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g**********1
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How a black man ‘outsmarted’ a neo-Nazi group — and became their new
leader
One of the largest and oldest neo-Nazi groups in the United States appears
to have an unlikely new leader: James Stern, a black activist who has vowed
to dismantle it. (Rogelio V. Solis/AP)
By Katie Mettler March 2 at 10:03 AM
This story has been updated.
Without notifying his followers or even his inner circle, the longtime
president of a legacy neo-Nazi group has signed over its control to a black
civil rights activist from California.
James Hart Stern, a 54-year-old with a history of infiltrating white
supremacist groups, is the new leader of the National Socialist Movement.
And his first move as president was to address a pending lawsuit against the
neo-Nazi group by asking a Virginia judge to find it guilty of conspiring
to commit violence at the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in
2017.
Next, he plans to transform the hate group’s website into a space for
Holocaust history lessons.
“I did the hard and dangerous part,” Stern told The Washington Post in his
first interview since taking over the National Socialist Movement. “As a
black man, I took over a neo-Nazi group and outsmarted them.”
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For weeks, the sudden change in power had confounded those who study hate
groups and perplexed those within the organization, who had heard nothing
from the man who led the Detroit-based hate group for 24 years, former NSM
president Jeff Schoep.
Before Friday, neither man had publicly addressed the organizational changes.
First, Stern came forward to share the full story of his unconventional rise
to power — an “epic” tale, he said, that includes infiltration,
persuasion and a hint of manipulation. There’s a reason, he said, that some
call him the “race whisperer.”
The Washington Post published his version of events Friday evening. Just
after midnight, Schoep finally spoke, too.
In a lengthy statement to his followers, which he shared with The Post,
Schoep wrote that he had been “deceived” by Stern who “convinced me that
in order to protect our membership from the ongoing lawsuit, I should sign
over NSM’s presidency to him.”
Schoep said it was time for “fresh blood” in NSM leadership and announced
he had formally stepped down as “commander” of the organization. Burt
Colucci, chief of staff of the National Socialist Movement, will be taking
over as commander, according to the statement.
“I want to thank everyone who has stood by us during this difficult time.
You are giants among lesser men and your loyalty will be remembered,”
Schoep wrote in the statement. “As for all of the vultures, snakes, and
international banking and media interests who have attempted to damage NSM
and me personally, you have shown your true colors.”
It remains unclear how NSM will be able to maintain its organizational
infrastructure with Stern legally at the helm of the corporation. In his
statement, Schoep said he intends to challenge Stern’s ownership.
“This paper appointment will not stop us,” Schoep said. “Mr. Stern’s bad
faith actions may leave me no choice but to protect my rights in a court of
law, as I believe he fraudulently manipulated me for the purposes of
gaining control of, and dissolving NSM.”
To understand how Stern came to overtake Schoep’s organization, you first
must understand how the Michigan neo-Nazi came to find the California
activist.
While serving prison time in Mississippi for mail fraud, Stern formed a
relationship with his cellmate and onetime Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard Edgar
Ray Killen. The KKK leader had been convicted in the “Mississippi Burning”
killings of three civil rights workers. Though Killen regularly called
Stern a racial slur, he nevertheless granted his cellmate power of attorney
over his life story and estate.
Stern was paroled from prison in 2011, and in 2016 he used his legal
discretion to dissolve the Klan organization Killen once led.
This was his first successful infiltration — and the lore of Stern’s
relationship with the KKK leader is what Stern says first drew Schoep in.
In 2014, Schoep called Stern without notice to inquire about his
relationship with Killen, the activist said. Schoep asked to see the man’s
prison ID card and said Stern was the first black man his organization had
reached out to since Malcolm X. Stern said he searched Schoep’s name,
discovered he was a white supremacist, then arranged for the two to meet in
California for a small race relations summit.
The two have fostered a strange kind of relationship ever since, the civil
rights activist said.
Schoep and Stern remained firmly entrenched in their own political camps, he
said, fundamentally opposed to what the other represents. But they also
engaged in regular debate: about the Holocaust, the ugliness of the Nazi
swastika, the fallibility of Schoep’s white-nationalist ideals and, most
critically, the fate of his hate group.
The goal, Stern claims, was always to try to change Schoep’s mind.
“From day one, I always told him: ‘I don’t agree with you; I don’t like
you,’ ” Stern said. “I talked to him because I wanted to hope to change
him.”
Change Schoep’s beliefs, Stern did not.
But according to Stern’s version of recent events, he was able to
accomplish the next best thing.
In early 2019, Stern said Schoep came to him for legal advice on the lawsuit
, which was filed in 2017 by a Charlottesville counterprotester against NSM
and other white-nationalist groups who attended the Unite the Right rally.
Schoep seemed “rattled,” Stern said, and began talking about making a
change. “I was hoping he was talking about his ideology,” Stern said.
Instead, Stern said the white nationalist leader called NSM an “albatross
hanging around his neck” and said he was looking for ways to get out. He
still held the same beliefs, Stern said, but he was ready to cut ties with
NSM and start a new organization because he felt underappreciated by his
followers and left out of the mainstream white-nationalist movement that had
swept the country in the wake of the 2016 presidential election.
Schoep was concerned about the repercussions of the Charlottesville lawsuit
and the legal bills he was shouldering, Stern said, and he confided in the
California activist as he sought solutions.
“I saw a crack in that armor,” Stern said.
So he encouraged Schoep to get a fresh start — by handing over control of
the Detroit-based organization and website to Stern.
And Schoep said yes.
“He knew that he had the most vulnerable, the most loose-cannon members
that they had ever had in the organization,” Stern said. “He realized
somebody was going to commit a crime, and he was going to be held
responsible for it.”
In his statement about the ordeal, Schoep did not address how he came to
know Stern, nor did he explain the conversations that led to his decision.
In mid-January, Schoep filed incorporation paperwork with the Michigan
Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs to formally transfer the
National Socialist Movement to Stern, according to documents filed with the
state. By Feb. 15, Stern was listed in court documents for the lawsuit as
NSM’s representative. Stern is not listed as an individual defendant in the
suit.
Now, he’s preparing for what comes next — and seeking guidance from Jewish
leaders. Stern said he does not plan to dissolve the corporation because he
doesn’t want Schoep’s followers, or others in the white-nationalist
movement, to reincorporate it.
Stern admits his plans for the website are still evolving, but his primary
goal is to offer it as a reclaimed space to Jewish organizations that could
help him educate NSM’s followers on the history of the Holocaust.
“Everything is out in the open,” Stern said. “My plans and intentions are
not to let this group prosper. It’s my goal to set some hard records right
.”
Schoep took control of NSM in 1994 and was responsible for growing its
membership and brand as an organization of Holocaust deniers and Adolf
Hitler acolytes. The group maintains a website that draws in millions of
visitors from around the world, Stern said, and has organized public rallies
across the county.
The group, whose members wear SS-like uniforms that mirror those worn in
Nazi Germany, was founded under a different name in 1974 by two former
officials of the American Nazi Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law
Center. “Signing over leadership of an organization this old is the
equivalent of a death sentence in the white-nationalist movement,” said
Keegan Hankes, an SPLC research analyst. “It’s one of the strangest things
I’ve seen since I started tracking these things five years ago.”
Several of the people listed on the NSM website as leaders within the
organization did not respond to a request for comment from The Post on
Friday. One man who identifies himself as SS Capt. Harry L. Hughes III and
is listed as the public relations director for NSM, said in an email that he
is “not involved in the NSM’s legal affairs” and was “not at liberty to
discuss anything, until Commander Schoep personally makes a statement.”
“Just like you and the rest of the media, I’m waiting in suspense, too,”
Hughes added.
Matthew Heimbach, a leading white-nationalist figure who briefly served as
community outreach director of the organization last year, told the
Associated Press that there has been conflict between NSM’s leaders,
including Schoep, and its membership. Heimbach estimated the group had 40
dues-paying members last year.
The biggest challenge the group has faced, the SPLC’s Hankes said, was
being outshone by the more refined efforts of new alt-right leaders such as
Richard Spencer. There was tension within the organization about the need
for a shift to a less violent, less explicit brand of neo-Nazism, he said.
"A lot of these groups see [NSM] as extremely detrimental to anything
regarding identity politics,” Hankes said.
Stern told The Post that he and Schoep discussed this infighting and that
Schoep expressed a desire to leave NSM behind and start a new organization
with less baggage.
Schoep offered a different perspective in his statement: “I realize that
there is a lot of confusion right now, and ongoing legal matters prevent me
from being more thorough in my explanation of events. Regardless, it is
important for me to communicate that my actions are always done for a reason
, and I would never purposefully damage the organization I have spent so
many years serving.”
Though Schoep is no longer legally affiliated with NSM, he still faces the
lawsuit because he is listed as a defendant in an individual capacity.
“It’s definitely not good for him, and it shouldn’t be good for him,”
Stern said. “You spend 25 years terrorizing people, you can’t rebrand
overnight. It doesn’t work like that.”
From California, where he runs Racial Reconciliation Outreach Ministries,
Stern is still sorting through the legal intricacies his new leadership
entails. He is currently listed as the attorney representing NSM in court
filings, but a judge ruled Friday that he cannot be NSM’s lawyer because
corporations are not legally authorized to represent themselves in court.
Stern said he is working on hiring an outside lawyer to refile his motion
for a summary judgment on the lawsuit. He has also offered the plaintiff’s
attorneys full access to NSM social media accounts, he said — because he
claims to own those now, too.
“Say what you want about me,” Stern said. “But I’ve done this twice now.
g**********1
发帖数: 1
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舔红脖的黄疮情何以堪
S*****l
发帖数: 1043
3
属实
我就一直认为洪波暴力基因不如老黑
现在智商也不如
而且和华人聚集区没啥交集
不知道傻逼整天宣扬洪波威胁论
什么洪波让黄人进集中营一类的是个啥意思?


: 舔红脖的黄疮情何以堪



【在 g**********1 的大作中提到】
: 舔红脖的黄疮情何以堪
P**T
发帖数: 2274
4
现在洪波完全尼人化了,不如老黑那样的智人先驱,LOL


: 属实

: 我就一直认为洪波暴力基因不如老黑

: 现在智商也不如

: 而且和华人聚集区没啥交集

: 不知道傻逼整天宣扬洪波威胁论

: 什么洪波让黄人进集中营一类的是个啥意思?



【在 S*****l 的大作中提到】
: 属实
: 我就一直认为洪波暴力基因不如老黑
: 现在智商也不如
: 而且和华人聚集区没啥交集
: 不知道傻逼整天宣扬洪波威胁论
: 什么洪波让黄人进集中营一类的是个啥意思?
:
:
: 舔红脖的黄疮情何以堪
:

g**********1
发帖数: 1
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红脖之所以没能把黄人送进集中营就是因为有老黑民权份子给摁着。

【在 S*****l 的大作中提到】
: 属实
: 我就一直认为洪波暴力基因不如老黑
: 现在智商也不如
: 而且和华人聚集区没啥交集
: 不知道傻逼整天宣扬洪波威胁论
: 什么洪波让黄人进集中营一类的是个啥意思?
:
:
: 舔红脖的黄疮情何以堪
:

h********8
发帖数: 761
6
是把你摁着吧,LOL

【在 g**********1 的大作中提到】
: 红脖之所以没能把黄人送进集中营就是因为有老黑民权份子给摁着。
h********8
发帖数: 761
7
老黑,穆穆智商碾压民主党员,不久就一锅端了
g**********1
发帖数: 1
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你笑个JB,劳资说的话你好好琢磨琢磨,就是这个理。

【在 h********8 的大作中提到】
: 是把你摁着吧,LOL
h****e
发帖数: 1
9
我对老黑的情商高
敬仰如滔滔江水
老黑根本没有必要使用智商
h********8
发帖数: 761
10
要别人琢磨你?你还是去照照镜子,你别自己笑岔了气,呵呵

【在 g**********1 的大作中提到】
: 你笑个JB,劳资说的话你好好琢磨琢磨,就是这个理。
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h********8
发帖数: 761
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你住黑人区?
任何人种都有情商比你高的

【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: 我对老黑的情商高
: 敬仰如滔滔江水
: 老黑根本没有必要使用智商

j****z
发帖数: 299
12

有道理,如果没有老黑的努力,不只是老黑被白人给摁着,其他族裔也不可避免,所以
老黑的民权运动不只是帮助了自已,也顺带的帮助了其他族裔

【在 g**********1 的大作中提到】
: 红脖之所以没能把黄人送进集中营就是因为有老黑民权份子给摁着。
h********8
发帖数: 761
13
瞧瞧,黄皮尼格可不是白叫的, LOL

【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
:
: 有道理,如果没有老黑的努力,不只是老黑被白人给摁着,其他族裔也不可避免,所以
: 老黑的民权运动不只是帮助了自已,也顺带的帮助了其他族裔

j****z
发帖数: 299
14

我也不喜欢黑人,但不能因为讨厌黑人而抹杀黑人的民权运动,其他族裔如果没有老黑
的努力,你觉得你这身黄皮还能在美国和白皮共享资源么

【在 h********8 的大作中提到】
: 瞧瞧,黄皮尼格可不是白叫的, LOL
g**********1
发帖数: 1
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你骂街有球用?你成天躲在华人堆里幻想红脖是你大爷,红脖就认你这个巴斯塔的是孙
子了?

【在 h********8 的大作中提到】
: 要别人琢磨你?你还是去照照镜子,你别自己笑岔了气,呵呵
S*****l
发帖数: 1043
16
是的,看看没有老黑的国家华人多么悲惨,比如俄罗斯?
看看老黑多多的国家华人多么幸福。
就知道感恩了

【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
:
: 我也不喜欢黑人,但不能因为讨厌黑人而抹杀黑人的民权运动,其他族裔如果没有老黑
: 的努力,你觉得你这身黄皮还能在美国和白皮共享资源么

j****z
发帖数: 299
17

用不着感恩,人家也只是抗争自己的命运,并没有解救其他族裔的意思,其他族裔也就
是个顺带

【在 S*****l 的大作中提到】
: 是的,看看没有老黑的国家华人多么悲惨,比如俄罗斯?
: 看看老黑多多的国家华人多么幸福。
: 就知道感恩了

l****o
发帖数: 5435
18


【在 g**********1 的大作中提到】
: 红脖之所以没能把黄人送进集中营就是因为有老黑民权份子给摁着。
l****o
发帖数: 5435
19


【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: 我对老黑的情商高
: 敬仰如滔滔江水
: 老黑根本没有必要使用智商

l****o
发帖数: 5435
20
华人没被送集中营
主要是因为智商高的犹太人和情商高的黑人把洪波摁着
华人有一天被送集中营
只是因为智商情商为负的狗娘养的老将上窜下跳舔洪波,把华人的名声败坏到过街老鼠
人人喊打
华人像被送集中营那一天晚点到来
需要先把狗娘养的老将一个个摁死
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S*****l
发帖数: 1043
21
属实,感恩索罗斯!

【在 l****o 的大作中提到】
: 华人没被送集中营
: 主要是因为智商高的犹太人和情商高的黑人把洪波摁着
: 华人有一天被送集中营
: 只是因为智商情商为负的狗娘养的老将上窜下跳舔洪波,把华人的名声败坏到过街老鼠
: 人人喊打
: 华人像被送集中营那一天晚点到来
: 需要先把狗娘养的老将一个个摁死

l****o
发帖数: 5435
22
油油靠智商做资本家逃税,老黑靠吃福利,不劳而获
洪波卖体力,小黄人卖脑力,交税后
在油油和老黑的挑拨下,互相鄙视互殴互灭
S*****l
发帖数: 1043
23
属实 感恩犹犹和老黑 他们实在是华人之友!

【在 l****o 的大作中提到】
: 油油靠智商做资本家逃税,老黑靠吃福利,不劳而获
: 洪波卖体力,小黄人卖脑力,交税后
: 在油油和老黑的挑拨下,互相鄙视互殴互灭

l****o
发帖数: 5435
24
不管是谁,把老将拍死,没毛病

【在 S*****l 的大作中提到】
: 属实 感恩犹犹和老黑 他们实在是华人之友!
h********8
发帖数: 761
25
这么说就没意思了,今天的任何事情都是以前的人和事的结果,尼玛要意识到的东西太
多了

【在 j****z 的大作中提到】
:
: 用不着感恩,人家也只是抗争自己的命运,并没有解救其他族裔的意思,其他族裔也就
: 是个顺带

b******n
发帖数: 1
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南北战争是民权运动的结果?猪党把日本人送进集中营的时候,老黑民权份子去哪里了
?猪党排华法案的时候,老黑民权份子去哪里了?道歉排华法案,是老黑民权份子的功
劳?不知道自己努力,光知道舔黑皮炎的狗屎色尼格。真正站起来,靠自己的战斗,靠
自己的选票。靠舔,你的脖子上除了白人的屎,只不过再加上黑人的屎而已。不过你们
非移可以愉快地舔两个鸡巴了。
[在 georgebush41 (大笑悼念你一世纪) 的大作中提到:]
:红脖之所以没能把黄人送进集中营就是因为有老黑民权份子给摁着。
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