w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 2 如之前说过几次
俄乌都有相当高成分的宣传
乌克兰有的报道
会被头脑至少稍微清醒的人感觉
特别不靠谱
什么几天内连续解放北方几十个村镇城市，杀了不少俄军，击毁和缴获了大量武器
（之前我用各类相关视频的缺乏，还有乌军官方战报数据，说明了那是编造
----我多次说过，这种宣传可以被理解，为了士气和民气）
打死了一堆将军等等（其中至少2个“复活”了，包括8集团军副总）
bucha屠杀也是一例
还在大街头杀不少人，很可能是在扯淡
为什么？
其中有些可能就是乌军包括地方部队自己弄的
杀“乌奸”或者摆拍都有可能
乌方需要拿出发生了俄军杀害不少平民的证据
没有那就定不了罪，但是显然那会在反俄国民众里普遍接受，就像很多西方人相信7.5
有理、维吾尔族正在被灭族一样。。。
下面是俄方自己的反驳
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
⚡🇷🇺Russian Defence Ministry denies accusations of Kiev
regime of allegedly killing civilians in Bucha, Kiev Region
❗All the photos and videos published by the Kiev regime allegedly
testifying to some "crimes" committed by Russian servicemen in Bucha, Kiev
region are just another provocation.
▫During the time that the town has been under the control of the
Russian armed forces, not a single local resident has suffered from any
violent action. Russian servicemen have delivered and distributed 452 tonnes
of humanitarian aid to civilians in Kiev Region.
▫For as long as the town was under the control of the Russian armed
forces and even then, up to now, locals in Bucha were moving freely around
the town and using cellular phones.
❗The exits from Bucha were not blocked. All local residents were free
to leave the town in northern direction, including to the Republic of
Belarus. At the same time, the southern outskirts of the city, including
residential areas, were shelled round the clock by Ukrainian troops with
large-calibre artillery, tanks and multiple launch rocket systems.
❗We would like to emphasise that all Russian units withdrew
completely from Bucha as early as March 30, the day after the Russia-Ukraine
face-to-face round of talks in Turkey.
▫Moreover, on March 31, the mayor of Bucha, Anatoliy Fedoruk,
confirmed in a video message that there were no Russian servicemen in the
town, but he did not even mention any locals shot in the streets with their
hands tied.
▫It is not surprising, therefore, that all the so-called "evidence of
crimes" in Bucha did not emerge until the fourth day, when the Security
Service of Ukraine and representatives of Ukrainian media arrived in the
town.
▫It is of particular worry that all the bodies of the people whose
images have been published by the Kiev regime are not stiffened after at
least four days, have no typical cadaver stains, and the wounds contain
unconsumed blood.
❗All this confirms conclusively that the photos and video footage
from Bucha are another production by the Kiev regime for the Western media,
as was the case in Mariupol with the maternity hospital, as well as in other
cities. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 3 乌军战报
18000人
最近4天报告的俄军的日均死亡比之前的日均数据低50%以上
（即使把最近四天的数据算在3天里）
Heavy battles inflicted on the enemy from 24.02 to 03.04 approximately
folded
special warehouse close to 18000 osib,
tanks - 644 od,
combat armored vehicles - 1830 od,
artillery systems - 325 od,
RSZV - 105 od,
sobi PPO - 54 od,
litakiv - 143 od,
helicopters - 134 od,
automotive equipment - 1249 od,
ships / boats / boats - 7 od,
tanks with PMM - 76,
Operational-tactical UAV - 89.
Special equipment - 24.
Launchers OTRK/TRK - 4. |
w***b
发帖数: 535 | 4 你这说法不可靠，其实从俄国的反应来看，乌克兰的宣传可靠性更高。
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 如之前说过几次
: 俄乌都有相当高成分的宣传
: 乌克兰有的报道
: 会被头脑至少稍微清醒的人感觉
: 特别不靠谱
: 什么几天内连续解放北方几十个村镇城市，杀了不少俄军，击毁和缴获了大量武器
: （之前我用各类相关视频的缺乏，还有乌军官方战报数据，说明了那是编造
: ----我多次说过，这种宣传可以被理解，为了士气和民气）
: 打死了一堆将军等等（其中至少2个“复活”了，包括8集团军副总）
: bucha屠杀也是一例
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 5 战争的走向主要还是看俄方怎么调动
包括大的撤退和比较有意义的关键区进展
俄最终想要控制的地区显然是：
1.从kherson到乌东
2. odessa和kharkiv同等重要，但odessa的战略和长远地位要高得多 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 6
数据和对战场进展的可靠性是哪个更可靠的最终判断依据
我之前说过乌军报过的
俄军损失对它的俘虏数据的荒唐反差
我随便可以找到非数据性质的
乌方报道最大的问题是吹战果
给人的感觉是它在胜利，包括在乌东
很晚才承认izyum失控
【在 w***b 的大作中提到】
: 你这说法不可靠，其实从俄国的反应来看，乌克兰的宣传可靠性更高。
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 7 看这个报告里####部分
Operational information as of 06.00 03.04.2022 on the Russian invasion The
thirty-ninth day of the heroic opposition of the Ukrainian people to the
Russian military invasion has begun. The armed forces of the Russian
Federation continue their armed aggression against Ukraine. The occupation
troops are being withdrawn in some areas. According to available information
, the moral and psychological condition of the enemy personnel and the level
of motivation remains extremely low.
##############################
Commanders of various levels of the 3rd Motorized Rifle Division of the 20th
All-Military Army of the Western Military District refuse to take part in
hostilities.
In addition, the military is writing massive reports of dismissals.
Personnel of the 2nd battalion-tactical groups of the 4th military base from
the 58th all-military army of the Southern Military District, refused to
take part in hostilities on the territory of Ukraine.
##############################
It is planned to return them to the points of permanent deployment. To make
up for the loss of personnel, the Russian leadership is campaigning for
civilians to join the armed forces. Such events are held both in the Russian
Federation and in the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk, Luhansk
regions and the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Systematic violations of the
requirements of International Humanitarian Law on the conduct of war
continue. The Russian occupiers continue to deploy weapons and military
equipment in the immediate vicinity of the housing infrastructure of
settlements, carry out filtration measures in temporarily occupied
territories, commit violence against local residents, engage in looting and
looting. On the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, the defenders of
Ukraine repulsed six enemy attacks, destroyed four tanks, six units of
armored vehicles and seven units of enemy vehicles. The Air Force of the
Armed Forces of Ukraine has hit 8 air targets the previous day: two planes,
one helicopter, one UAV and four cruise missiles. Air Force aircraft
continued to strike at enemy ranges, military equipment columns, and
logistics centers. We believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Let's win
together! Glory to Ukraine! The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has
hit 8 air targets the previous day: two planes, one helicopter, one UAV and
four cruise missiles. Air Force aircraft continued to strike at enemy
ranges, military equipment columns, and logistics centers. We believe in the
Armed Forces of Ukraine! Let's win together! Glory to Ukraine! The Air
Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has hit 8 air targets the previous day:
two planes, one helicopter, one UAV and four cruise missiles. Air Force
aircraft continued to strike at enemy ranges, military equipment columns,
and logistics centers. We believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine! Let's win
together! Glory to Ukraine! |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 8 俄军从30号开始在北部撤军
根据乌军报告
俄军整体的日均损失大幅下降
反映了双方在北部基本没有交战/追击/围剿等等情况
（而乌军官方给他们国人的其它报告是：发生了不少解放性的战斗）
但是bucha政府头的说法和其它信息与bucha屠杀报道实在过晚的情况是很让人生疑的
还是做之前做过的乌军报告数据比较
最后一列是用实际天数做最后几天的日均
与
之前的日均做对比
日均人员损失只是之前的33%
如果按“少一天”算（把最近的5天只当成4天），是之前42%
其它与地面人员相关的数据也显示了明显下降
personnel 17200 491.4 界 18000 200 41.86% 160 33.49%
tanks 597 17.1 界 644 11.8 70.85% 9.4 56.68%
apv 1710 48.9 界 1830 30 63.16% 24 50.53%
artillery system 303 8.7 界 325 5.5 65.35% 4.4 52.28%
mlrs 96 2.7 界 105 2.3 84.38% 1.8 67.50%
anti-aircraft system 54 1.5 界 54 0 0.00% 0 0.00%
aircraft 127 3.6 界 143 4 113.39% 3.2 90.71%
helicopter 129 3.7 界 134 1.3 34.88% 1 27.91%
vehicle 1178 33.7 界 1249 17.8 54.24% 14.2 43.40%
boats 7 0.2 界 7 0 0.00% 0 0.00%
fuel tanks 75 2.1 界 76 0.3 12.00% 0.3 12.00%
UAV operational-tactical level 81 2.3 界 89 2.7 88.89% 2 88.89%
special equipment 21 0.6 界 24 1 128.57% 0.8 128.57%
mobile SRBM system 4 0.1 界 4 0 0.00% 0 0.00% |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 9 “国际社会”就是这样
宣扬自己喜欢听的
假装自己不知道一些事情
西方媒体不可能不知道
在不少地区乌方的战斗力量实际在用平民做人盾
在mariupol，azov显然做得最过分，民众很难跑掉就是他们首当其冲在干
俄军至少在开始的一段时间对民区相当克制，因此损失特别高
媒体心里明白，但就是不说
对新疆对恐怖活动的报道也是遮遮掩掩
我的家族有不少人死在新疆，主要在伊宁地区。那是在1940年那些时期。（相当程度也
涉及维族以外，尤其哈萨克族，还有现在中亚国家地区的人）
其中有些家当时在那里已经生活了几代，好几十年。维族移民到伊宁地区也是比较晚的
事情
。过去主要是蒙族。然后是哈萨克。。。
后来我的家族幸存的都到了内地。。。
后来的恐怖滥杀几乎都涉及维族里的恐怖分子。。。
但是西方的新闻报道都会是偏斜而不关心历史，哪怕是很近的历史。。。
在乌克兰，也是相似的。。。
对azov的报道也是有些遮遮掩掩
而2党的新闻媒体基本也是各说各话
新闻离比较公平比较全面报道过远 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 11 炼钢厂里azov军官被抓？
我很有些不信
虽然上面的军报说他们与乌军已经被基本隔开了 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 12 俄军战报
日均：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：：
防空导弹系统 5.74
战机 3.21
直升机 2.26
无人机 9.9
多发射火箭系统 5.36
炮 20.87
坦克/装甲车 49.18
专用车 45.87
继续重重轰击重要的燃料和润滑油库、燃料库、弹药库、据点和兵营等。。。
有机会就重点提顿涅斯克北部的情况
53+54+25+30+24这几个依次旅被继续艰难地削弱而整体慢慢后退
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
April 3
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (03.04.2022)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special
military operation in Ukraine.
This morning, high-precision sea and air-based missiles destroyed an oil
refinery and three storage facilities for fuel and lubricants near the city
of Odessa, from which fuel was supplied to a group of Ukrainian troops in
the Mykolaiv direction.
The air defense of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down two Ukrainian
unmanned aerial vehicles in the air in the areas of the settlements of
Kudryashovka and Shurovka.
During the night, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace
Forces hit 51 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them: four command posts
, two launchers of the Osa-AKM anti-aircraft missile system in the areas of
the settlements of Barvenkovo and Slavyansk, two artillery
batteries, two installations of multiple launch rocket systems, four field
depots of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition in the areas of
settlements Konstantinovka and Krestishche, as well as 32 strongholds and
areas of concentration of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the
following have been destroyed: 125 aircraft and 88 helicopters, 383 unmanned
aerial vehicles, 221 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1903 tanks and other
armored combat vehicles, 207 multiple rocket launchers, 805 field artillery
guns and mortars, as well as 1781 unit of special military vehicles.
April 3
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (03.04.2022)
Units of the troops of the Donetsk People's Republic, continuing the
offensive, are fighting in the area of
Novobakhmutovka and Troitsky. In the Novoselivka area, the retreating units
of the Ukrainian 25th Airborne Brigade suffered heavy losses as a result of
an artillery strike. More than 40 personnel and 7 armored vehicles were
destroyed.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continued to strike at the
military infrastructure of Ukraine. High-precision air-launched missiles
destroyed large fuel storage facilities in Konstantinovka, Mykolaiv region,
Slavuta, Rivne region, and Ternopil. From these facilities, fuel was
supplied to groups of Ukrainian troops in the Nikolaev and Donetsk
directions.
As a result of the strike on the Balovnoye airfield, in the suburbs of
Nikolaev, an aircraft parking lot and a fuel storage facility were destroyed.
A strike on the military airfield Vasilkov in the Kiev region disabled the
Center for Warning and Control of Aviation and Air Defense of the Ukrainian
Air Force.
During the day, operational-tactical and army aviation of the Russian
Aerospace Forces hit 42 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them: three
launchers of anti-aircraft missile systems, including one Buk-M1 and two Osa
-AKM, one artillery battery, two installations of multiple launch rocket
systems, two field depots of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition, as
well as 8 strongholds and areas of concentration of military equipment of
the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Russian air defense systems shot down three unmanned aerial vehicles in the
air near the settlements of Krasnogorka and Grabovskoye.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 386
unmanned aerial vehicles, 224 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1,918 tanks and
other armored combat vehicles, 209 multiple launch rocket launchers, 814
field artillery pieces and mortars, as well as 1,789 units of special
military vehicles have been destroyed. |
w********9
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A******e
发帖数: 655 | 14 Mariupol的Ilyich刚刚给炸了，https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-DpYyDqD1M， 可
信吗？
还有柏林昨天的”挺俄“convoy是怎么回事，可信嘛？https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=WUieUgU4ItU |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 15
这应该是多天前的
因此在系列里还讨论过为什么不用tos去炸
这个我也贴过
可信
柏林地区有很多俄国移民
德国有好几百万俄国移民
【在 A******e 的大作中提到】
: Mariupol的Ilyich刚刚给炸了，https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-DpYyDqD1M， 可
: 信吗？
: 还有柏林昨天的”挺俄“convoy是怎么回事，可信嘛？https://www.youtube.com/
: watch?v=WUieUgU4ItU
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 16 关于bucha屠杀/“屠杀”
我一开始就质疑
用了“为什么（俄国人在大街上做那傻傻的事情）？”
这位展开了讨论
里面有顿巴斯战况进展 |
w********9
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 18 mariupol
车人抓到一个没来得及换位的azov人
对人家搞摇头活动 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 19 maripol
戏剧院街区
patrick碰上女乌奸 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 20 mariupol私人动物园
patrick见到的园主
“2015年从一个战地移到mariupol。。。大多数动物都死了。。。高个子动物（差不多
）都死了。。。兄弟之间的不必要战争。。。” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 21 mariupol
azovstal冶炼厂附近
俄军艰难推压顽强的乌死战力量
猛炮打前阵 |
w********9
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s*********2
发帖数: 1572 | 23 二毛前期消灭俄军太多，最近有点对不上了，一边全力追击各种大捷，结果杀伤减少。
而大毛如果死亡18000，就算1：2伤亡，54000人战力减员，不赶紧撤退滚蛋，竟然还在
撤退重整进攻是很神奇的。 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 24 乌官方明显的不实报道比俄官方明显多是不争事实
起初最有名的是宣扬蛇岛集体就义
俄军如果也有很多，肯定也会被本版的诸多嘴炮军拿出来猛骂了
我个人的立场是：中立偏俄
因此我可以装重地在菌斑代表中国政府
我在其它主题解释过理由
在比较个人的意义上：
我家族不少先人在历史上差点在伊犁地区与沙俄直接打起来。。。沙俄的乌克兰族是俄
帝国第二大的护皇民族
因此我也算不上出了轨
那个时代，近代的土俄克里米亚战争的涉入国/名义站边国在今天多少差不多也在同样
站边
真是有趣
这场战争对俄乌都是巨大的劳失战
最终会让乌克兰进一步分解
（乌克兰走国家民族化的必然结果。。。希望这里闹南北分立和民族分立的人心里清楚
族裔之间战争是多么可怕的事情。。。不妨去看看比较近的客家人历史。。。民族和谐
很重要。。。融合需要时间。。。从你做起。。。从你的家族做起。。。） |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 25 我很同情乌克兰的俄族人/亲俄人，尤其是顿巴斯的此类民众
他们是被压迫的
因此我觉得顿巴斯人的战争是独立和解放战争，是绝对正义的
不明白他们正义性的人，不是无知人就是人品有很大的问题的类人类
起因是乌克兰在朝国家的乌克兰民族化方向走（其实在2014年前就断断续续开始了），
与俄罗斯族的母国对立，也在文化上消除俄族
兄弟民族分家不公就会导致激烈的冲突
国内过去几十年有不少类似的祖产分配方面的问题
俄罗斯帮顿巴斯人民是对的，在很大程度上
干死azov是绝对正确
乌克兰防卫有特别高的正当性
俄罗斯在其它方面和乌克兰一样有不正当性
但战争了，讨论正义性意义已经不大
就还是看战场吧 |
w********9
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 31 mariupol
车臣人与别人之间
在街区
每日若干次生死对决的
若干次 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 32 mariupol
大队乌军投降
做对了
根本没救，继续打下去把民众和设施也都带走
不该在中心民区打
打游击的地方：
小山地
森林
河区
。。。 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 33 mariupol
中俄共同的母语
“喔！诶呦！”
0:26 |
w********9
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 35 在mariupol投降的是503海军陆战营的267个士兵 |
w********9
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 37 乌军战报
close to 18300 osib,
tanks - 647 od,
combat armored vehicles - 1844 od,
artillery systems - 330 od,
RSZV - 107 od,
sobi PPO - 54 od,
litakiv - 147 od,
helicopters - 134 od,
automotive equipment - 1273 od,
ships / boats - 7 ods,
tanks with PMM - 76,
Operational-tactical UAV - 92.
Special equipment - 25.
Launchers OTRK/TRK - 4. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 38 俄军战报
还是：：：：：：
夜晚空中突击或袭击很成功啊
重点轰击那些
指挥或通讯所/中心啊
燃料或润滑油库啊
弹药库啊/炮啊/火箭炮啊/榴弹炮群啊
据点啊
武器弹药装备集中地啊还有防空导弹系统啊
击落
无人机啊
顿巴斯本部
2共和国国民军和俄军艰难推进啊
顿涅斯克北部
53+54+25+30+24依次旅防线：
25空降旅损高达1连
24机械化旅指挥所、武器、弹药和装备库被轰毁
迄今日均
防空导弹系统 5.65
战斗机 3.13
直升机 2.28
无人机 9.85
多发射火箭系统 5.3
炮 20.95
坦克/装甲车 48.7
专用车 46.05
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
Apr 4
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (04.04.2022)
The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People's Republic, developing the
offensive, captured the fortified area and liberated the settlement of
Novobakhmutovka. During the fighting, up to a company of the enemy's 25th
airborne brigade was destroyed. Units of the People's Militia of the Luhansk
Republic advanced to a depth of 2 kilometers and blocked the settlement of
Novotoshkivske from the east and south.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continued to strike at the
military infrastructure of Ukraine. On the night of April 4, in the area of
the city of Lysichansk, as a result of an air strike, the
command post of the 24th separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian armed
forces and nearby warehouses with ammunition, weapons and military equipment
were destroyed.
As a result of the April 3 attack on the Balovnoye airfield, in the suburbs
of Nikolaev, the destruction of three helicopters of the Ukrainian armed
forces was confirmed.
Russian air defense systems shot down six unmanned aerial vehicles in the
air in the areas of the settlements of Nikolaev, Kherson, Kurakhovka,
Industrialnoe, Velyka Novoselka.
During the night, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace
Forces hit 14 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them: two command posts,
two launchers of Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems in the Krasnogorsk
and Verkhnetoretskoye regions, one artillery battery, two depots of rocket
and artillery weapons and ammunition, and three fuel depots, as well as 6
strongholds and areas of concentration of combat APU technology.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the
following have been destroyed: 125 aircraft, 91 helicopters, 392 unmanned
aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1936 tanks and other
armored combat vehicles, 211 multiple rocket launchers, 833 field artillery
and mortar guns, as well as 1810 units of special military vehicles.
April 4
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (04.04.2022)
Units of the People's Militia of the Luhansk Republic, continuing the
offensive, advanced 2 kilometers in a day and blocked the settlements of
Novotoshkivske, Borovskoye and Metelkino.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continued to strike at the
military infrastructure of Ukraine. During the day, operational-tactical
aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit 17 military facilities of
Ukraine. Among them: two command posts and communication centers, two
ammunition depots and one fuel storage, as well as 11 strongholds and areas
of concentration of Ukrainian troops.
Russian air defense systems shot down two unmanned aerial vehicles in the
air near the village of Severodonetsk.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the
following have been destroyed: 125 aircraft, 91 helicopters, 394 unmanned
aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1948 tanks and other
armored combat vehicles, 212 multiple rocket launchers, 838 field artillery
guns and mortars, as well as 1842 units of special military vehicles. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 39 在第二贴里我写道：
bucha
》其中有些可能就是乌军包括地方部队自己弄的
〉杀“乌奸”或者摆拍都有可能
我认为这个可能性比较大，因此才说出来
（主要的判断依据：俄军撤走到“bucha屠杀”视频出现的间隔有些大；乌军/乌人发视
频不如车人，但也是个先进民族）
北京人的一个贴
（里面的白布带。。。）
https://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Military/64022135.html |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 40 俄军战报高小版
里面特别讨论了bucha
说乌方杀乌奸/侵略军同谋者
“我们人都到了chernhiv，bucha民众被屠杀”？ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 41 mariupol
车臣政要和特种部队指挥官与
267个集体投降的海军陆战队士兵
会面。。。
玉帛谈？ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 42 为了bucha
菌斑跟无数网上的地方都吵疯了
有些人为了有先理，似乎不知道
苏联包含乌克兰，乌克兰族是苏联的核心族之一，是俄罗斯族的亲兄弟族
乌克兰族也是沙俄帝国的中坚族
。。。
bucha最早的twitter视频应该是4月1日拍的，发出时差不多是美国大部分地区的4月1日
晚上，
乌克兰4月2日的正夜后
俄军乌克兰时间30日开始快速撤军，4月1日差不多都到了乌克兰最北的地方
31日bucha的乌克兰头目说：俄军已经撤出乌克兰，确实没提大屠杀
如果有，是不是早就提了？
另外，大路边的若干个尸体带着看起来是白色的布带---俄军带的那种 |
b*****l
发帖数: 1 | 43 小老虎进地道了lol
https://www.youtube.com/v/xAPoiPyWb20
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: mariupol私人动物园
: patrick见到的园主
: “2015年从一个战地移到mariupol。。。大多数动物都死了。。。高个子动物（差不多
: ）都死了。。。兄弟之间的不必要战争。。。”
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 44 我尽可能不发带尸体带视频
这次还是该发了
看‘bucha屠杀’若干受害者身上的白带----俄军带的那种 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 45 mariupol
又出来些乌奸们
azov抢民人的房间当射击点
。。。 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 46 mariupol
鸟瞰
穿城河的桥都被炸坏了
抵抗力量被分成了4块
很猛的枪炮声 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 47 mariupol
“（恐怖分子们）藏在一个个每家都有的（排水道？）洞眼里。。。
像（以往战争中的叙利亚和车臣人那样）跳出来攻击。。。“
把房子改造成了碉堡能用机枪覆盖大片开阔地带。。。
”他们没想到我们快速冲入他们后面搞出动静。。。他们就像是绝了的狗一样跑掉了。
。。
尽管他们威胁我们，要杀我们，要处死我们。。。
完全没门啊，伙计们
我们以其人之道还治其人之身。。。
他们错了，我们才是正义之军，是来惩罚他们的，结果已经证明了。。。“
”可以说有几百敌军在港口那边的区域
其中有些不管困难要试着去工业区
但作为他们最主要防御用的工业区已经有问题了
我们的空军在用各种可能的办法坚强地支持我们的新行动。。。“ |
p****o
发帖数: 1340 | 48 支持你，兄弟。从中国人利益的角度出发，当然要稍微站位俄罗斯一边，这不是显然的吗
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 乌官方明显的不实报道比俄官方明显多是不争事实
: 起初最有名的是宣扬蛇岛集体就义
: 俄军如果也有很多，肯定也会被本版的诸多嘴炮军拿出来猛骂了
: 我个人的立场是：中立偏俄
: 因此我可以装重地在菌斑代表中国政府
: 我在其它主题解释过理由
: 在比较个人的意义上：
: 我家族不少先人在历史上差点在伊犁地区与沙俄直接打起来。。。沙俄的乌克兰族是俄
: 帝国第二大的护皇民族
: 因此我也算不上出了轨
|
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 49 每个人都是有bias的
这次俄乌战争几乎无法找到战争双方真正的关于战争的coverage
战争刚开始的时候，还有一些“independent” media可以看，但是这些不是被silence
了，就是跑到Lviv和乌克兰境外去了。
现在基本只剩propaganda了。乌方基本上就是Zelensky政府scripted的propaganda，这
个还是制作水平较高比较接近HW叙事标准的，估计是有HW和DNC的propaganda高手在指
点，不过被CNN和美国主媒强行“psyop"了这么多年以后，早allergic了，现在看到一
点就想吐，浑身起鸡皮疙瘩。在美国学过non-creative writing的人都知道，现在的
journalism school都是不教你写新闻，而教你怎么写fiction和drama，科班fiction的
人都自叹不如，要拿他们写的书来当教材，跟他们学怎么“create a narrative"的。
乌方“民间”的coverage基本上propaganda的水平还停留在光头党和前苏propaganda的
水平，基本幼儿园水平，根本没法看
俄方（RT）拼命地摞砌details，以为这就是公正，让”事实说话“，实际上骨子里也
是前苏的那一套，是幼儿园大班在努力装大人
你虽然有些bias,至少你只是勤恳地把视频汇总，coverage也在尽力谋求公正
可读性是所有source里面最高的
其实哪有那么多嘴炮军，就那么几个前后矛盾，毫无逻辑性，百分百军盲在不停洗版而
已他们的“coverage”一眼就能看出来比CNN还偏颇的propaganda，基本上属于loony
bin的水平，可读性为negative
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 乌官方明显的不实报道比俄官方明显多是不争事实
: 起初最有名的是宣扬蛇岛集体就义
: 俄军如果也有很多，肯定也会被本版的诸多嘴炮军拿出来猛骂了
: 我个人的立场是：中立偏俄
: 因此我可以装重地在菌斑代表中国政府
: 我在其它主题解释过理由
: 在比较个人的意义上：
: 我家族不少先人在历史上差点在伊犁地区与沙俄直接打起来。。。沙俄的乌克兰族是俄
: 帝国第二大的护皇民族
: 因此我也算不上出了轨
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 50 乌克兰的野外游击车队（其中某人已经牺牲）
用小型反导弹导弹系统埋伏俄军 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 51 mariupol
装甲车
参加民房都是阵地的战斗
在这种街区，被围乌军搞小队渗透应该不难，但有可能会是自杀式的 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 53 帕德里克在mariupol
访民
看azovstal冶炼厂的俄乌分界线 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 54
接第44 贴
41秒处腿上也是白布条吧？
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 我尽可能不发带尸体带视频
: 这次还是该发了
: 看‘bucha屠杀’若干受害者身上的白带----俄军带的那种
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 56 卢甘斯克
俄军夺取的一个城镇
顿巴斯难打跟它多山有关，当然也有河流
小山丘多，特别适合打仗
不少城镇和村庄就建在山丘上
因此农田和道路不规则而且走向较乱 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
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w********9
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w********9
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w********9
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w********9
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 63 你觉得宋庄大捷可靠么？活灵活现，真人讲诉
【在 w***b 的大作中提到】
: 你这说法不可靠，其实从俄国的反应来看，乌克兰的宣传可靠性更高。
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 64 乌军战报
Heavy battles inflicted on the enemy from 24.02 to 05.04 approximately
folded
special warehouse - close to 18500 osib,
tanks - 676 od,
combat armored vehicles - 1858 od,
artillery systems - 332 od,
RSZV - 107 od,
sobi PPO - 55 od,
litakiv - 150 od,
helicopters - 134 od,
automotive equipment - 1322 od,
ships / boats - 7 ods,
tanks with PMM - 76,
Operational-tactical UAV - 94.
Special equipment - 25.
Launchers OTRK/TRK - 4. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 65 俄军战报
总数和日均
226 防空导弹系统 5.51
125 战斗机 3.05 （连续6天是0了---在突然热了一些天后，乌军战斗机极少了
？）
93 直升机 2.27
403 无人机 9.83
214 多发射火箭系统 5.22
854 炮 20.83
1981 坦克/装甲车 48.32
1876 专用车 45.76
经过海上营救mariupol军官的2架米8直升机被击落
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
Apr 5
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (04/05/2022)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special
military operation in Ukraine.
On the evening of April 4, sea-based high-precision long-range weapons near
the city of Ochakiv destroyed the Training Center for Ukrainian Special
Operations Forces, which was used, among other things, to accommodate
foreign mercenaries.
Air-launched high-precision missiles destroyed four fuel storage facilities
to supply Ukrainian troops in the areas of Kremenets, Cherkasy, Zaporozhye
and Novomoskovsk.
During the night, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace
Forces and missile forces hit 134 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them
and guidance of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, one launcher for the
Tochka-U missile system, six ammunition depots and two fuel depots, as well
as 85 strongholds and concentration areas Ukrainian military equipment.
Russian air defense systems shot down four unmanned aerial vehicles in the
air in the areas of the settlements of Chernobaevka, Industrialnaya, Gurty
and Nizhnyaya Krynka.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the
following have been destroyed: 125 aircraft, 91 helicopters, 398 unmanned
aerial vehicles, 226 anti-aircraft missile systems, 1969 tanks and other
armored combat vehicles, 214 multiple rocket launchers, 852 field artillery
and mortar guns, as well as 1873 units of special military vehicles.
According to confirmed information, on the evening of April 4, in the
village of Moshchun, 23 kilometers north-west of Kyiv, servicemen of the
72nd Ukrainian main psychological operations center conducted another staged
filming of civilians allegedly killed by the violent actions of the Russian
armed forces for subsequent distribution through the Western media. Similar
events are now organized by the Ukrainian special services in Sumy, Konotop
and other cities.
Apr 5
Briefing of the Ministry of Defense of Russia (04/05/2022)
The grouping of troops of the Lugansk People's Republic continues to attack
the positions of the Ukrainian 24th separate mechanized brigade and is
fighting on the eastern outskirts of the Novotoshkivske settlement.
In the Severodonetsk direction, units of the Luhansk People's Republic broke
through the defenses of the 57th motorized infantry brigade of the Armed
Forces of Ukraine, destroying up to 50 personnel and 9 armored vehicles, and
are fighting on the northern outskirts of the Zamulovka settlement.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to strike at the
military infrastructure of Ukraine.
High-precision air-launched missiles in the areas of the settlements of
Zolochiv and Chuguev destroyed the command post of the territorial defense
unit, a fuel storage facility and an armored vehicle repair plant.
During the day, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace
Forces and missile forces hit 33 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them:
eight command posts, three logistics depots, as well as 21 strongholds and
areas of concentration of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Russian air defense systems shot down 5 attack Ukrainian unmanned aerial
vehicles in the air.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 125
aircraft, 93 helicopters, 403 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1981 tanks and other
armored combat vehicles, 854 field artillery pieces and mortars, as well as
1876 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.
On the morning of April 5, another attempt by the Kiev regime to evacuate
the leaders of the Azov nationalist battalion was thwarted near Mariupol.
Two Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopters, which tried to break through to the city
from the sea, were shot down from man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems.
Previously, we repeatedly and through all available channels brought to the
Kiev regime our proposals on the possibility of the withdrawal of units of
the Ukrainian armed forces that voluntarily laid down their arms from
Mariupol.
Today, once again, from 6 am Moscow time, Ukrainian servicemen were asked to
stop hostilities, lay down their arms and go out along the agreed route to
the territory controlled by the Kiev regime. However, these proposals are
constantly ignored by the Kiev regime.
Given the disinterest of Kyiv in saving the lives of its military personnel,
Mariupol will be liberated from the nationalists by units of the Russian
armed forces and the Donetsk People's Republic. |
w********9
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 69 mariupol
前面发过的一个近港口区视频
硝烟离港口更近了 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 70 mariupol
赶往/被赶往港口的阿佐夫人
“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“”“
At the disposal of the wargonzo project was shooting from a UAV, where you
can see how the Azov squad (about 10 militants) runs away from their
positions in the city blocks of Mariupol towards seaport. You can also see
that the neo-Nazis are dragging one of the wounded. Such a picture on the
Mariupol front is ubiquitous. Neo-Nazis put up fierce resistance, but
retreat in all areas. Soon exclusive details and details on how the assault
operation of the DPR group of troops and the RF Armed Forces is progressing. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 71 if not specifically mentioned
the default location of descriptions
is
the current capital of all the ongoing battles， mariupol that is
“这是azovtal工业区。。。
有巨大的可能有外国军团，也许军事高管，在里面。。。
至少这不只是谣言。。。
多个谈判中有为了开辟通道的诸多小细节。
我们不知道这有多准，正试图就在此处查验
但现在这里有给洋军提供的没人组织的通道。。。还在战斗。。。
。。。
我们的人在外围反复进攻。。。
坦克炮轰后在用冲锋枪与人家对射。。。
。。。
又是坦克在工作。。。
至少一个海军陆战营在。。。投降。。。放下武器会到了顿涅斯克国军。。。
确有某些谈判还在进行。。。以那些前人们为榜样救自己的命，防止大量平民死亡。。
。“ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
a******g
发帖数: 13519 | 73 什么东西，诡雷？
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 俄老兵看不懂的
: 舶来品
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 74 昨日旧闻
“。。。他们沿路放雷。。。
我方离港口真就只有一两个街区
。。。些民区没有被抹平。。。
投降。。。救很多命包括平民。。。” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 75 早期从顿涅斯克其它地方逃往mariupol后被弃用的残车
离了狗窝
却入熊穴 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 76 rubizhne
卢甘斯克国民军
艰难夺命的推进清零
战场记者也亡命徒奔
最后化工毒气被大量外排
“工业区。。。房屋密集。。。狙击手的易地。。。”
Fighting in Rubizhne LPR troops are cleaning up the industrial zone
Battles in Rubezhnoye: LNR troops are clearing the industrial zone The
advancement of our soldiers is complicated by dense urban development, in
which it is convenient for enemy snipers to work. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 78 flare--信号弹
【在 a******g 的大作中提到】
: 什么东西，诡雷？
|
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 79 海军陆战营军官
对世谈
“救人员的命。。。怕被虐待。。。困难决定。。。现在还行。。。“
是第501海军陆战营，265人
第503营可以松口气了
俄者：
“知道无处可去，抵抗毫无意义。。。基辅让他们当烈士。。。
基辅的俄军杀人宣传让他们对当俘虏感到害怕。。。“ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 81 中球网俄语频道
借助大疆机。。。对顿涅斯克的报道
“他毁他房
他反轰
。。。
（这几个人）的小排击炮每天发400次。。。“
拉锯战
“。。。快钻洞。。。我们有情报知道敌人的来去。。。他们会来压制我们。。。有时
二三十人来“
“我们得离开。。他们只是到了新的位置，不会离开这块地方，会来偷袭。。。”
“这里不是双方界限最不模糊的地方。。。西边的marinka和avdiivka的战斗焦灼，合
围会在2-3星期变得清楚” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 82 顿涅斯克民兵小伙
救了乌军老坦克
成了占友的光荣事迹 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 83 乌军士兵
“最怕的不是大炮炮火，是俄军的航空军火力” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 84 “市长第二天就逃走了。。。我们选了个人。。。我们好几个代表一起工作。。。跟城
市西边的人失去了联系。。。要接上头。。。” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 87 投降吧
总比“战城南，死郭北，野死不葬乌可食”要强
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 海军陆战营军官
: 对世谈
: “救人员的命。。。怕被虐待。。。困难决定。。。现在还行。。。“
: 是第501海军陆战营，265人
: 第503营可以松口气了
: 俄者：
: “知道无处可去，抵抗毫无意义。。。基辅让他们当烈士。。。
: 基辅的俄军杀人宣传让他们对当俘虏感到害怕。。。“
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发帖数: 8613 | 88 slovyansk和kramatosk都是乌军依河的防御重城
1998年2月产的stinger被俄军零元购了
似乎right sector的乌族民兵在那里
❗️Slavic direction. Units and formations of the 20th combined-
arms army continue to break into the enemy defenses in the Slavic direction.
The Slavyansko-Kramatorsk agglomeration is 50 km away. In Kramatorsk, the
headquarters of the "OOS". It is clear that the enemy concentrated large
forces in this direction and formed a layered defense. But, our units manage
to break the enemy. During the day, as a result of the counter-battery
fight, part of the cannon artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was
destroyed, which hit Izyum and the front line (the village of Sukhaya
Kamenka, Brazhkovka), thanks to the actions of the fighters of a number of
divisions, the counterattack action plan was thwarted. The DRG of the Kiev
regime, which had the task of destroying the air defense vehicle of the RF
Armed Forces, was destroyed. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 89 wargonzo头人
探秘
检察院的2栋大楼/曾经的阵地
离港口区乌军600不到650米的地方 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 90 mariupol
被封杀的俄方的大媒体记者
（跟wargonzo一样可以接触战场高层指挥官、有特殊通行保证的记者）
在城市中心河和海岸之间的区，也就是西边靠海区
说：
工业区外都被拿下，也许除了最后一个街块---在他看来
如果是那样，azov就差不多只能完全窝在那个巨大的钢铁厂里了
那个厂区相对比较孤立
从那出去过河将会很难
也许会被围困若干时间
也许以后要到河里去取饮用水
围困煎熬战？ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 91 命大时刻
乌军在高层的狙击手与人
大眼对大眼的
对决 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 92 顿涅斯克国民军炊事员
饭做的太好吃
把自己搞大了
别人们小了？ |
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发帖数: 8613 | 96 mariupol
乌军被分成了3块
2个钢铁厂各一块
港口区一块，正变得越来越小/挤 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 98 顿涅斯克国总统到邻国边境镇探访并升苏联攻占柏林胜利旗
Secretary General Turchak and the head of DVR Pushilin are located in the
Saporisch region, the settlement of the city of Rozivka, and communicated
with the General Secretary Turchak and the head of DPR Pushilin are already
in the Zaporizhia region, the urban-type settlement of Rozivka with local
residents Secretary General Turchak and Chairman of the DPR Pushylin already
in the Zaporizhia region SMT Rozivka communication with local residents |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 99 mariupol
当地居民帮助俄顿联军
在乌军住（过）的地方做了标识
说乌军只有轻武器了
可能有国际军人遗留物
The area of the Taganrog highway, where all forces are now
thrown to storm the Azovstal plant. Ukrainian militants occupy the
industrial area and part of the residential sector. According to the
military, during the offensive of the Russian troops and the army of the DPR
, local residents marked the houses where the national battalions were
stationed with badges, for the convenience of our guys moving forward. To
date, according to the military, the national battalions have practically no
heavy weapons and artillery left, only small arms. In many positions there
is no longer any return fire from the militants, the Nazis were well pressed
. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 100 乌军到居民区发放食物
有位老妇以为说俄军
拿出攻占柏林的苏军胜利旗迎接他们
一个乌军士兵拿过去用脚踩着它
老妇拒绝了食物 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 101 车臣省命有效的夺街打法
坦克或装甲车打完后，可能这是一种主要打法了 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 104 俄增兵
渡Seversky Donets河
应该是izyum地区
河所在的盆地可能都是俄方最后想控制的
它从俄罗斯境内的bolgrod（就是最近被袭击城市）所在地区
到kharhiv
不远一路折东南长驱入俄国境内的顿河
因此沿途周边是说俄语人口较多的地区 |
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 105 乌克兰人就是这么阿Q
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 乌军汉
: 送了
: 普京
: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i2Ich6lC4rg
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 106 可惜没有英文字幕
对付着看吧
实际内容是前2天的
跟随顿涅斯克国民军“索马里营”
在azovstal钢铁厂附近最后一块高楼区外围
The wargonzo project spent the whole day together with the fighters of the
legendary Donbass battalion "Somalia" in Mariupol. In our special report,
for the first time, we will show the real everyday life of attack aircraft,
as well as the work of self-propelled guns, tanks and automatic grenade
launchers in urban areas. Unfortunately, not all the heroes of this video
lived to see its publication. Killed "Java" - one of the most desperate "
Somali" attack aircraft. We will definitely show footage with him separately
, and now you have the opportunity to immerse yourself in the atmosphere of
the Mariupol front. |
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发帖数: 8613 | 110 azovtal 钢铁厂
很可惜
也是没有英文字幕
面积特别大
俄方可能会把一些容易通外的渠道掐死
现在主要就是高楼区和周边（靠城中央河谷和原本可以过河的M14公路）
这很可能是最近的情况了
似乎已经进了很外围的厂区
0:40开始
对核心区炮轰和射小榴弹等等还得持续相当长的时间
守军基本只是在被动死守
因此暂时没有什么直接冲突了 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 111 大概1星期前，俄军就发出警告，让民众离开乌东和周边未来大战区
那时就该开跑（我好几天前说过这）
几天前，可能是由于完全失去izyum后地区大俄军仍然在大增
乌方当地政府也开始让女人、老人和孩子们逃命
现在坐火车是最安全的
但是每日只有2班车？？？？？ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 112 俄军从izyum向外推进，包括向乌东
这是在威胁顿巴斯稳固防区的几万乌军的后路/补给干道 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 115 之前说过：kherson地区是最有预期性的地区
俄军在那的核心区域是2大桥所在城市和之间
以及周边的大片地区
核心区的战略意义极其重要，是不可失地区
如果未来俄军想拿下odessa，必须拿下nikolaiv或它的绕道区
俄最早想拿下nikolaiv，但是能力或者军力不够
大受挫后自动退回到核心区域
从此双方基本是在相持
2军主力之间地势平坦而开阔，乌军肯定埋了不少雷
（在kherson地区南部乌军埋了很多，数万。之前发过俄军工程兵部队排雷视频）
往北较远处，俄军没有多少兵力
派了大概2个营人数的兵力在试探，为可能的未来做准备
而俄军在kherson地区兵力充足，比乌军在nikolaiv到kherson的兵力高几倍
有：
第7军团
第7空降师
和几个师或旅
至少有几万以上的人
因此乌军现在的分布，绝无能力攻击kherson的核心地区
乌军最精锐的部队基本都在乌东和周边，也有部分在基辅和kharkiv
不同于俄军，他们没法做较快的大调动---即使战况允许
因此，kherson地区没有很大谈头
四大地区/地方：
izyum （活跃）
mariupol （活跃，半解决后，1万多军队就可以做10天左右休整然后进入其它地区）
乌东 （活跃）
kharkiv （半之半活跃） |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 116 mariupol
港口区
乌军三块中最薄弱者
海边的灯塔楼地区建筑弹痕累累慎重残缺
高地，极好观察周边，容易看到地区和海上过往直升机
“控制了70%（海滩/边区？）。。。
他们从地壕逃走。。。丢下了武器。。。打狙击。。。带着轻武器。。。
逃入港口
我们两天左右解决他们。。。”
Units of the NM DPR entered the Mariupol port and started cleaning it up.
According to our data, most of the territory is already under the control of
the Donbass fighters. Before going directly to the port, the 5th brigade of
the NM of the DPR liberated the strategic height on which the lighthouse is
located. Watch right now a special broadcast from the former observation
post of Ukrainian border guards. |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 117 第110贴中视频有了字幕
“数十栋管理建筑。。。
自供的水电系统不再工作。。。azov没有水供了。。。
他们通过直升机和船只撤离的尝试被消。。。
估计里面有3000人。。。
特种部队多群人进入了工厂。。。
” |
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发帖数: 8613 | 120 mariupol
在高层建筑区清零的车臣办公部队 |
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A******e
发帖数: 655 | 123 这些人对生死都已经麻木了
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: mariupol
: 弹雨声中的淡定
|
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发帖数: 8613 | 124 Foreign journalists denied Ukraine's statements about the situation in
Borodyanka.
“The picture here is completely different,” - this is how foreign
journalists refuted the statements of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine
about the situation in Borodyanka. RT published a recording of a telephone
conversation between foreign correspondents who visited the village of
Borodyanka, which came under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Journalists in the conversation noted that the town was destroyed, but there
were no bodies of the dead on the street. No one knows about some
executions, which the Prosecutor General of Ukraine spoke about. “I just
spoke to a police forensic expert, and he told me on the record that nothing
of the kind was seen here: there were no deaths, no executions […]. I also
spoke to a few old women and they said that the Russian military treated
them kindly, gave them food, water... So the picture here is completely
different.” From Prosecutor General to Fake Throwers |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 125 俄地面的步随甲合成兵队在试图推进
3:45
没有确定目标时
发了火的步兵朝敌方向射流弹
作为一种火力压制远处对方炮的
可能可能可能的
小补充 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 127 顿涅斯克国民军指挥官
“我们已经很久不畏惧无怜悯
你们会被我们做主。。。假若你们还有向俄军投降的机会
俄兵们礼貌且善良，我们不是
我们会冲着你们来。。。我们。。。胜利。。。
我单独表示感谢我的战士们
我不可思议地幸运在这个营，
有顿涅斯克的高等学府的老师们，尽管他们不是军人
他们从我这学得很快，而让我们有最好的一个战斗单元
他们累计的工作使得指挥官的主要工作和我的工作会变得最少
谢谢我的伙计们
我有最棒的人
我们是去取胜
敌军将败
那就是正等待我们的“ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 128 我在10几个小时前提到的那个挤满了人的
Kramatorsk的火车站被
Tochka-u导弹炸
这是带很多儿子弹的
上次在顿涅斯克城死了不少平民
那次是乌军干的
这次呢？双方肯定都会否认，互相指责对方
慎入
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jgwh3lnS9b4 |
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发帖数: 8613 | 129 俄军对火车站轰炸的指责
🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing of the Russian Ministry of
Defense (04/08/2022)
◽️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to
conduct a special military operation in Ukraine.
💥On the afternoon of April 8, high-precision air-launched missiles
destroyed a large depot of rocket and artillery weapons near the village of
Nimirovskoye, Odessa region. Aviation equipment of the Ukrainian armed
forces was also destroyed at the Kanatovo military airfield in the
Kirovograd region.
💥Operational-tactical aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces hit
54 military facilities of Ukraine. Among them: a command post, two fuel
depots, a field ammunition depot, two installations of multiple launch
rocket systems, as well as 45 strongholds and areas of concentration of
Ukrainian military equipment.
💥Russian air defense systems shot down a Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft in
the air near the village of Novomikhailovka.
📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation,
126 aircraft, 421 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,024 tanks and other armored
combat vehicles, 225 multiple rocket launchers, 876 field artillery pieces
and mortars, as well as 1,923 units of special military vehicles have been
destroyed.
◽️Today, April 8, the Ukrainian armed forces launched a strike
with a Tochka-U tactical missile at the railway station of the city of
Kramatorsk.
◽️Tactical missiles "Tochka-U", the fragments of which were
found near the railway station of Kramatorsk, are used only by the Ukrainian
armed forces.
❗️I want to note that the maximum range of the Tochka-U
missile is 120 km. The mass of the warhead is 482 kg and contains 20
fragmentation submunitions, each 7.5 kilograms, forming about 16 thousand
fragments.
◽️An analysis of the radius of destruction of the warhead, as
well as the characteristic position of the body of the tail section of the
Tochka-U missile, unambiguously confirm that it was launched from a
southwestern direction from Kramatorsk.
◽️According to available intelligence data, one of the
divisions of the 19th missile brigade, armed with Tochka-U missile systems
at the time of the strike on Kramatorsk, was located in the area of &
#8203;the settlement of Dobropolye, Donetsk region, 45 km
southwest of Kramatorsk. This area is still under the full control of the
Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass.
◽️I want to emphasize that the Ukrainian armed forces still
have a significant arsenal of Tochka-U missiles.
◽️Before the start of the special military operation, the Kiev
regime had at its disposal 20 Tochka-U missile systems, which included two
launchers each.
◽️During the special military operation, 8 Ukrainian Tochki-U
launchers and about 90 percent of the missiles in the arsenals were
destroyed.
◽️However, the threat of the Kiev regime continuing to carry
out provocations and rocket attacks on settlements with civilians remains
high.
◽️The joint operation of the group of troops of the Donetsk
People's Republic and units of the Russian armed forces continues to
completely liberate the city of Mariupol.
◽️The results of radio interceptions show that in addition to
the Nazis from the Azov Battalion and the remnants of the Ukrainian armed
forces, there are a significant number of foreign mercenaries in the
occupied areas of the city. Radio conversations, in addition to Ukrainian
and Russian, are conducted in six more, mostly European foreign languages.
◽️Obviously, it is not the defenders of the so-called "European
values" that are now blocked in the city, but foreign mercenaries. Arrived
to kill the Slavs for American dollars, hiding behind a "human shield" of
civilians.
◽️The Kyiv nationalist regime refused to withdraw the militants
from Mariupol.
◽️With this in mind, the city will be unconditionally liberated
by the troops of the Donetsk People's Republic and units of the Russian
armed forces.
Ministry of Defense of Russia
5 hrs ·
⚡️Statement by Russian Defence Ministry
▫️In order to accuse Russia of an alleged missile strike on
Kramatorsk railway station, Kiev regime has posted on social media pictures
of Tochka-U missile launchers that took part in "Union Courage 2022"
Russian-Belarusian exercise inFebruary.
▫️Please note, all photos published by Kiev from "Union Courage
2022" exercise show non-Russian missile systems.
▫️Tochka-U tactical missiles whose wreckage was found near
Kramatorsk railway station are used only by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
▫️According to clarified information, the strike on Kramatorsk
railway station was carried out by missile division of the Ukrainian armed
forces from area of Dobropol’e, 45 kilometres south-west of the city.
▫️The aim of Kiev regime's strike on the railway station in
Kramatorsk was to disrupt the mass exit of residents from the city in order
to use them as a "human shield" to defend Ukrainian armed forces positions,
as in many other Ukrainian population centres.
Ministry of Defense of Russia
7 hrs ·
⚡️Statement of the Russian Ministry of Defense
◽️In order to accuse Russia of an alleged missile attack on the
Kramatorsk railway station, the Kiev regime uploaded to social networks
photos of Tochka-U launchers, which were hosted in February 2022 in the
Russian-Belarusian exercise "Allied Resolve-2022".
◽️Please note that all photographs from the Allied Resolve-2022
exercises published by Kiev do not depict Russian missile systems.
◽️Tactical missiles "Tochka-U", the fragments of which were
found near the railway station of Kramatorsk, are used only by the Ukrainian
armed forces.
◽️According to updated data, the strike on the railway station
of Kramatorsk was carried out by a missile division of the Ukrainian armed
forces from the area of the settlement of
Dobropolye, 45 kilometers southwest of the city.
◽️The purpose of the Kiev regime’s attack on the railway
station in Kramatorsk was to disrupt the mass exodus of residents from the
city in order to use them as a “human shield” to defend the positions of
the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as in many other settlements of Ukraine.
Ministry of Defense of Russia
9 hrs ·
⚡️The Russian Ministry of Defense refutes the statements of the
Kiev regime about the alleged missile strike on the railway station of
Kramatorsk in the Donetsk region on April 8
◽️ All statements by representatives of the Kiev nationalist
regime about the “rocket attack” allegedly carried out by Russia on April
8 at the railway station in the city of Kramatorsk are a provocation and are
absolutely untrue.
◽️ On April 8, the Russian armed forces did not have any fire
missions in the city of Kramatorsk and were not planned.
◽️ We emphasize in particular that the Tochka-U tactical
missiles, the fragments of which were found near the railway station of
Kramatorsk and published by eyewitnesses, are used only by the Ukrainian
armed forces.
◽️ On March 14, 2022, a division of the 19th separate missile
brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked the center of Donetsk with a
similar Tochka-U missile, killing 17 people on the spot and injuring
another 36 civilians. |
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 130 Kherson马上就要也来一颗了
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 我在10几个小时前提到的那个挤满了人的
: Kramatorsk的火车站被
: Tochka-u导弹炸
: 这是带很多儿子弹的
: 上次在顿涅斯克城死了不少平民
: 那次是乌军干的
: 这次呢？双方肯定都会否认，互相指责对方
: 慎入
: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jgwh3lnS9b4
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 131 俄军早前的战报
顿涅斯克北部前线
53+54+25+30+24一线依次诸旅被继续松动
（由于53旅最早大伤后退而被暴露、而25旅也被逼退而2翼都被大暴露受不轻伤的）
54旅高达一个步兵连和一个坦克排被毁，多个战斗单元在后退了
（尽管如此，俄军碰到的是坚固防区，izyum地区的发展对打垮那个大区域的乌军一直
是至为重要）
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry
▫️The grouping of troops of the Russian Armed Forces,
developing an offensive, completely blockaded Novomikhailovka and began to
mop- it up of nationalists.
▫️In pursuit of retreating units of 54th Mechanised Brigade of
the Ukrainian Armed Forces, units of the Russian Armed Forces have also
blockaded Ugledar and are now fighting to liberate it from nationalists.
During the day, up to a reinforced motorised infantry company and a tank
platoon of Ukrainian troops were destroyed in this area.
▫️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation strike at the
assets of the military infrastructure of Ukraine.
💥During the day, high-precision air-based missiles struck a cluster
of Ukrainian military equipment at Novograd-Volynskii railway station in
Zhytomir Region. This strike destroyed reserves meant to move to grouping of
Ukrainian troops in Donbass.
✈️💥Operational-tactical aviation hit 42 military assets
of Ukraine.
Among them: 1 command post, 2 field ammunition depots, 2 multiple launch
rocket systems, and 12 strong points and areas of Ukrainian military
equipment concentration.
💥Russian air defence means shot down 2 Ukrainian military
helicopters in the air: Mi-8 and Mi-24 near Kherson, as well as 3 unmanned
aerial vehicles, including 2 Bayraktar TB-2s near Krivoi Rog and Trudovoi.
📊In total, 125 aircfaft and 95 helicopters, 416 unmanned aerial
vehicles, 2,003 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 220 multiple launch
rocket systems, 869 field artillery and mortars, as well as 1,902 units of
special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed
during the operation. |
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发帖数: 8613 | 133 Kamyanka
离izyum几公里往刚被轰炸的kramatosk火车站方向的路上
“我军。。。在此大村大休息。。。多天前撤退的多类乌军，包括民族主义构制的民兵
，实施了一贯的焦土政策” |
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发帖数: 8613 | 134 俄族乌奸
人类啊
their pills are the others‘ poisons
Grandmothers from Mariupol rejoice at the arrival of the Russian military
Irina Makarova, a resident of Mariupol, now lives in the basement; In the
city center, she collects firewood from the destroyed drama theater, says
that she is happy because the columns and figures on the building survived.
“We were waiting for you to be released by our people. Ours!” says Irina
Vladimirovna. Now in Mariupol there is still no connection - local residents
can not contact their relatives in any way to tell them that they are alive
. Therefore, when meeting with Readovka special correspondent Kirill Imashev
, the grandmothers were delighted - they hope that their relatives will see
them and be calm for their health. |
D******1
发帖数: 1 | 135 为什么不一开始就集中重兵全力围攻顿巴斯？
基辅那条线路打得毫无意义！白白损失那么多人员装备。可怜那么多俄罗斯帅小伙死于
非命。还捅出不插这么个大篓子。现在有口难辩。感觉这帮最高层指挥官水平还不如我！
【在 w********9 的大作中提到】
: 俄军早前的战报
: 顿涅斯克北部前线
: 53+54+25+30+24一线依次诸旅被继续松动
: （由于53旅最早大伤后退而被暴露、而25旅也被逼退而2翼都被大暴露受不轻伤的）
: 54旅高达一个步兵连和一个坦克排被毁，多个战斗单元在后退了
: （尽管如此，俄军碰到的是坚固防区，izyum地区的发展对打垮那个大区域的乌军一直
: 是至为重要）
: https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
: 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry
: ▫️The grouping of troops of the Russian Armed Forces,
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 136 mariupol
“如果我们的小武器没法清零，我们就等炮和空中火力来帮我们敲掉各类障碍。。。” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 137 azbostal钢铁厂地区
前一天的情况
“azov损伤严重，渣土变得基本是黑色了。。。
很可能有地下通道的一些口子方便他们被击后撤离。。。
我估计俺们控制了城市的70%。。。
我是接受动员自愿参战。。。
事事都将会好
将来我会像从前一样回家工作。。。“ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 138 工程兵部队清除azovstal钢铁厂附近的街面
清零部队查寻乌军曾用住处或窝点
检查适龄男人是否有新纳粹或极右翼纹身 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 140 乌军战报
Head-on battles inflicted on the enemy from 24.02 to 08.04 approximately
folded
special warehouse - close to 19000 osib,
tanks - 700 od,
combat armored vehicles - 1891 od,
artillery systems - 333 od,
RSZV - 108 od,
sobi PPO - 55 od,
litakiv - 150 od,
helicopters - 135 od,
automotive equipment - 1361 od,
ships / boats - 7 ods,
tanks with PMM - 76,
Operational-tactical UAV - 112.
Special equipment - 25.
Launchers OTRK - 4.
Data are being specified. The pidrakhunok is aggravated by the high
intensity of combat action. |
A******e
发帖数: 655 | 141 十则围之，五则攻之，倍则分之
俄军的力量没有强到是乌军的五倍和十倍，分而治之，还是解释得通的
他们确实一直是这样打的，就连在mariupol也是先把乌军隔在东西两个工厂两块，先打
下其中一个，然后再集中兵力对付另外一块，战术上没什么太大问题。中国人看三国看
太多了，总以为自己是诸葛孔明，其实真正的战争都是这么老老实实一步一个脚印打的。
现在俄军在打Azovstal之前先派工兵扫peripheral找地道口，很谨慎，当然也可以很毒
，看你怎么使用这些地道口了
另外俄军本来说自己只是维和部队，不主动下场。就连现在mariupol的车臣军也号称“
志愿军”的说
我！
【在 D******1 的大作中提到】
: 为什么不一开始就集中重兵全力围攻顿巴斯？
: 基辅那条线路打得毫无意义！白白损失那么多人员装备。可怜那么多俄罗斯帅小伙死于
: 非命。还捅出不插这么个大篓子。现在有口难辩。感觉这帮最高层指挥官水平还不如我！
|
D******1
发帖数: 1 | 142 我说的是打基辅这个问题。现在回头看感觉是彻底的失败
基辅那么大，没有100万兵力打不下来
结果派个几万人，还孤军深入，补给线不断遭到伏击。围又围不住。不断遭到伏击。却
又一次次派小股部队去做自杀性冲锋。每次都被伏击。还不长记性，不吸取教训。最后
几乎被反包围。人困马乏，狼狈撤退。
结果是没有达成任何实质性战略目标。白白损失那么多士兵的生命。那可都是俄军的精
华啊。当初一早把这些部队就派往顿巴斯猛攻，估计现在进展会打很多。而且因为这是
从根据地往前线一点点推，在后方被伏击偷袭的机会就小很多。不至于损失那么惨烈的。
的。
【在 A******e 的大作中提到】
: 十则围之，五则攻之，倍则分之
: 俄军的力量没有强到是乌军的五倍和十倍，分而治之，还是解释得通的
: 他们确实一直是这样打的，就连在mariupol也是先把乌军隔在东西两个工厂两块，先打
: 下其中一个，然后再集中兵力对付另外一块，战术上没什么太大问题。中国人看三国看
: 太多了，总以为自己是诸葛孔明，其实真正的战争都是这么老老实实一步一个脚印打的。
: 现在俄军在打Azovstal之前先派工兵扫peripheral找地道口，很谨慎，当然也可以很毒
: ，看你怎么使用这些地道口了
: 另外俄军本来说自己只是维和部队，不主动下场。就连现在mariupol的车臣军也号称“
: 志愿军”的说
:
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 143 如前所说：
根据双方在当地的军力明显差异，俄军不会丢掉Kherson地区
俄军沿河向北所占区域已经远远过了那里的2个桥区和大周边
乌军在Kherson地区只会有些稍扰战，俄军烦了就会稍微往外出击一下
kherson和nikolaiv地区是沿河地区最反俄的地区，因此俄方必须稳定住kherson的局势
，等待更多的兵力才能继续沿海攻像odessa（这种可能很大，否则kherson在比较久的
将来可能会受到在人力和火力大大加强了的乌军不断的攻击）
整体战局上，俄无疑是进攻方，是战局走向的主，乌克兰差不多只是反应性地在应对
现在比较平静，但明显在准备大升级中
重复：未来战区的平民撤离和天气情况都会是大因素
如果未来战局对俄军变得越来越不利，俄军才会：
轰击更多的铁路和公路线，主要会是枢纽和桥梁等等“瓶颈”设施
比如：：：：：：：
基辅对外的所有桥梁
跨大河的所有大桥（这样就会让大河东边的乌军补给，尤其军事上的，变得极其困难）
河内的所有较大船只都会是被打击目标
。。。 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 144 对了，这两天俄军在kherson南部靠海拿下了2个村庄。
就是由于乌军在那里稍扰把俄军弄烦了。。。
还有，Kherson是被军管，俄方派有特种警察部队在那里
wargonzo人/俄军确实进了港口
“控制了70%。。。在管理区还在打。。。” |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 145 俄方，应该是顿涅斯克国民军，对azovstal钢铁厂使用最大的排击炮 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 146 必须打下mariupol是为了疏通俄军的南部大后方
其次是把那里的兵力在将来投入到其它地方
版面上都在说进攻方的人力一般是防守方的3倍
还有一种说法：包围大城市方是对方的好几倍
这些说法都是老掉牙的说法，是双方人力和火力状况比较接近的情况下的一种估计
例外很多
城市的状况都会很不一样
有的城市可能有个大的瓶颈（比如水源），被消死后城市不攻自破，只是时间长短的问题
俄方应该只会去用力试图拿下比较小的“枢纽性”城市，甚至不会是所有这类城市
而只会选择最关键的此类
不难拿下一般的村庄，除非像是很多乌东设置了地壕和掩体等等牢固防线的那种
拿下高楼很少的小城镇不难
重复：拿下有很大软肋/瓶颈的小城镇也不难
比如没有天然（比如河流）和人工防御设施防护的。。。
俄军的最大绝对优势是：多种火力上
它一直在尽量发挥这种优势，大大减少了对进攻所需人力的需求
激战区的轰击频率非常高
乌东有些地方有乌军地壕的开阔平地上到处是弹坑，非常密集
大多数地方会是缓慢的土地转交（不一定总会是有利于俄方）
但俄方会找出或选择弱点，集中力量重点攻破。。。这样地不断做下去
久了，小战果的积累效果就慢慢会被显现出来 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 149 lubizhne
乌军也被迫进了工业区
俄军在乌东的一些新区的支持率显然很高
看过一个报道：被炸的Kramatorsk在当年公投，大多数人支持进顿涅斯克共和国 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 156 在俄军火力的支持下，
卢甘斯克国民解放军从乌克兰民族国军那里夺下了一块高阵地 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 157 车臣人在顿巴斯北部前线
hmmm最近的视频里尸体有些多
难免了 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 159 俄船民见到同胞了
之前与乌军和乌船民相处还行
这船上有些弹洞
有条船大破了 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 161 kharkiv地区
俄军大车队
rock and roll |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 165 azovstal钢铁厂
一弹就把制高点轰成了非人区 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 166 mariupol
直升机和坦克配合
让乌军和装甲车辆在街区和房屋里无处可躲 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 167 卢甘斯克popasna附近
4:05
大片地里有非常密集的弹坑
此地乌军曾经的防线很难被攻破
地壕、地垒、地道。。。
俄军的倾泻的各种弹雨肯定让乌军感到非常可怕 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 168 现在说突厥产的tb2无人机的视频少了
乌克兰损失了不少
我查了一下
俄军战报里共计大概49架
原来总共70多？
新货到了前方乌军的手里了吗？ |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 169 azovstal钢铁厂
部分海军陆战队兵在晚间投降
之前视频里有过狗在战场看热闹
这次有乌军带狗投降 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 170 我查了好几个进展图
liveuamap的很不准，俄军撤走多天后还没弄清楚
isw的最不准，是3个书呆子写的东西，其中有个是乌克兰人
此人的最准
不准的地方是最最前线，但不影响大/粗况
在细节上会有大问题，比如mariupol的进展
当然，我的这些结论的根据都是有“马后炮”性质的
世界上没人很清楚战场最前线每处的细节和所属性
对所属性的定性往往就有主观的味道 |
w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 171 俄军战报
乌方趁黑夜冒用马耳它名义想在海上用船冒死带走azovtal钢铁厂的azov高管
被多次警告后的船被黑海舰队轰破起火后就老实了。。。
https://www.facebook.com/mod.mil.rus/
🇷🇺🇺🇦Briefing of the Russian Ministry of
Defense (04/09/2022)
◽The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a
special military operation in Ukraine.
💥During the day, operational-tactical aviation of the Russian
Aerospace Forces and missile forces hit 65 military facilities of Ukraine.
Among them: four command posts and communication centers, three warehouses
for logistics, as well as 41 strong points and areas of concentration of
Ukrainian military equipment.
💥Russian air defense systems shot down three Ukrainian unmanned
aerial vehicles in the air: two in the areas of the settlements of Mariupol
and Kalininskoye, and one more, Bayraktar TB-2, in the area of
;the settlement of Sakhnovshchina, Kharkiv region.
📊In total, since the beginning of the special military operation,
127 aircraft, 98 helicopters, 428 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,037 tanks and
other armored combat vehicles, 229 multiple rocket launchers, 886 field
artillery pieces and mortars, as well as 1,941 units of special military
vehicles have been destroyed. .
◽The Kyiv regime does not abandon attempts to evacuate the leaders of
the nationalist Azov regiment and foreign mercenaries from Mariupol.
Previous actions to remove them by air by helicopters failed.
◽On the evening of April 8, the Kiev regime made a new unsuccessful
attempt to evacuate the leaders of the Ukrainian Nazis by sea. At night, the
Ukrainian dry cargo vessel "Apache", assigned to the Maltese port of
Valletta, under the Maltese flag followed in a caravan of ships from the
Taganrog Bay to the Kerch Strait.
◽At 22:38 Moscow time, 30 km southeast of Mariupol, the dry cargo ship
abruptly changed course and tried to break into the Mariupol seaport
blocked from the sea by the forces of the Black Sea Fleet.
◽The Ukrainian dry cargo ship did not respond to the demands of the
Russian border ships to communicate via the international channel,
continuing to move in the direction of the port of Mariupol.
◽Warning artillery fire, carried out by two border patrol ships along
the ship's course, did not lead to a change in course and a slowdown in the
speed of the dry cargo ship.
◽During the movement to the port of Mariupol, the ship conducted a
radio exchange, transmitting messages "I am a Maniac, I am coming to you."
At the same time, signal fires were observed on the shore.
◽To block the movement of the offending vessel from 22.53 to 23.30,
the Black Sea Fleet ship and border patrol ships opened artillery fire on
the Apache dry cargo ship. As a result of a direct hit on the vessel, a fire
broke out in the stern of the vessel.
◽After that, the Ukrainian dry cargo ship drifted, the crew contacted
the border ships with a request to cease fire and confirmed their readiness
to fulfill all the requirements of the Russian sailors.
◽As a result of the fire impact, there were no casualties among the
crew members on the ship. The ship's crew extinguished the fire on their own
. After the inspection, the Ukrainian dry cargo ship "Apache" with the crew
is escorted to the port of Yeysk. |
