w********2
发帖数: 632 | 1 WTO does not allow government leading industrial policies. No matter how
unfair it is, it is a basic rule of WTO. As long as China wants to get trade
benefits from the WTO system, China has to play by the WTO rules.
However, China may very possibly retreat from WTO, because CCP does not want
to lose it control over China's society. So China is doomed as long as CCP
is in power. Simple enough! |
c****3
发帖数: 6038 | |
b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 3 一帮鹦鹉学舌一样的张嘴闭嘴说中国不守规则，倒是给出例子啊
真想搞明白的去查查，信息时代了，别天天听个猫叫就跟着喵喵。
WTO仲裁还是叫啥的，入世这N年，貌似17？
中国~40起；
美国~80起；
然后，看看中国输了多少个，美国输了多少个。
再看看中国输了的认账几个，美国认账几个。
最可笑的一例，中国当年发现有搞整车配件拼车的，于是把配件关税提高到整车水平。
结果，被告了。
结果，输了。
结果，傻叉了自己认了。
结果，便宜了一帮偷鸡取窍的货。
再看看大好河山灯塔体制、WTO在内世界秩序的建立者，俺们大美国。。。
脖子还是杠杠的硬滴。
老子的规矩老子做的庄，老子不鸟你就是不鸟你。
痛快~~~~~~~~~~~
这是说国家之间、政府行为。
至于说偷鸡取窍，偷技术的到处都是。
俺一个小师弟，reverse engineer了一个东东，国内搞得火的不行。出国参展被人家砸
了台子满世界追打。笑死俺们一干人了。
问题是，这傻叉自个赚钱赚的哗哗的，跟政府毛关系没有。
你要说有，那为啥当年美国人偷英国纺织技术，没见大英帝国派军舰来叫板美国政府呢
？ |
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 4 Japan's government led industrial policy making was the major reason that US
broke Japan's economy into pieces in 1980s.
Now Japan does not have strong stance in Aerospace and other advanced
industries. |
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 5 US has no pain during the trade war. US only has gain in trade war. China
brags it retaliation's effects too much.
Poor mainland Chinese people, no future in the current and the next
generation. |
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 6 Many people talk here about trade war do not know WTO at all. Annoying. |
t**x
发帖数: 20965 | 7 你这个跟放屁差不多。
虽然洋文， 还是放屁。 共产党领导的东西多了， 也不是一天两天的， 而且wto中美
都不喜欢， 完蛋最好。 你以为中国在乎？
trade
want
CCP
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: WTO does not allow government leading industrial policies. No matter how
: unfair it is, it is a basic rule of WTO. As long as China wants to get trade
: benefits from the WTO system, China has to play by the WTO rules.
: However, China may very possibly retreat from WTO, because CCP does not want
: to lose it control over China's society. So China is doomed as long as CCP
: is in power. Simple enough!
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 8 Do you know why I write in English? It is easier to tell who you are! A 50
cents or some real overseas Chinese scholars or students. LOL.
【在 t**x 的大作中提到】
: 你这个跟放屁差不多。
: 虽然洋文， 还是放屁。 共产党领导的东西多了， 也不是一天两天的， 而且wto中美
: 都不喜欢， 完蛋最好。 你以为中国在乎？
:
: trade
: want
: CCP
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s******r
发帖数: 5309 | |
r**o
发帖数: 4614 | 10 不看新闻吗？ 床铺抱怨WTO给中国发展中国家待遇。
在WTO框架下，发展中国家可以补贴工业的，还可以设立关税壁垒保护本国工业。
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Many people talk here about trade war do not know WTO at all. Annoying.
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 11 In the year of 2000, China was considered a developing country, but only has
5 years gratitude period. Later western media praise China No. 2 in the
world, mainly for this reason: China is not a developing country anymore,
open your financial and high-tech industry markets.
【在 r**o 的大作中提到】
: 不看新闻吗？ 床铺抱怨WTO给中国发展中国家待遇。
: 在WTO框架下，发展中国家可以补贴工业的，还可以设立关税壁垒保护本国工业。
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r**o
发帖数: 4614 | 12 发展中国家有个毛毕业期。 8000美刀的人均gdp连世界平均线都没赶上。韩国2万美刀
的人均gdp还自称发展中国家，利用wto规则给美国汽车限额了， 前几天才开了加5万辆
的口子。
has
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: In the year of 2000, China was considered a developing country, but only has
: 5 years gratitude period. Later western media praise China No. 2 in the
: world, mainly for this reason: China is not a developing country anymore,
: open your financial and high-tech industry markets.
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G***O
发帖数: 223 | 13 楼主不是扯淡吗？
美国给全球进口美国的钢铝加关税， 叫不叫 “government leading industrial
policies”？ 干这事的时候就不提WTO了？ |
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 14 Are you joking? This is because China cannot keep its promise. US is
retaliating. This is trade war, not normal trading. Understand? OK?
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 楼主不是扯淡吗？
: 美国给全球进口美国的钢铝加关税， 叫不叫 “government leading industrial
: policies”？ 干这事的时候就不提WTO了？
|
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 15 You can read related articles around the year 2000. Some mentioned certain
details about the conditions for China to enter WTO. Most of the grace
periods are within 5-10 years. Different industries have different grace
period.
【在 r**o 的大作中提到】
: 发展中国家有个毛毕业期。 8000美刀的人均gdp连世界平均线都没赶上。韩国2万美刀
: 的人均gdp还自称发展中国家，利用wto规则给美国汽车限额了， 前几天才开了加5万辆
: 的口子。
:
: has
|
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 16 South Korea is one of the closest US's allies. It had different terms
entering WTO than China. Simple as that.
【在 r**o 的大作中提到】
: 发展中国家有个毛毕业期。 8000美刀的人均gdp连世界平均线都没赶上。韩国2万美刀
: 的人均gdp还自称发展中国家，利用wto规则给美国汽车限额了， 前几天才开了加5万辆
: 的口子。
:
: has
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G***O
发帖数: 223 | 17 啥意思？
打trade war 时候就可以不遵守WTO规则了？ 那么中国反制出台以后， 美国为什么要
去WTO告状啊?
好好看看给钢铝加关税的国家名单。 除了中国还有很多国家， 难道其他国家也都是没
有 keep its promise？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: Are you joking? This is because China cannot keep its promise. US is
: retaliating. This is trade war, not normal trading. Understand? OK?
|
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 18 It is very simple. If you don't fairplay, don't expect others to.
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 啥意思？
: 打trade war 时候就可以不遵守WTO规则了？ 那么中国反制出台以后， 美国为什么要
: 去WTO告状啊?
: 好好看看给钢铝加关税的国家名单。 除了中国还有很多国家， 难道其他国家也都是没
: 有 keep its promise？
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 19 See what other countries do? They comply to US's requirement asap. See what
China is doing, blahblahblah.
WTO without US is not WTO anymore. The whole WTO relies on US to open its
market. You can say WTO is US led or domain system. You can choose to enter
or not.
In the year 2000, there were a lot of debate whether China should enter WTO
or not. Because entering WTO means a lot sacrifice, now it is time to pay.
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 啥意思？
: 打trade war 时候就可以不遵守WTO规则了？ 那么中国反制出台以后， 美国为什么要
: 去WTO告状啊?
: 好好看看给钢铝加关税的国家名单。 除了中国还有很多国家， 难道其他国家也都是没
: 有 keep its promise？
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G***O
发帖数: 223 | 20 钢铝加关税制裁了那么多的国家， 都是没有fairplay？ 合着全世界就美国一家是
FairPlay？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: It is very simple. If you don't fairplay, don't expect others to.
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 21 As I explain in the last post, WTO is US domain, like it or not.
Are these countries doing fair play? Fine. Give up government support,
enforce lab law and environmental protection,etc. Then how the price goes.
Will they do so? No. So is it fair play? LOL.
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 钢铝加关税制裁了那么多的国家， 都是没有fairplay？ 合着全世界就美国一家是
: FairPlay？
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s*******u
发帖数: 9508 | 22 米帝： fairplay由我来定义！你们，听着，就行了。。。
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 钢铝加关税制裁了那么多的国家， 都是没有fairplay？ 合着全世界就美国一家是
: FairPlay？
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 23 So what. This is life. You don't want to play by WTO's rule, you can leave
anytime. WTO's rules are most determined by US policy makers. Because US
contributes mostly to this system. This is core idea of the fair play.
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】
: 米帝： fairplay由我来定义！你们，听着，就行了。。。
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s*******u
发帖数: 9508 | 24 有种，把你丫说的，让美国国务院和商务部在全球范围内确认一下？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: So what. This is life. You don't want to play by WTO's rule, you can leave
: anytime. WTO's rules are most determined by US policy makers. Because US
: contributes mostly to this system. This is core idea of the fair play.
|
G***O
发帖数: 223 | 25 那就很简单啊。
既然美国dominate WTO. 为啥不直接在WTO框架内解决问题你？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: So what. This is life. You don't want to play by WTO's rule, you can leave
: anytime. WTO's rules are most determined by US policy makers. Because US
: contributes mostly to this system. This is core idea of the fair play.
|
l*****i
发帖数: 20533 | 26 现在是美国嚷嚷着要退出WTO，而中国则是高喊保卫WTO秩序。所以就别扯淡了。 |
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 27 Once US retreat from WTO, WTO is nothing.
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 那就很简单啊。
: 既然美国dominate WTO. 为啥不直接在WTO框架内解决问题你？
|
w********2
发帖数: 632 | 28 Only if CCP allows to broadcast documentaries of Tianmen Square massacre.
LOL.
【在 s*******u 的大作中提到】
: 有种，把你丫说的，让美国国务院和商务部在全球范围内确认一下？
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 29 China is making money from WTO and not keep its promises. US says, if you
don't keep your promises,then what is the point of WTO? It is that simple.
【在 l*****i 的大作中提到】
: 现在是美国嚷嚷着要退出WTO，而中国则是高喊保卫WTO秩序。所以就别扯淡了。
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 30 Trump is doing that. You don't read enough.
【在 G***O 的大作中提到】
: 那就很简单啊。
: 既然美国dominate WTO. 为啥不直接在WTO框架内解决问题你？
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w********2
发帖数: 632 | 31 SO ALL IN ALL, WTO IS US'S TOOL FOR WORLD ORDER AFTER WW2.CHINA BEGS TO
ENTER THIS FRAMEWORK, NOW WANTS TO BREAK IT. |
m**********s
发帖数: 518 | 32 上世纪克林顿政府好像搞过信息高速公路计划？
现在德国再搞工业化4.0？
不知道这些是不是政府主导的？懂的给说说呗 |
r**o
发帖数: 4614 | 33 难道过5到10年中国就是发达国家了？ 笑话。 发展中国家汽车关税壁垒都是在WTO内合
法的。 川
普如果不服，去打官司好了。 为啥要抛开WTO单干？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: You can read related articles around the year 2000. Some mentioned certain
: details about the conditions for China to enter WTO. Most of the grace
: periods are within 5-10 years. Different industries have different grace
: period.
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r**o
发帖数: 4614 | 34 你不知道韩国加入WTO 2年后美国就对韩国汽车发动超级301条款？ 美国2年就忍不住翻
脸了？
【在 w********2 的大作中提到】
: South Korea is one of the closest US's allies. It had different terms
: entering WTO than China. Simple as that.
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