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Military版 - 中国一只脚已经踏进了衰退
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q******s
发帖数: 7469
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澳洲媒体说的。中国的地产崩盘会把全世界带进衰退。
c******e
发帖数: 1351
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狐狸台网站今天run了一篇文章,骂一个“奥威尔式社会”用人脸识别技术来执行强制
隔离,大标题虽然没说是谁,俺习惯性以为是反华ptsd又发作了,点进去居然说的是袋
鼠国
l**p
发帖数: 6080
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首当其冲就是袋鼠
没地方卖铁矿了
袋鼠除了原材料农产品
皮耶没有

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲媒体说的。中国的地产崩盘会把全世界带进衰退。
q******s
发帖数: 7469
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The elephant in the global room is China’s ferocious property squeeze. Xi
Jinping is deliberately breaking the back of the world’s biggest financial
bubble.
The Chinese economy already has one foot in recession - by its own cyclical
standards - and is heading for a hard-landing over the next few months as
construction is starved of credit.
President Xi Jinping is shaking up the Chinese economy. Markets should be
prepared for what could be a much worse-than-expected growth slowdown, and
potential stock market turmoil,” said Ting Lu, Nomura’s chief China
economist.
The scale of China’s cement addiction is eye-watering. “Half the world’s
cranes are in China. We’re talking about 50 per cent of the global
construction business,” he said.
Home building and property make up 17 per cent of Chinese GDP, including
furniture and appliances. The sector also generates 44 per cent of local
government revenues through land sales and fees, injecting $US1.3 trillion (
$1.8 trillion) a year into the economy as quasi-fiscal spending. All told,
property makes up a quarter of the Chinese economy, three times the relative
weighting of America’s extreme bubble in 2007.
Xi Jinping’s assault on property should not be confused with the stop-go
cycles of the last quarter century, a form of Keynesian fine-tuning with “
Chinese characteristics” that has each time prevented economic slowdowns
from going too far - at the cost of worsening debt ratios.
“This time is different. It is China’s Volcker moment,” says Ting. The
term refers to the drastic monetary tightening of the US Federal Reserve
under Paul Volcker, who raised interest rates to 19 per cent in 1981 to halt
the destructive wage-price spiral of the Great Inflation - setting off the
Latin American debt crisis as collateral damage.
Nomura says sales curbs already in place may push the property nexus into
outright contraction before the end of the year. The crunch comes at a
delicate juncture for the West, just as COVID stimulus fades and emergency
support is yanked away. Goldman Sachs says the negative effects of “fiscal
drag” in the US amount to 4 per cent of GDP (annualised) from now until the
end of 2022.
Nomura describes the Volcker parallel as “positive praise for Beijing”,
and in one sense it is. The Communist Party at last seems determined to
lance the boil. But Xi’s petulant shake-up of the economy is also an
ideological repudiation of the Deng Xiaoping formula credited with lifting
the country out of poverty. His “common prosperity” campaign looks all too
like a neo-Maoist purge.
It amounts to a declaration of war on “disorderly capital” and swaths of
the private sector - the only dynamic part of China’s economy. The
regulatory mugging of internet platforms, fintech, video games, ride-hailing
, after-school tutoring, food delivery, and e-cigarettes - with “
rectifications” to match - has echoes of the Cultural Revolution.
Those who know how the world economy really works are trying to head off a
debacle. “We must be vigilant against “common prosperity” becoming a
Great Leap Forward or something that blights development,” said Li Daokui,
a former rate-setter at the central bank and a Davos fixture.
The COVID boom has been perversely lucrative for the owners of capital in
rich economies. But the easy money is exhausted and political risk is rising
. We are moving into treacherous global waters.
But the revolutionary mood was made all clear this week in a WeChat blog
known as the “Li Guangman Ice Point Commentary”. His diatribe was
reprinted across the state-run media with the clear blessing of the regime.<
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“Everyone can feel that a profound change is taking place,” he
stated, proclaiming an end to China’s love affair with Western culture and
“return to the essence of socialism”. It was framed as a fight to the
death with the West, the unvarnished Xi doctrine.
The showdown has exposed China’s Achilles’ heel: its reliance on imported
hi-tech components and chips, the fuel of the digital economy.
The other catalytic shock has been this year’s census, revealing that the
country is ageing even faster than feared. The fertility has kept falling to
1.3 per cent despite the end of the one-child policy, now the three-child
policy.
The Party has concluded that the house price spiral is triply corrosive: it
is a financial black hole; it is the chief cause of cancerous inequality;
and it is a strategic threat through the demographic channel.

E-house
China Research says the ratio of prices to average incomes in Shenzhen has
reached 43.5. Top party officials have been sacked for allowing this to
happen. Local government bosses everywhere now know that they will be
punished for property booms and rewarded for austerity.
The plan is to offset the attack on property and other sectors of capitalist
sin with “universal easing” to bolster the rest of the economy. The State
Council last month ordered the People’s Bank to cut the reserve
requirement ratio for lenders in a pre-emptive move.

This cannot stop
a slowdown. Construction is the chief instrument of cyclical management. No
other sector is big enough to compensate, nor able to transmit the credit
impulse.
The immediate danger is what happens to Chinese developers with $US5.1
trillion ($6.9 trillion) debt between them, many relying on sales of unbuilt
property to roll over existing liabilities.
China’s developers have amassed $US5.1 trillion in debt between them, with
many relying on sales of unbuilt property to roll over existing liabilities.
Hedge fund veteran George Soros this week floated the possibility of a
systemic financial crash and an educational reckoning for tourist investors
from the West. But I find it hard to imagine a Lehmanesque “Minsky”
meltdown in a system where the state retains iron control over banks.
The authorities are already orchestrating a disguised soft-landing for
indebted developer Evergrande. “They cannot afford to let it go bust so
they are kicking the can down the road,” said George Magnus from Oxford
University’s China Centre.
“The Party craves two things above all: control, and stability. If the
property market falters, the consequences for the Chinese economy will be
savage. They will not want to take that risk before next year’s Party
Congress,” he said. The forum is supposed to be the ultimate coronation of
“helmsman” Xi.
Yet that does not preclude a slow-motion deterioration that ends illusions
of Chinese economic exceptionalism and that is large enough to throw the
world’s post-pandemic recovery into doubt. The unfolding drama dwarfs the
relatively trivial question of when the Fed will tweak its bond purchases,
and by how much.
The COVID boom has been perversely lucrative for the owners of capital in
rich economies. But the easy money is exhausted and political risk is rising
. We are moving into treacherous global waters.

h***n
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搞笑 一战前澳洲加拿大就比欧洲还富了
他妈的 四十年前地球人是不是吃不上饭啊 毕竟那时候没有中国人施舍 因为中国人自
己连裤子也穿不起

【在 l**p 的大作中提到】
: 首当其冲就是袋鼠
: 没地方卖铁矿了
: 袋鼠除了原材料农产品
: 皮耶没有

a***n
发帖数: 1993
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那还不快来救,救中国就是救世界

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲媒体说的。中国的地产崩盘会把全世界带进衰退。
d******e
发帖数: 2265
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这种文章看多了就和老将一样傻逼。

financial
cyclical

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: The elephant in the global room is China’s ferocious property squeeze. Xi
: Jinping is deliberately breaking the back of the world’s biggest financial
: bubble.
: The Chinese economy already has one foot in recession - by its own cyclical
: standards - and is heading for a hard-landing over the next few months as
: construction is starved of credit.
: President Xi Jinping is shaking up the Chinese economy. Markets should be
: prepared for what could be a much worse-than-expected growth slowdown, and
: potential stock market turmoil,” said Ting Lu, Nomura’s chief China
: economist.

t*****n
发帖数: 2578
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中国就是生产了几亿双袜子信心爆棚了,觉得没它生产几亿双袜子别的国家都活不下去
了,都得光脚
d******e
发帖数: 2265
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事实上,文中主要weirdest是野村的陆挺的主要观点,中国房市进入沃尔克时刻。
就是政府要断臂求生。光看经济会看不清楚。
但是沃尔克时刻一定伴随着打台湾。
现在根本没有准备好。先等冬奥会结束吧。

financial
cyclical

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: The elephant in the global room is China’s ferocious property squeeze. Xi
: Jinping is deliberately breaking the back of the world’s biggest financial
: bubble.
: The Chinese economy already has one foot in recession - by its own cyclical
: standards - and is heading for a hard-landing over the next few months as
: construction is starved of credit.
: President Xi Jinping is shaking up the Chinese economy. Markets should be
: prepared for what could be a much worse-than-expected growth slowdown, and
: potential stock market turmoil,” said Ting Lu, Nomura’s chief China
: economist.

n*******g
发帖数: 4462
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救中国就是救世界

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲媒体说的。中国的地产崩盘会把全世界带进衰退。
m*********9
发帖数: 56
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主要看恒大这次能不能顶住,估计得救吧,要不然银行就玩了

【在 q******s 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲媒体说的。中国的地产崩盘会把全世界带进衰退。
t*****9
发帖数: 10416
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看好土共 win twice ~~
习胖不肯吹泡泡啦,
Biden 刚吹了个1.9T的,anther 3.5T on the way
p****7
发帖数: 641
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你们想多了,看看美国怎么解决问题的,印钱而已。何况恒大只是资金链有可能断裂,
它屯了太多的地,卖的太慢了而已。这个囤地的钱政府吐一点出来不应该吗?资产表上
面的东西转移一下地方而已。
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