of this approach. Its refusal to recognise the jurisdiction of the
International Criminal Court out of fear -quite rightly- that its officials
and military could be tried and found guilty of war crimes. (And that's
before we even get started on the "illegal" outside of declared conflict
area drone wars resulting in untold collateral deaths.) Yes so by all means
let's continue to theatrically and piously wave the flag of international
law when it is in our interests and toss it in the dustbin when it doesn't.
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John Broussard Louisiana 3 hours ago
This article does not mention that the US never ratified the LOS (Law of the
Sea) treaty itself in 1984. The buildup in the SCS is disturbing but
predictable as the International enforcement regime is compromised by the
absence of the US, a major naval presence, from the treaty. Perhaps this
would be an excellent time to reconsider our position with respect to this
treaty, as military steps will only continue to exacerbate the current tense
situation.
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Paul Cohen is a trusted commenter Hartford CT 3 hours ago
China and the rule of law: The NY Times editorial board applies another
double standard for them versus us. What about the United States honoring
international treaties and the rule of law international and domestic? The
United States has exempted itself from such trivialities. Why should China
not emulate U.S. contempt for both? You need not worry about the U.S. taking
on China in armed conflict. The U.S. only bombs nations that are weak and
defenseless against air assaults. Besides, the U.S. is currently stretched
very thin given our wars of aggression against the Muslim World in
perpetuity and inadequate numbers in the AVF's- a euphemism for a military
based on professional soldiers aka mercenaries as opposed to a citizen's
army. It's about time the Editorial Board begins criticizing U.S. imperial
policy and the failure of using our military power as the primary means to
remake the world in our image.
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Prof.Jai Prakash Sharma is a trusted commenter Jaipur, India. 7 hours ago
Doesn't China's contemptuous reaction and an outright rejection of the Hague
based international tribunal's ruling on the South China Sea dispute
provide enough hints about its official view and approach to the
international law, which otherwise has never been a deterrence to its
expansionist moves and defiant belligerence? Beyond the diktat of law, of
course, if anything could restrain China from going out of bounds is its own
realisation of the growing economic vulnerabilities and the likely
international isolation it might have to confront if it always resorts to
the confrontational course in the international arena. However, there's no
sign of such pragmatic course correction on the part of its governing elite,
as it still sees the world through the power-lenses provided by its Red
Army and built with the military hardware.
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T E Low Kuala Lumpur 6 hours ago
China should approach international law the way the US approaches it -
ignore it.
China should also increase her military abilities. Start by increasing her
atomic warfare abilities and stockpile - 250 nuclear warheads isn't going to
cut it against a warmongering, belligerent and lying nation like the US.
Add another 0 to the end of the number, aim 500 of those weapons at American
allies and proxies around the region, then China and the US can start
talking.
China should also start flying drones armed with kill missiles across the
South China Sea with an explicit order - any country found to be sailing
civilian ships around China's islands without permission are presumed to be
hostile and potential terrorists to China and China can take immediate
action to destroy the ships and their occupants with extreme prejudice.
Follow that up a couple of years later with similar policies towards
military ships and submarines (especially after China has reached the
required level of nuclear weapons stockpile).
The US is a serial international law rule breaker, but presumes to lecture
the Chinese. US citizens call out China by saying two wrongs do not make a
right, but they vote in the same serial law breakers year after year to the
office of POTUS. China needs to stand up for herself, regardless of whether
she gets isolated or not, and tell the US - you want to play red lines, when
I draw mine, try crossing it then. That's the only way to stand up to the
US regime.
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SB San Francisco 6 hours ago
"How China reacts to the sweeping legal defeat over its claims to the South
China Sea will tell the world a lot about its approach to international law"
Thanks for the laugh, NYT! As if we didn't know how they would react to the
inevitable ruling against them.
China's approach to international law is "Might Makes Right". China is
neither Communist or Capitalist, it is a Kratocracy - Government by those
strong and cunning enough to take power.
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Jiaxi Madison, Wi 4 hours ago
What A joke！Is United States natural on this issue? I don't think so. China
has the historical basis to claim those islands. And actually after the WW2
, Japan returned all those islands include Xisha islands and Nansha islands
to China. UK, UA and Russia all agreed at that point. In 1947, China has
published that nine-dash line which claimed the territory, no countries
disputed it. However now China is the second largest economy and many
natural resources were found in this region, suddenly some countries might
be emboldened by the US and try to make an issue out of it. I actually think
that US should be responsible for the tension in that region. The US has
over 500 times of surveillance in that region every year, sometimes even
only 200 kilometers close to Hainan province of China. I am really upset
about that! What even more funny is that the United States didn't even sign
the convention on the law of the sea due to some "security" reasons, but now
it urges China to obey!
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Richard Luettgen is a trusted commenter New Jersey 3 hours ago
Given the inroads China has made over the past generation in its global
influence, it’s hard to imagine that they’ll simply thumb their collective
nose at this decision. But we’d be innocents indeed if we believed that
their practical actions will be immensely affected by a non-Chinese decision
affecting what is still called the “South China Sea”. They regard it as
theirs, they see their interests closely intertwined with hegemony over it,
and they’re not about to roll over and play dead.
But these days China lives or dies by trade, and there can be no question
that it benefits when trading partners are confident that trade routes will
be effectively protected. China has a way to go before earning such
confidence on the high seas and would benefit from a relationship with the U
.S., that has a sterling record in this regard. But, in the end, they’re
not going to remove their men or installations and they won’t simply go
gentle into that good night merely because some international judges told
them to be nice and share.
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Nick Chen Los Angeles 1 hour ago
The US version of "rule of law" has been tested in Nicaragua and has failed
spectacularly.
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Susan Alexandria, VA 4 hours ago
We tend to forget that the United States is not a signatory to U.N.
Convention on the Law of the Sea ... so I am not sure why we are making a
big issue of China not wanting to abid by The Hague's court ruling today.
David Stafford
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j****z
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b********n
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z**********e
发帖数: 22064 | 4 这些英文，一看就是Chinglish。
说不定就是Google翻译的。 |
l****6
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C****2
发帖数: 2904 | 6 现在不是讨论南海仲裁的事儿，土工外交过于强硬，造成很大问题，不守成而是继续沙
比对外扩张的话，中国就会玩儿完。
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: Testing the Rule of Law in the South China Sea
: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/testing-the-rule-of-law-in-the-south-china-sea.html
: llc CA 6 hours ago
: The USA failing to ratify UNCLOS while telling other countries to abide by
: UNCLOS tell the world a lot about its approach to international law.
: Reply 35Recommend
: ERIC WAYNE 6 hours ago
: How ironic it is for the US to lecture China to observe the "Law of the Sea"
: when it still refuses to sign the Treaty, and has a long history of
: vehemently rejecting any international jurisdictions against its interests?
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v***e
发帖数: 2108 | 7 no longer undervalued 的英语水平还没长进啊，你吃狗粮也要要提高素质
就这第一条，人家要骂的也是美国，你哪只眼睛看到人家支持中国？
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 8 中美对抗，骂美国不就是支持中国么。
没学习过辩证逻辑？
【在 v***e 的大作中提到】
: no longer undervalued 的英语水平还没长进啊，你吃狗粮也要要提高素质
: 就这第一条，人家要骂的也是美国，你哪只眼睛看到人家支持中国？
: Sea"
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d*****t
发帖数: 7903 | 9 确实是这样，美国独立知识分子还是有水平的，媒体记者都是拿钱发帖，尤其观察这次
大选，真是充满了偏见。
【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
: 不错，还是有不少能独立思考的美国人民。
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m**********n
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 11 唯一不支持的来自一个烙印
lol
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 11
【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
: 不错，还是有不少能独立思考的美国人民。
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m**********n
发帖数: 27535 | 12 你怎么看出来是美国人的？
【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
: 不错，还是有不少能独立思考的美国人民。
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s********i
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B********n
发帖数: 7009 | 14 威武，给力，有习大大领导，我们水军就放心了
Sea"
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: Testing the Rule of Law in the South China Sea
: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/testing-the-rule-of-law-in-the-south-china-sea.html
: llc CA 6 hours ago
: The USA failing to ratify UNCLOS while telling other countries to abide by
: UNCLOS tell the world a lot about its approach to international law.
: Reply 35Recommend
: ERIC WAYNE 6 hours ago
: How ironic it is for the US to lecture China to observe the "Law of the Sea"
: when it still refuses to sign the Treaty, and has a long history of
: vehemently rejecting any international jurisdictions against its interests?
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v***e
发帖数: 2108 | 15 你要多吃青蒿素
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: 中美对抗，骂美国不就是支持中国么。
: 没学习过辩证逻辑？
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 16 你回答的驴唇不对马嘴么
【在 v***e 的大作中提到】
: 你要多吃青蒿素
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T****2
发帖数: 130 | 17 洋狗不知道纽约时报回贴要审查才显示的。洋爹来了最高指示，洋狗们还不快舔！！
【在 z**********e 的大作中提到】
: 这些英文，一看就是Chinglish。
: 说不定就是Google翻译的。
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 18 确实不能排除大部分或者全部正面评价都是索南的可能性
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 11
【在 T****2 的大作中提到】
: 洋狗不知道纽约时报回贴要审查才显示的。洋爹来了最高指示，洋狗们还不快舔！！
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s*x
发帖数: 8041 | 19 世界舆论不是这么好骗的了，广大西方屁民也开始觉醒了 |
a******1
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r******9
发帖数: 234 | 21 纽约时报的读者都是大学左棍。这些人会如何评论用屁股想都知道。 |
h**c
发帖数: 1979 | 22 The true mettle of a nation is how their diaspora feel about the homeland. I
find that Chinese Americans (ones in the US for many years) are more
ashamed of their homeland than every before. You do not instill pride in
your people by cheating, bullying, and breaking international laws--no
matter how militarily or economically powerful you become. Honor comes from
being just to your people, to all others, and making the world better place.
The fact that the wealthiest Chinese are emigrating in vast numbers (with
many others desperate to do so) speaks to the future prospects of this
important nation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/testing-the-rule-of-law-in-the-south-china-sea.html |
v***e
发帖数: 2108 | 23 这些左派都是在批评美国政府，和支持tg一分钱关系没有
【在 r******9 的大作中提到】
: 纽约时报的读者都是大学左棍。这些人会如何评论用屁股想都知道。
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