b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 1 Portland “Orecrats” Target Income Inequality: Pass Massive 25% Tax on
Corporations Having “Excessive CEO Pay”
https://mishtalk.com/2016/12/07/portland-orecrats-target-income-inequality-
pass-massive-25-tax-on-corporations-having-excessive-ceo-pay/ | l***c
发帖数: 1634 | | s*******g
发帖数: 400 | 3 很好。CEO就应该多交税。本来管人就很爽了，还拿那么多钱，好事都让一个人占了。
即使CEO和普通员工同样PAY， 还会有无数人争着当， 并不会真的降低社会效率。 管
人就是最大的bonus了。 | b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 4 The achilles heel of capitalism is greed. Greed is good insofar as supplying
the requisite motivation to initiate ideas and risk-taking. Its bad when it
reduces the ability of consumers to consume. In the Western economies, the
former has been overtaken by the latter. The biggest problem that Western
economies face is that for the last two generations, costs of living have
risen faster than wage growth There are a number of reasons for this, most
notably the monopolization of most industries that is the inevitable result
of relatively favorable capital accummulation by the large companies
relative to the smaller ones. As monopolization takes hold, the ability of
workers to negotiate with managers becomes weakened. Additionally, if
unionization is weak, the workers have no advocate to negotiate on a level
playing field.
The result of wages rising at a slower pace than costs of livving is a
reduction of consumption. This process may be slowed if there is
availability of loan proceeds that allow a consumer to maintain present
consumption by selling future asset values. In America this process took the
form of the home equity loan. Once the loan availability is exhausted, such
as when real estate values peaked in 2006 and there was no new collateral
asset to back further borrowing, the reduction of consumption continues.
Initially the reduction of consumption takes the form of reducing the growth
of purchases. As time marches on, the total consuption reduces. Falling
consumption translates into reduced production, reduced production
translates into reduced Gross Domestic Product ("GDP"), which if continued
for more than one quarter is called a recession.
Government leaders seek to avoid recession like they avoid the plague,
because re-ecletion is challeneged severely when the economy is doing poorly
. So governments will seek to replace sonsumer spending with government
spending to keep the production facilities working. Positive GDP growth is
then maintained by spending by government on behalf of consumers, with the
consumers lagter paying for this spending even though it was engaged against
their will.
The point comes when the government no longer can borrow the money to pay
for the increased spending, especially if the consumer remains reluctant to
spend for long periods of time. In such case, economic collapse occurs. This
is when Depresssion is achieved. Governments then will try many sleight of
hand types of policies that seek to encourage consumers to spend money
because the government no longer can. This is what has been happening in
Japan for over twenty years, even though the economic problem in Japan was
not due to wages relative to costs as much as it was caused by China taking
a page from Japan's history and replacing it as the global exporter of
choice since it produced for less cost than Japan.
Bottom line is that capitalism can be sustained only if consumers continue
to receive wages that expand at rates greater than the rate of increase in
consumer prices. This is why Central Bank policies on inflation usually seek
a rate of acceptable inflation greater than zero. The presumption is that
in a free economy, wages will move with the same elasticity as prices, and
maybe ewith even larger growth rates over time. This ideal model does not
hold true when the factors of production restrict the ability of workers to
receive pay raises higher than increases in rates of consumer prices. When
workers are forced to rely on the generosity of company managers because
they do not have an advocate like a union representing them collectively,
managers have full reign to pay whatever wage they want, knowing that their
competitors are doing the same thing.
This is why the Oregon pay equality law is a good thing for the long term
growth of a capitalist economy. Because it gives workers a strong advocate
to receive wages that outstrip consumer costs of living. It distributes the
wealth that the workers created more equally across the spectrum of those
who earned the profits, and thus provides the ammunition for consumers to
spend tmarginally greater amounts of miney on consumption. That is good for
the health of capitalism, and is the shot in the arm that the Western
economies need right now.
The smartest thing that companies around the world could do right now would
be to give their employees a 30% increase in wages, and follow that up by
increasing wages by 10% per year for the next four years. Pay for the wage
increases by sellign new shares of stock at the record high prices the stock
market is providing now. The resultant increase in economic activity would
be historic. Companies would more than recoup their wage increases through
higher profitability that comes with the increased sales. And the Western
economies finally would come out of their eight year slumber, with
government budgets returning to balance and even surplus.
Remember that Henry Ford paid his workers more than any of his competitors
paid their workers. He did it because it was good capitalism, insofar as he
created a consumer population that had the money to buy his cars. That
lesson should be at the top of what is taught in today's business schools,
replacing the shareholder value credo. Capitalism does not succeed through
shareholder value or increased productivity, it increases by sprading the
wealth in as many directions as possible, because it is the number of
consumers able to buy marginally greater amounts of goods and services that
determines success in the capitalist business model.
【在 s*******g 的大作中提到】
: 很好。CEO就应该多交税。本来管人就很爽了，还拿那么多钱，好事都让一个人占了。
: 即使CEO和普通员工同样PAY， 还会有无数人争着当， 并不会真的降低社会效率。 管
: 人就是最大的bonus了。
| l***c
发帖数: 1634 | 5 确实。
右逼老是担心大老板没喂饱，就不拉屎给他们吃。
如果这公司是CEO是创业的，高工资多股份也行。
偏偏都是一些没贡献的MBA或富二代, 凭什么拿超级工资
: 很好。CEO就应该多交税。本来管人就很爽了，还拿那么多钱，好事都让一个人
占了。
: 即使CEO和普通员工同样PAY， 还会有无数人争着当， 并不会真的降低社会效率
。 管
: 人就是最大的bonus了。
【在 s*******g 的大作中提到】
: 很好。CEO就应该多交税。本来管人就很爽了，还拿那么多钱，好事都让一个人占了。
: 即使CEO和普通员工同样PAY， 还会有无数人争着当， 并不会真的降低社会效率。 管
: 人就是最大的bonus了。
| D**S
发帖数: 24887 | | m*****n
发帖数: 4015 | 7 总裁都靠股票。 如果是option的话 没有exexcise 没法收税。
[在 beijingren (to thine own self be true) 的大作中提到：]
:Portland “Orecrats” Target Income Inequality: Pass Massive 25% Tax on
:Corporations Having “Excessive CEO Pay”
:https://mishtalk.com/2016/12/07/portland-orecrats-target-income-inequality-
:pass-massive-25-tax-on-corporations-having-excessive-ceo-pay/
:来到这世上，我就没打算活着回去！ | A*******e
发帖数: 2419 | 8 有种永远别变现
inequality-
【在 m*****n 的大作中提到】
: 总裁都靠股票。 如果是option的话 没有exexcise 没法收税。
: [在 beijingren (to thine own self be true) 的大作中提到：]
: :Portland “Orecrats” Target Income Inequality: Pass Massive 25% Tax on
: :Corporations Having “Excessive CEO Pay”
: :https://mishtalk.com/2016/12/07/portland-orecrats-target-income-inequality-
: :pass-massive-25-tax-on-corporations-having-excessive-ceo-pay/
: :来到这世上，我就没打算活着回去！
| m*****n
发帖数: 4015 | 9 You know you can transfer employee stock options to your child or a family
member as gift.
[在 AlphaCode (Alpha) 的大作中提到：]
:有种永远别变现
:inequality- | s*****r
发帖数: 11545 | 10 so there is no gift tax？
option will not expire? | m*****n
发帖数: 4015 | 11 员工stock option 和 股市上买卖的 option 不同。一般 十年才过期。长着呢。
对于gift tax。那你可以选择股价低的时候transfer. 可以省很多税。
[在 scraper (天朝弃民之非洲萤火虫) 的大作中提到：]
:so there is no gift tax？
:option will not expire? |
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