d*b
发帖数: 1 | 1 Mnuchin Says U.S., China in ‘Very Good Conversation’ on Trade
Bloomberg News
May 3, 2018, 8:05 AM PDT Updated on May 3, 2018, 6:03 PM PDT
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the U.S. and China are having a “
very good conversation,” as a second day of negotiations over the two
nations’ trading relationship got under way in Beijing.
很好的会谈”，这是美国财政部长steven 在谈判进入第二天在北京说的。
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer
and White House adviser Peter Navarro, who are also on the U.S. delegation,
declined to comment to reporters when leaving their hotel. A White House
official said late Thursday that the atmosphere was “fairly positive” but
the real test will be China’s ability to deliver on its promises of
economic change.
商业部长，贸易代表，白宫顾问，都参与了谈判，但在离开酒店（去谈判会场）时没有
发表评论。白宫官员星期四（今天）晚些时候说：“谈判的气氛相当正面”，但实质是
中国如何有效的实现其在经济改变方面的承诺/on its promises of economic change.
The U.S. has turned over to China a “detailed list of asks,” Mark Calabria
, chief economist to U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, said during an event in
Washington. While he declined to give specifics, he said the U.S. wants
China to lower its tariff rates to match U.S. levies, in a move that could
boost exports of American goods to the world’s No. 2 economy.
美国副总统的首席经济顾问Mark在华盛顿DC说， 美国给中国提交了一份详细备询清单
，但没有透露具体内容。他说，美国要中国降低关税到美国的水平，这样可以促进美国
产品对中国这个世界第二大经济体的出口。
“What I heard from the first day, and again they’ve been there for a full
day of negotiations, has been fairly positive,” Calabria said. “The
difficulty will always be that we will most of the time hear pretty positive
things from China and the question is whether they will actually do them.
So that’s going to be the tough part.”
副总统的经济顾问说，“我听到的消息是，第一天的一整天/full day谈判，相当的正
面/fairly positive”。 他同时说：“最麻烦的永远是我们经常听到的是中国说得好
听，但问题是他们/中国到底最终/actually做不做。这次是最麻烦的部分。
His comments are the first public update on the progress of closed-door
discussions between President Donald Trump’s economic team and officials in
Beijing that began Thursday and are scheduled to run through Friday. China
’s largest media outlets have been ordered to refrain from reporting any
material beyond official press releases related to the talks, according to
people familiar with the matter.
Mnuchin arrives with his delegation after a meeting with Chinese officials
in Beijing on May 3.
The U.S. has tempered expectations of a major breakthrough from the
discussions, which are expected to focus on U.S. concerns over China’s
state-driven economy, forced technology transfers and America’s widening
trade deficit with China. Underscoring the friction, a U.S. report released
Thursday showed the trade gap with China surged by 16 percent to more than $
91 billion in the first quarter of this year.
China’s government won’t accept any U.S. preconditions for negotiations
such as abandoning its long-term advanced manufacturing ambitions or
narrowing the trade gap by $100 billion, a senior Chinese government
official, who asked not to be named, said late Wednesday.
The S&P 500 Index fell 0.2 percent Thursday as investors digested mixed
earnings, while the Dow Jones Industrial Index was little changed. Hong Kong
’s Hang Seng Index dropped 1.3 percent last session amid uncertainty over
the U.S.-China talks.
Few Details
No details of any planned press conferences have been given by either side,
and analysts aren’t optimistic about potential outcomes beyond the sides
possibly delaying on the threat of tit-for-tat tariffs.
“Our expectations are low. The U.S. negotiating position is unclear --
indeed it’s not even clear if the U.S. representatives have a unified view
on what they want to achieve,” according to Tom Orlik, chief economist at
Bloomberg Economics. “The Chinese side has already made concessions and won
’t rush to make more. The past few weeks have shown that markets can be
roiled by tariff chatter, so that’s certainly a possibility in the next
couple of days.”
The meetings are an opportunity for the sides to exchange their views after
the official channel for U.S.-China high-level economic talks was suspended
last year.
“I’m very optimistic that what we will hear from this week is a lot of
very nice sounding promises and commitments but we have to be diligent about
making sure that those nice sounding promises and commitments are actually
met. And that, only time will tell,” Calabria said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-03/trump-team-wraps-up-day-one-of-china-talks-to-defuse-trade-spat |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | |
P**T
发帖数: 2274 | 4 Mnuchin找个台阶下，其它两个极端反华鹰派肯定不爽
如果不找台阶下的话，股市马上就要不行了 |
d*b
发帖数: 1 | 5 你不光英语很差，你的智商没有K-9的狗强。 这么明显的的东西你看不懂？ 难怪连什
么是under value 都搞不明白。
你还是别成天丢人，恶心人了好不好！
【在 b********n 的大作中提到】
: 没一个字能说明中国怂了，是你怂了吧。
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P**T
发帖数: 2274 | 6 Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer
and White House adviser Peter Navarro, who are also on the U.S. delegation,
declined to comment to reporters when leaving their hotel. A White House
official said late Thursday that the atmosphere was “fairly positive” but
the real test will be China’s ability to deliver on its promises of
economic change.
看看这段，Lighthizer和Navarro明显心里不爽
土工把话搁在那了，之前承诺的开放市场已经做到了，要参与有你一份，再叨唠就滚蛋
要我放弃中国制造2025那是做白日梦
【在 d*b 的大作中提到】
: 你不光英语很差，你的智商没有K-9的狗强。 这么明显的的东西你看不懂？ 难怪连什
: 么是under value 都搞不明白。
: 你还是别成天丢人，恶心人了好不好！
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 7 你英语不好
--老将
Lighthizer
delegation,
but
【在 P**T 的大作中提到】
: Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer
: and White House adviser Peter Navarro, who are also on the U.S. delegation,
: declined to comment to reporters when leaving their hotel. A White House
: official said late Thursday that the atmosphere was “fairly positive” but
: the real test will be China’s ability to deliver on its promises of
: economic change.
: 看看这段，Lighthizer和Navarro明显心里不爽
: 土工把话搁在那了，之前承诺的开放市场已经做到了，要参与有你一份，再叨唠就滚蛋
: 要我放弃中国制造2025那是做白日梦
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n*******g
发帖数: 4462 | 8 尼玛没见过土鳖官僚打官腔
官腔都挑不出啥错来，还很正面
LOL |
d*b
发帖数: 1 | 9 我告诉你们，上面那谁说了， 共产党太狡猾了！
美国其实也明白，而且从新闻看，谈判代表直接和华盛顿随时沟通。 问题人家也看得
很明白，就是“中国态度诚恳，积极配合，啥都答应，但怎么落实，美国人头疼”。
可中国的策略就是：好话说尽，困难说透，态度积极，胸部拍响，让直接谈判的几位洋
大人非常感动。但消息传回华盛顿后，幕僚们担心的是落实。
现在看来，共产党的忽悠能力不是盖的！明显是忽悠，啥都答应，拖，走一步看一步。 |
a******g
发帖数: 13519 | 10 怂个卵！我鳖压根就没想给那7个傻逼好脸色，连晚饭都不请吃，7个傻逼只好回使馆吃
热狗。老将别急着舔屁眼，缓缓，先吃口屎再说。 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 11
【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 怂个卵！我鳖压根就没想给那7个傻逼好脸色，连晚饭都不请吃，7个傻逼只好回使馆吃
: 热狗。老将别急着舔屁眼，缓缓，先吃口屎再说。
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d*b
发帖数: 1 | 12 你知道该毛！你今天又捏了一个谈判现场刘鹤笑的帖子，大家都看见了。 你这傻逼五
毛，除了说谎，还是说谎。 多少年都是如此，彻头彻尾的无耻之徒。
请问，你什么时候说话能对得起你的良心？
【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 怂个卵！我鳖压根就没想给那7个傻逼好脸色，连晚饭都不请吃，7个傻逼只好回使馆吃
: 热狗。老将别急着舔屁眼，缓缓，先吃口屎再说。
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d*b
发帖数: 1 | 13 还有，今天一早也就是中国昨天晚上五毛翻墙过来发了一个“中国不管饭”的帖子，装
显中国“没有怂，连饭都没有管”。 就已经透露出信号：中国怂了。
麻痹的，这样的谈判，这等要命，要中国回到石器时代的谈判，弄人到北京了还“不管
饭”？你们tmd真以为共产党和你们这帮傻逼五毛一样弱智？
别扯鸡巴蛋了！ 这时候，中南海巴不得把这几位实权大员当爷爷伺候呢！ |
n*******g
发帖数: 4462 | 14 麻痹直接把土鳖打回石器时代不就完事了？谈个鸡巴毛啊
：还有，今天一早也就是中国昨天晚上五毛翻墙过来发了一个“中国不管饭”的帖子，
装显中国“没有怂，连饭都没有管”。 就已经透露出信号：中国怂了。
： |
h****0
发帖数: 485 | 15 这哪是是怂，根本就是tg根本就是敷衍下。都是些没实际承诺的口号。
我每次回国跟国内人打交道，发现他们这点最牛逼了：谈的时候如沐春风，谈完了什么
都不认账。 |
d*b
发帖数: 1 | 16 美国人不是心底善良嘛，怕把中国打回石器时代误伤了满中国的带路党嘛！
【在 n*******g 的大作中提到】
: 麻痹直接把土鳖打回石器时代不就完事了？谈个鸡巴毛啊
:
: ：还有，今天一早也就是中国昨天晚上五毛翻墙过来发了一个“中国不管饭”的帖子，
: 装显中国“没有怂，连饭都没有管”。 就已经透露出信号：中国怂了。
: ：
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o*****p
发帖数: 2977 | 17 美国代表团离开前跑到媒体那里放狠话的时候我有点预料到这个结果。
中国这次的确准备比较大的开放。美国知道这个，所以想表现成中国在美国的压力下
让步的情节。
只要是在自己的控制和节奏内，让步不是坏事。尤其是中国要努力的把自己的利益和
美国更深的纠缠在一起。
现在土共做事一般属于保守的量力而行。要是双方都满意，其实对中国是好事。 |
m**********s
发帖数: 518 | 18 产党以拖待变，说不定床巨巨被弹劾了，谈个毛线，让步给一个弹劾下台的总统那成了
全人类的笑柄 |
b****n
发帖数: 6896 | 19 不是不认帐。是谈话及其正面积极，谈完了突然发现我想要的屁都没有一个。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 这哪是是怂，根本就是tg根本就是敷衍下。都是些没实际承诺的口号。
: 我每次回国跟国内人打交道，发现他们这点最牛逼了：谈的时候如沐春风，谈完了什么
: 都不认账。
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d*b
发帖数: 1 | 20 这就是问题的核心和实质！
中国其实早就华丽转身，改变策略，压根不说“贸易战”了，说是 “磨擦”了。就是
最后在反复质疑和算账后，发现压根打不起这没有掂量好轻重的贸易战成本。把民意煽
乎起来后，发现帐没有算好，把美国的决心没有猜对。这不，最后先自己降温怂了，赶
紧祈求谈判。
而随后美国做了中兴，问罪华为，箭指联想后，发现大事不妙，身段越来越软。现在不
光连国内评论全封了，任何消息只有新华社才能发表，全国哑然失声，小心谨慎的样子
比新过门的小媳妇还可笑。
至于弱智五毛，就更象五头苍蝇一样瞎装逼扯蛋罢了。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 这哪是是怂，根本就是tg根本就是敷衍下。都是些没实际承诺的口号。
: 我每次回国跟国内人打交道，发现他们这点最牛逼了：谈的时候如沐春风，谈完了什么
: 都不认账。
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d*b
发帖数: 1 | 21 该让的肯定让了，这时候不让什么时候让？ 该答应的肯定都答应了，问题是答应了的
怎么落实洋人就弄不明白了, 也没发弄明白。
【在 m**********s 的大作中提到】
: 产党以拖待变，说不定床巨巨被弹劾了，谈个毛线，让步给一个弹劾下台的总统那成了
: 全人类的笑柄
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q****5
发帖数: 1660 | 22 这TM就叫做意淫。
妈的洋啊Q功力挺深啊
Lighthizer
,
【在 d*b 的大作中提到】
: Mnuchin Says U.S., China in ‘Very Good Conversation’ on Trade
: Bloomberg News
: May 3, 2018, 8:05 AM PDT Updated on May 3, 2018, 6:03 PM PDT
: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the U.S. and China are having a “
: very good conversation,” as a second day of negotiations over the two
: nations’ trading relationship got under way in Beijing.
: 很好的会谈”，这是美国财政部长steven 在谈判进入第二天在北京说的。
: Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer
: and White House adviser Peter Navarro, who are also on the U.S. delegation,
: declined to comment to reporters when leaving their hotel. A White House
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d*b
发帖数: 1 | 23 人家怎么就意淫了？ 人家是坐在那里谈判的美方代表，人说的不对你说的对？
【在 q****5 的大作中提到】
: 这TM就叫做意淫。
: 妈的洋啊Q功力挺深啊
:
: Lighthizer
: ,
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