S*******l
发帖数: 4637 | 1 https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/08/02/us/affirmative-action-battle-
has-a-new-focus-asian-americans.html
LexDadBoston
I do alumni interviews for an Ivy League university in my town which is
largely Asian. My experience in interviewing kids for the last decade is
this: high numbers do not mean a student is worthy of admission. I
interviewed one young lady who had high SAT scores, one of the highest GPAs
I had ever seen at the school, and the pre-requisite debate/music/robotics
activities. She would start answering my basic questions and if she
stuttered would start her rehearsed answer again. I realized she was looking
at someone and her dad was sitting there coaching her. The kid lacked
passion about anything. At college, she would have been the kid sitting in
the dorm/library studying 24x7 and doing a parent approved activity.
The next student I interviewed had a .5 lower GPA and much lower SAT scores.
But they had started a student organization and had grown it to other
schools as well. Sitting with that student, I remember thinking "this kid is
going to make a difference in our world".
Give me the kids who are going to make a difference in the world, regardless
of mommy/daddy in the background driving them out of "love". |
E*********9
发帖数: 244 | 2 This comment doesn't mean anything, what was described in it could happen to
any ethnic group.
battle-
GPAs
looking
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: LexDadBoston
: I do alumni interviews for an Ivy League university in my town which is
: largely Asian. My experience in interviewing kids for the last decade is
: this: high numbers do not mean a student is worthy of admission. I
: interviewed one young lady who had high SAT scores, one of the highest GPAs
: I had ever seen at the school, and the pre-requisite debate/music/robotics
: activities. She would start answering my basic questions and if she
: stuttered would start her rehearsed answer again. I realized she was looking
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 3 亚裔小孩至少还有dad坐在她边上指导他，黑人的daddy估计她打出生后就没见过 |
S*******l
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d******r
发帖数: 16947 | 5 这也怪亚裔？ lol
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 亚裔小孩至少还有dad坐在她边上指导他，黑人的daddy估计她打出生后就没见过
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t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 6 说的蛮有道理的， 但是make a difference to the world在这几年里， 但是根据作者
的标准选出来的这些liberals吧中东搞残废了， 把欧洲搞绿了， 把美国差点就推到悬
崖下了。倒是“没什么改变世界能力的， 在父母coach下长大的中国人， 把中国发展
成第二强国了。
battle-
GPAs
looking
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】
: https://mobile.nytimes.com/comments/2017/08/02/us/affirmative-action-battle-
: has-a-new-focus-asian-americans.html
: LexDadBoston
: I do alumni interviews for an Ivy League university in my town which is
: largely Asian. My experience in interviewing kids for the last decade is
: this: high numbers do not mean a student is worthy of admission. I
: interviewed one young lady who had high SAT scores, one of the highest GPAs
: I had ever seen at the school, and the pre-requisite debate/music/robotics
: activities. She would start answering my basic questions and if she
: stuttered would start her rehearsed answer again. I realized she was looking
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 7 别的都不用说，liberal左逼无法回答为什么无数黑人父亲忍痛抛弃自己小天使般的孩
子哈哈哈哈哈
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】
: 说的蛮有道理的， 但是make a difference to the world在这几年里， 但是根据作者
: 的标准选出来的这些liberals吧中东搞残废了， 把欧洲搞绿了， 把美国差点就推到悬
: 崖下了。倒是“没什么改变世界能力的， 在父母coach下长大的中国人， 把中国发展
: 成第二强国了。
:
: battle-
: GPAs
: looking
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 8 伤害个屁。老爹遥控的傻逼被淘汰证明招生的人有常识。 |
D*T
发帖数: 571 | 9 当然了，黑人小孩大多没爹，亚裔小孩大多有个好爹，这也太不公平了！
【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 这也怪亚裔？ lol
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t*c
发帖数: 8291 | 10 左渣们会说那是因为监狱准入没有AA.
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 别的都不用说，liberal左逼无法回答为什么无数黑人父亲忍痛抛弃自己小天使般的孩
: 子哈哈哈哈哈
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 11 怎么没把你给淘汰了哈哈哈哈
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 伤害个屁。老爹遥控的傻逼被淘汰证明招生的人有常识。
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S*******l
发帖数: 4637 | 12 靠，这厮的偏见你当fact来看。他认为是遥控就遥控？小孩儿看看家长要点鼓励不太正
常。
性格不一样，有的偏shy有些紧张就一定是事先排练的？怎么不说后面那个是排练的太
好了，连passion都能装出来。
几分钟的面试能有多深入了解面前的孩子，凭什么丫的个人偏见就有那么大power左右
人的人生？
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 伤害个屁。老爹遥控的傻逼被淘汰证明招生的人有常识。
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 13 你哈个鸡八。你丫还是带着你的劣质后代滚回憋国遥控起来，搞不好可以勉强上个懒灵
妓校。
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 怎么没把你给淘汰了哈哈哈哈
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m***a
发帖数: 13878 | 14 这个三哥说得不错
M SingerAtlanta, GA
Fascinating that the go-to defense of Affirmative Action in light of the
obvious handicap against Asian applicants is a racist scree about how these
applicants' Asian-ness makes them "less well rounded" and "less likely to
make a difference in the world." Do commenters not realize that in saying
these things, they are applying a lower moral worth Asians based on their
race, making the commenters racist?
But these racist justifications of Affirmative Action aren't even the
biggest problem, because these justifications are made after-the-fact. The
truth is that admissions officers and HR departments aren't even thinking
about how well-rounded or creative applicants are. They are looking at
scores, and sorting those scores based on racial quotas. Which is illegal,
as the Supreme Court has ruled over and over again.
So this is the real problem with Affirmative Action; like Communism, the
ideal of the system is rendered largely irrelevant by the dysfunctional
reality. In Communist countries, the ideal of "we'll share everything," is
always quickly belied by the sad reality that government officials steal
everything, leaving 90% of the population in subsistence. In the case of
Affirmative Action, the ideal of "holistic admissions" is completely belied
by the fact admissions officers are actually just filling racial quotas. |
D*T
发帖数: 571 | 15 高贵的白人们总感觉自己有洞悉一些的眼光和悲天悯人的情怀，其实就是一群傻逼
我再说一遍，不用买白人的帐，美国这个社会虽然是白人主导，但是各个地方还是讲规
矩的，你看谁不顺眼你就通过规矩弄他，管他是白人还是黑人
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】
: 靠，这厮的偏见你当fact来看。他认为是遥控就遥控？小孩儿看看家长要点鼓励不太正
: 常。
: 性格不一样，有的偏shy有些紧张就一定是事先排练的？怎么不说后面那个是排练的太
: 好了，连passion都能装出来。
: 几分钟的面试能有多深入了解面前的孩子，凭什么丫的个人偏见就有那么大power左右
: 人的人生？
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 16 过了14岁还会和爹在一块混的teens基本都是无卵的纯傻逼。
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】
: 靠，这厮的偏见你当fact来看。他认为是遥控就遥控？小孩儿看看家长要点鼓励不太正
: 常。
: 性格不一样，有的偏shy有些紧张就一定是事先排练的？怎么不说后面那个是排练的太
: 好了，连passion都能装出来。
: 几分钟的面试能有多深入了解面前的孩子，凭什么丫的个人偏见就有那么大power左右
: 人的人生？
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h******i
发帖数: 21077 | 17 就凭三哥这句发言，偶从此支持印度三哥，哈哈哈
又反共，又反AA，有理有利有节还会VPN，三哥好！
these
【在 m***a 的大作中提到】
: 这个三哥说得不错
: M SingerAtlanta, GA
: Fascinating that the go-to defense of Affirmative Action in light of the
: obvious handicap against Asian applicants is a racist scree about how these
: applicants' Asian-ness makes them "less well rounded" and "less likely to
: make a difference in the world." Do commenters not realize that in saying
: these things, they are applying a lower moral worth Asians based on their
: race, making the commenters racist?
: But these racist justifications of Affirmative Action aren't even the
: biggest problem, because these justifications are made after-the-fact. The
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 18 看出来你没爹了，你这样的最好别有后代，有也是给美国社会增添负担，怪不得你支持
民主党，你的子女将来都要人伺候着，因为都是弱智，生活不能自理
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 你哈个鸡八。你丫还是带着你的劣质后代滚回憋国遥控起来，搞不好可以勉强上个懒灵
: 妓校。
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s**r
发帖数: 685 | 19 Good point. Could you reply that top comment with your observations?
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】
: 说的蛮有道理的， 但是make a difference to the world在这几年里， 但是根据作者
: 的标准选出来的这些liberals吧中东搞残废了， 把欧洲搞绿了， 把美国差点就推到悬
: 崖下了。倒是“没什么改变世界能力的， 在父母coach下长大的中国人， 把中国发展
: 成第二强国了。
:
: battle-
: GPAs
: looking
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w*p
发帖数: 16484 | 20 我觉得这个的角度很好，不是所有的Asian kids都一样，应该完全除去录取过程中的种
族因素----当然这个不可能发生，光看名字就能看出来，更不用说面试了。
As an Asian American, I find this to be a really offensive comment. You're
perpetuating the stereotype that all qualified Asian students are the same,
and that every one of us is subjected to the same "tiger mom" experience.
There are plenty of Asian kids who grow up poor and don't have great access
to Kumon, piano lessons, etc. These kids are also getting discriminated
against as a result of this common stereotype, and that is really unfair.
There are also plenty of Asian kids who do grow up with access to high
quality education, but who also participate in sports, give back to their
community, etc. These kids are also getting discriminated against. Also
unfair.
I'm all for student body diversity, and of course you don't want a student
body that has 50% Asians who all play the violin and scored 1600 on SATs (
citing a common stereotype here).
The point, based on the information put forth in this article and how I
interpreted it, seems to be that students are getting discriminated against
based solely on race - despite the fact that they could have very diverse
backgrounds. That, to me, is the real problem. |
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S*******l
发帖数: 4637 | 21 对啊。这孩子说的好。
最shock的，或者不吃惊的就是排第一的评论被推到第一。亚裔需要自己的Thurgood
Marshall, 去通过法律推翻AA.
,
access
【在 w*p 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这个的角度很好，不是所有的Asian kids都一样，应该完全除去录取过程中的种
: 族因素----当然这个不可能发生，光看名字就能看出来，更不用说面试了。
: As an Asian American, I find this to be a really offensive comment. You're
: perpetuating the stereotype that all qualified Asian students are the same,
: and that every one of us is subjected to the same "tiger mom" experience.
: There are plenty of Asian kids who grow up poor and don't have great access
: to Kumon, piano lessons, etc. These kids are also getting discriminated
: against as a result of this common stereotype, and that is really unfair.
: There are also plenty of Asian kids who do grow up with access to high
: quality education, but who also participate in sports, give back to their
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 22 你傻逼估计上大学是你爹抱着去的。 这种废物只能当个猥琐的疮轮。
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 看出来你没爹了，你这样的最好别有后代，有也是给美国社会增添负担，怪不得你支持
: 民主党，你的子女将来都要人伺候着，因为都是弱智，生活不能自理
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t******o
发帖数: 3223 | 23 傻逼白人太多了，否则白人自己搞这么多法律规则干什么？还不就是治傻逼白人的？
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 高贵的白人们总感觉自己有洞悉一些的眼光和悲天悯人的情怀，其实就是一群傻逼
: 我再说一遍，不用买白人的帐，美国这个社会虽然是白人主导，但是各个地方还是讲规
: 矩的，你看谁不顺眼你就通过规矩弄他，管他是白人还是黑人
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 24 查到你了，uiuc的
你没爹，你弱智的孩子很快就要没爹了
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 你傻逼估计上大学是你爹抱着去的。 这种废物只能当个猥琐的疮轮。
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 25 你mlgb发表了多少侮辱美国总统的言论？我把你的言论和你的名字发给三个uiuc的支持
共和党的教授，你学位就没了，你信不信？
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 你傻逼估计上大学是你爹抱着去的。 这种废物只能当个猥琐的疮轮。
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k******7
发帖数: 521 | 26 [在 DGT (Don\'t Go There) 的大作中提到：]
:看出来你没爹了，你这样的最好别有后代，有也是给美国社会增添负担，怪不得你支
持民主党，你的子女将来都要人伺候着，因为都是弱智，生活不能自理
他就是个基佬 木有子女 |
s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 27 内向可以有，shy，没自信是劣质基因被高压家教伪装成优秀的马脚。
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】
: 靠，这厮的偏见你当fact来看。他认为是遥控就遥控？小孩儿看看家长要点鼓励不太正
: 常。
: 性格不一样，有的偏shy有些紧张就一定是事先排练的？怎么不说后面那个是排练的太
: 好了，连passion都能装出来。
: 几分钟的面试能有多深入了解面前的孩子，凭什么丫的个人偏见就有那么大power左右
: 人的人生？
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 28 病的不轻。
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 你mlgb发表了多少侮辱美国总统的言论？我把你的言论和你的名字发给三个uiuc的支持
: 共和党的教授，你学位就没了，你信不信？
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Y**C
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Y**C
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k******7
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 32 靠，又来了个从小被爹抓鸡八有阴影的贱逼。
【在 k******7 的大作中提到】
: [在 DGT (Don\'t Go There) 的大作中提到：]
: :看出来你没爹了，你这样的最好别有后代，有也是给美国社会增添负担，怪不得你支
: 持民主党，你的子女将来都要人伺候着，因为都是弱智，生活不能自理
: 他就是个基佬 木有子女
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D*T
发帖数: 571 | 33 别害怕啊，我就问你，我把你侮辱现任美国总统的言论（mitbbs截图），以及你的名字
和你毕业年份院系，发给uiuc几个懂中文支持trump的教授，其中有一位还是dean，你
说uiuc能不能撤了你的学位？
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 病的不轻。
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 34 LOL，你丫廊坊的。
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 查到你了，uiuc的
: 你没爹，你弱智的孩子很快就要没爹了
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 35 你丫床逼智商太低，还撤学位呢，笑死。
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 别害怕啊，我就问你，我把你侮辱现任美国总统的言论（mitbbs截图），以及你的名字
: 和你毕业年份院系，发给uiuc几个懂中文支持trump的教授，其中有一位还是dean，你
: 说uiuc能不能撤了你的学位？
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T***m
发帖数: 386 | 36 支持你发，搞死这个华人的傻逼败类
【在 D*T 的大作中提到】
: 别害怕啊，我就问你，我把你侮辱现任美国总统的言论（mitbbs截图），以及你的名字
: 和你毕业年份院系，发给uiuc几个懂中文支持trump的教授，其中有一位还是dean，你
: 说uiuc能不能撤了你的学位？
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | 37 我也支持这个傻逼发，不发没鸡八。
【在 T***m 的大作中提到】
: 支持你发，搞死这个华人的傻逼败类
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