d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 1 Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta
variant, new study says
Unvaccinated people who had previously contracted COVID-19 were better
protected against the Delta variant than those who were only vaccinated, a
new study published on Wednesday by a US health authority said.
http://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/20/natural-immunity-against-covid-lowered-risk-more-than-vaccines-against-delta-variant-new-s |
a*******g
发帖数: 3500 | |
V*******n
发帖数: 1 | 3 这种傻逼言论，难道不知道抵抗力差的都死了？样本偏差这么大根本不可能得到可靠结
论的研究再次证明医学钱老都是傻逼。 |
L****y
发帖数: 757 | 4 关建是打疫苗的和没打的哪个好，应该早有文章定论了吧。 |
d******a
发帖数: 32122 | 5 呵呵
【在 V*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这种傻逼言论，难道不知道抵抗力差的都死了？样本偏差这么大根本不可能得到可靠结
: 论的研究再次证明医学钱老都是傻逼。
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d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 6 这个不翻译还真是挺难理解
翻译一下就是
打了疫苗的死亡率高于感染delta的死亡率
难于理解的是
又说，疫苗最安全
这故事自相矛盾
Delta
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta
: variant, new study says
: Unvaccinated people who had previously contracted COVID-19 were better
: protected against the Delta variant than those who were only vaccinated, a
: new study published on Wednesday by a US health authority said.
: http://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/20/natural-immunity-against-covid-lowered-risk-more-than-vaccines-against-delta-variant-new-s
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g********s
发帖数: 1 | 7 是不是身体有毛病的人更倾向于去打疫苗呢？样本选择不能不说明白啊
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这个不翻译还真是挺难理解
: 翻译一下就是
: 打了疫苗的死亡率高于感染delta的死亡率
: 难于理解的是
: 又说，疫苗最安全
: 这故事自相矛盾
:
: Delta
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H*******2
发帖数: 1 | 8 打疫苗的死亡率高于感染Delta的死亡率。
但是如果打了三针疫苗之后你还没有死，你就是最安全的。 |
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a*******g
发帖数: 3500 | 9 这不是疫苗
这是过滤器
lol
: 打疫苗的死亡率高于感染Delta的死亡率。
: 但是如果打了三针疫苗之后你还没有死，你就是最安全的。
【在 H*******2 的大作中提到】
: 打疫苗的死亡率高于感染Delta的死亡率。
: 但是如果打了三针疫苗之后你还没有死，你就是最安全的。
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d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 10 感觉就是买完疫苗
不管用
现在该卖群免了
【在 H*******2 的大作中提到】
: 打疫苗的死亡率高于感染Delta的死亡率。
: 但是如果打了三针疫苗之后你还没有死，你就是最安全的。
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g****g
发帖数: 1267 | 11 这不是应该difference in difference吗，咋直接比较了 |
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 12 CDC完全变成笑话了。疫苗的意义是防止人生病，而CDC建议人生病比打疫苗好。卧槽！
Delta
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta
: variant, new study says
: Unvaccinated people who had previously contracted COVID-19 were better
: protected against the Delta variant than those who were only vaccinated, a
: new study published on Wednesday by a US health authority said.
: http://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/20/natural-immunity-against-covid-lowered-risk-more-than-vaccines-against-delta-variant-new-s
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d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 13 原文
By the week beginning October 3, compared with COVID-19 cases rates among
unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, case rates among
vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis were 6.2-fold (
California) and 4.5-fold (New York) lower; rates were substantially lower
among both groups with previous COVID-19 diagnoses, including 29.0-fold (
California) and 14.7-fold lower (New York) among unvaccinated persons with a
previous diagnosis, and 32.5-fold (California) and 19.8-fold lower (New
York) among vaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis of COVID-19.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_w
这个明确了
mRNA疫苗保护大约5X
感染保护大约22X（相当于灭活疫苗）
感染加mRNA疫苗保护26X（相当于灭活疫苗+mRNA） |
d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 14 塔国就是不肯承认灭活疫苗好
宁可承认感染好
这是什么脑子？
among
a
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 原文
: By the week beginning October 3, compared with COVID-19 cases rates among
: unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, case rates among
: vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis were 6.2-fold (
: California) and 4.5-fold (New York) lower; rates were substantially lower
: among both groups with previous COVID-19 diagnoses, including 29.0-fold (
: California) and 14.7-fold lower (New York) among unvaccinated persons with a
: previous diagnosis, and 32.5-fold (California) and 19.8-fold lower (New
: York) among vaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis of COVID-19.
: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_w
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i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 15 不加最后一段“疫苗最安全”，文章就没法过审。
a
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这个不翻译还真是挺难理解
: 翻译一下就是
: 打了疫苗的死亡率高于感染delta的死亡率
: 难于理解的是
: 又说，疫苗最安全
: 这故事自相矛盾
:
: Delta
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z*****n
发帖数: 36 | 16 死人，自动从sample里踢出？
【在 H*******2 的大作中提到】
: 打疫苗的死亡率高于感染Delta的死亡率。
: 但是如果打了三针疫苗之后你还没有死，你就是最安全的。
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d*******y
发帖数: 2710 | 17 还有去年以色列的研究
也是这个结论
Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but
vaccination remains vital
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-
greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
cdc只是验证了它的正确性。 |
p****t
发帖数: 14 | 18 中国死于接种脊髓灰质炎疫苗的比死于感染脊髓灰质炎病毒的多上千万倍。
Delta variant, new study says
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: Natural immunity against COVID lowered risk more than vaccines against Delta
: variant, new study says
: Unvaccinated people who had previously contracted COVID-19 were better
: protected against the Delta variant than those who were only vaccinated, a
: new study published on Wednesday by a US health authority said.
: http://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/20/natural-immunity-against-covid-lowered-risk-more-than-vaccines-against-delta-variant-new-s
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b********e
发帖数: 1100 | |
p****t
发帖数: 14 | 20 疫苗黑都是有任务的。
【在 b********e 的大作中提到】
: 你们这些傻鸟都看不懂英文？
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B*********L
发帖数: 700 | |
w***x
发帖数: 1763 | 22 可能和疫情早中期美国有大量漏检有关
所以早中期确诊患者中重症的比例高，这些人的免疫水平较高可能后续不容易再感染。
among
a
【在 d*******y 的大作中提到】
: 原文
: By the week beginning October 3, compared with COVID-19 cases rates among
: unvaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, case rates among
: vaccinated persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis were 6.2-fold (
: California) and 4.5-fold (New York) lower; rates were substantially lower
: among both groups with previous COVID-19 diagnoses, including 29.0-fold (
: California) and 14.7-fold lower (New York) among unvaccinated persons with a
: previous diagnosis, and 32.5-fold (California) and 19.8-fold lower (New
: York) among vaccinated persons with a previous diagnosis of COVID-19.
: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_w
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