w****j
发帖数: 5581 | 1 坏消息，MD对TG的潜艇很是看不起啊，后果严重了。
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/china-submarines/#more-
“The military’s latest secret assessment of China’s rapidly modernizing
submarines has good news and bad news for the U.S. Navy. On one hand, the
roughly 60 submarines in the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) fleet are
spending more and more time on combat-ready patrols — signaling China’s
increasing naval competence and growing seriousness about influencing the
western Pacific Ocean.
On the other hand, the flurry of undersea activity gives American forces
more opportunities to tail and examine Chinese subs. And U.S. analysts
discovered a silver lining in the gathering strategic storm clouds. Chinese
submarines are a hell of a lot noisier than anyone expected. The sound you
hear is the Pacific balance of power tipping in Washington’s favor.”
“Leaving aside the PLAN’s dozen imported Russian subs, new Chinese
submarines can be detected at what’s known as the “first convergence zone,
” a ring approximately 25 miles from an undersea vessel where outward-
traveling sound waves pack close together." |
w****j
发帖数: 5581 | 2 最后两段是这么总结的：
Assuming the Chinese stay with their current sub designs, American
submarines should be capable of swiftly defeating Chinese boats in any
potential future shooting war — helping clear the way for U.S. aircraft
carriers to strike Chinese land targets. Combined with a slowdown in Chinese
sub production, and the recent doubling of America’s submarine build-rate,
the noise revelation could lead to a radical recalculation of the Pacific
balance of power.
The U.S. Navy had a comfortable technological lead over the PLAN even before
the increased Chinese sub activity fueled the recent intelligence coup. Now
that lead has gotten even wider. And noisier.
也就是说在潜艇战方面，MD遥遥领先，对TG的水下战斗力嗤之以鼻。而且MD将据此对中
国的海上利益进行进一步的挤压。
are
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 坏消息，MD对TG的潜艇很是看不起啊，后果严重了。
: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/china-submarines/#more-
: “The military’s latest secret assessment of China’s rapidly modernizing
: submarines has good news and bad news for the U.S. Navy. On one hand, the
: roughly 60 submarines in the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) fleet are
: spending more and more time on combat-ready patrols — signaling China’s
: increasing naval competence and growing seriousness about influencing the
: western Pacific Ocean.
: On the other hand, the flurry of undersea activity gives American forces
: more opportunities to tail and examine Chinese subs. And U.S. analysts
|
s****r
发帖数: 31686 | 3 上回土共在海上搞到的日本消声瓦不是说少走弯路20年么， 怎么回事？
Chinese
rate,
before
Now
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 最后两段是这么总结的：
: Assuming the Chinese stay with their current sub designs, American
: submarines should be capable of swiftly defeating Chinese boats in any
: potential future shooting war — helping clear the way for U.S. aircraft
: carriers to strike Chinese land targets. Combined with a slowdown in Chinese
: sub production, and the recent doubling of America’s submarine build-rate,
: the noise revelation could lead to a radical recalculation of the Pacific
: balance of power.
: The U.S. Navy had a comfortable technological lead over the PLAN even before
: the increased Chinese sub activity fueled the recent intelligence coup. Now
|
s*m
发帖数: 1896 | 4 以前差40年，现在缩小到20年了
【在 s****r 的大作中提到】
: 上回土共在海上搞到的日本消声瓦不是说少走弯路20年么， 怎么回事？
:
: Chinese
: rate,
: before
: Now
|
w****j
发帖数: 5581 | 5 本来MD估计TG潜艇技术落后20年，现在发现严重高估TG了。
【在 s*m 的大作中提到】
: 以前差40年，现在缩小到20年了
|
s*m
发帖数: 1896 | 6 别急，也许我共在下大旗，故意忽悠丫的。。。
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 本来MD估计TG潜艇技术落后20年，现在发现严重高估TG了。
|
w****j
发帖数: 5581 | 7 已经有人替TG缓颊说是巡逻时的噪音和战时的噪音不一样...
【在 s*m 的大作中提到】
: 别急，也许我共在下大旗，故意忽悠丫的。。。
|
t******t
发帖数: 15246 | 8 也有可能是外面放几艘噪音大的，里面夹杂我军最新型静音潜艇，这样可以作为掩护
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 已经有人替TG缓颊说是巡逻时的噪音和战时的噪音不一样...
|
w**s
发帖数: 1911 | 9 noise generator
【在 t******t 的大作中提到】
: 也有可能是外面放几艘噪音大的，里面夹杂我军最新型静音潜艇，这样可以作为掩护
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s**d
发帖数: 18498 | |
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q***3
发帖数: 5088 | 11 其实都是静音的，噪音大的估计是老黑当船长。
【在 t******t 的大作中提到】
: 也有可能是外面放几艘噪音大的，里面夹杂我军最新型静音潜艇，这样可以作为掩护
|
h*******u
发帖数: 15326 | 12 GRE逻辑题，发现的都是噪音大的，噪音小的能发现么？
are
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 坏消息，MD对TG的潜艇很是看不起啊，后果严重了。
: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/china-submarines/#more-
: “The military’s latest secret assessment of China’s rapidly modernizing
: submarines has good news and bad news for the U.S. Navy. On one hand, the
: roughly 60 submarines in the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) fleet are
: spending more and more time on combat-ready patrols — signaling China’s
: increasing naval competence and growing seriousness about influencing the
: western Pacific Ocean.
: On the other hand, the flurry of undersea activity gives American forces
: more opportunities to tail and examine Chinese subs. And U.S. analysts
|
t*n
发帖数: 14458 | 13 米帝有新一代潜艇设计么
最后两段是这么总结的：
Assuming the Chinese stay with their current sub designs, American
submarines should be capable of swiftly defeating Chinese boats in any
potential future shooting war — helping clear the way for U.S. aircraft
carriers to strike Chinese land targets. Combined with a slowdown in Chinese
sub production, and the recent doubling of America’s submarine build-rate,
the noise revelation could lead to a radical recalculation of the Pacific
balance of power.
The U.S. Navy had a comfortable technological lead over the PLAN even before
the increased Chinese sub activity fueled the recent intelligence coup. Now
that lead has gotten even wider. And noisier.
也就是说在潜艇战方面，MD遥遥领先，对TG的水下战斗力嗤之以鼻。而且MD将据此对中
国的海上利益进行进一步的挤压。
are
【在 w****j 的大作中提到】
: 最后两段是这么总结的：
: Assuming the Chinese stay with their current sub designs, American
: submarines should be capable of swiftly defeating Chinese boats in any
: potential future shooting war — helping clear the way for U.S. aircraft
: carriers to strike Chinese land targets. Combined with a slowdown in Chinese
: sub production, and the recent doubling of America’s submarine build-rate,
: the noise revelation could lead to a radical recalculation of the Pacific
: balance of power.
: The U.S. Navy had a comfortable technological lead over the PLAN even before
: the increased Chinese sub activity fueled the recent intelligence coup. Now
|
o***o
发帖数: 203 | 14 土共的093,094本来就不先进，只不过96年被颜射以后老江发急了，是把散掉的人马聚
起来。不过既然项目已经一个一个开展起来了，迎头赶上只是时间问题。 |
c**a
发帖数: 67 | 15 估计发现的是明-目前数量任然很多
话说不久前，一个宋从离MD航母几个海里的地方浮起来了怎么解释？ |
l********k
发帖数: 14844 | 16 跟水雷一样，蹲守了好几个月？
【在 c**a 的大作中提到】
: 估计发现的是明-目前数量任然很多
: 话说不久前，一个宋从离MD航母几个海里的地方浮起来了怎么解释？
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h******8
发帖数: 3778 | |
c**a
发帖数: 67 | 18 海狼级？有3艘
Chinese
rate,
before
【在 t*n 的大作中提到】
: 米帝有新一代潜艇设计么
:
: 最后两段是这么总结的：
: Assuming the Chinese stay with their current sub designs, American
: submarines should be capable of swiftly defeating Chinese boats in any
: potential future shooting war — helping clear the way for U.S. aircraft
: carriers to strike Chinese land targets. Combined with a slowdown in Chinese
: sub production, and the recent doubling of America’s submarine build-rate,
: the noise revelation could lead to a radical recalculation of the Pacific
: balance of power.
|
R*I
发帖数: 1840 | 19 恩，后面就是佛吉尼亚级了。
降噪声的确不是一日之功，土共反应堆技术本来就不咋地，关键还是团队要有项目做，
就像成飞那样，总会追上来的。土共追赶毕竟还是容易一些，到了美帝这种拔剑四顾的
境界才是比较难的。
【在 c**a 的大作中提到】
: 海狼级？有3艘
:
: Chinese
: rate,
: before
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c**a
发帖数: 67 | 20 明和宋是封锁弯弯和吓唬南海岛国的
KILO和元是和美日韩玩的
【在 s**d 的大作中提到】
: 土共的明和宋都指不上
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t*n
发帖数: 14458 | 21 是啊
海狼只造了三艘然后剩下用减弱版的佛吉尼亚替了
如果米帝没有更新的设计，土共虽然差距大，也还是不断追赶缩小差距么
海狼级？有3艘
Chinese
rate,
before
【在 c**a 的大作中提到】
: 海狼级？有3艘
:
: Chinese
: rate,
: before
|
q******g
发帖数: 3858 | |
s****r
发帖数: 31686 | 23 肯定是的， 土共搞了几十年 了 ， 应该（！）不是开玩笑的
【在 q******g 的大作中提到】
: 噪音小的，MD没发现？
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B*********t
发帖数: 147 | |
s****h
发帖数: 3979 | 25 10几年前的老架空文，从春秋走向战国，都说过这个问题了
TG潜艇上装噪声发生器，要玩真的，就把那玩意一关，呵呵 |
h******8
发帖数: 3778 | |
