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g******a
发帖数: 4774
1
收到1099表,
但网上资讯有说低于$X千可以不报税,
以前问过会计师说可以不用报税。
哪种准确?
还是一定要加入家庭报税吗?
谢谢!
c*****h
发帖数: 14923
2
我accountant说不要报

【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 收到1099表,
: 但网上资讯有说低于$X千可以不报税,
: 以前问过会计师说可以不用报税。
: 哪种准确?
: 还是一定要加入家庭报税吗?
: 谢谢!

r****b
发帖数: 1087
3
IRS tool: https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/do-i-need-to-file-a-tax-return
You had net earnings from self-employment of at least $400.
So yes.
p*****e
发帖数: 197
4
这个很误导。 见link.
https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/family/at-what-income-does-a-minor-have
-to-file-an-income-tax-return/L6HOdGp6i
另外,如果被预扣税了,可以file tax return把预扣税要回来。

【在 r****b 的大作中提到】
: IRS tool: https://www.irs.gov/help/ita/do-i-need-to-file-a-tax-return
: You had net earnings from self-employment of at least $400.
: So yes.

p*****e
发帖数: 197
5
另外,即使小孩报税, 只要孩子的抚养一半以上靠父母, 父母还是可以把孩子作为
dependent

have

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 这个很误导。 见link.
: https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/family/at-what-income-does-a-minor-have
: -to-file-an-income-tax-return/L6HOdGp6i
: 另外,如果被预扣税了,可以file tax return把预扣税要回来。

r****b
发帖数: 1087
6
turbotax 的link 提到:
In addition, if he earns income from self-employment, he may owe Self-
Employment Tax, which means paying both the employee’s and employer's share
of Social Security and Medicaid taxes. The trigger for Self Employment Tax
has been $400 since 1990, but the IRS may change that in the future.
so yes, 要报税。
哪有误导??!!

have

【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 这个很误导。 见link.
: https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/family/at-what-income-does-a-minor-have
: -to-file-an-income-tax-return/L6HOdGp6i
: 另外,如果被预扣税了,可以file tax return把预扣税要回来。

w***w
发帖数: 6301
7
https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/does-everyone-need-to-
file-an-income-tax-return/L7pluHkoW
主要两点:
1:
For example, in 2020, you don't need to file a tax return if all of the
following are true for you:
Under age 65
Single
Don't have any special circumstances that require you to file (like self
-employment income)
Earn less than $12,400 (which is the 2020 standard deduction for a
single taxpayer)
2.
When a dependent (child or adult) may need to file a tax return
Taxpayers who are claimed as a dependent on someone's tax return are subject
to different IRS filing requirements, regardless of whether they are
children or adults. A tax return is necessary when their earned income is
more than their standard deduction.
The standard deduction for single dependents who are under age 65 and not
blind is the greater of:
$1,100 in 2020
Or the sum of $350 + the person's earned income, up to the standard
deduction for an unclaimed single taxpayer which is $12,400 in 2020.
所以lz小孩可报可不报。
w***w
发帖数: 6301
8
link 不work。
Does Everyone Need to File an Income Tax Return?
Updated for Tax Year 2020
OVERVIEW
Not everyone is required to file an income tax return each year. Generally,
if your total income for the year doesn't exceed certain thresholds, then
you don't need to file a federal tax return. The amount of income that you
can earn before you are required to file a tax return also depends on the
type of income, your age and your filing status.
Mother and daughter having coffee and working together on their taxes.
Consider your gross income thresholds
Most taxpayers are eligible to take the standard deduction. The standard tax
deduction amounts that you're eligible for are primarily determined by your
age and filing status. These amounts are set by the government before the
tax filing season and generally increase for inflation each year.
The standard deduction, along with other available deductions, reduces your
income to determine how much of your income is taxable. As long as you don't
have a type of income that requires you to file a return for other reasons,
like self-employment income, generally you don't need to file a return as
long as your income is less than your standard deduction.
For example, in 2020, you don't need to file a tax return if all of the
following are true for you:
Under age 65
Single
Don't have any special circumstances that require you to file (like self
-employment income)
Earn less than $12,400 (which is the 2020 standard deduction for a
single taxpayer)
What if I only receive Social Security benefits?
In most cases, if you only receive Social Security benefits you wouldn't
have any taxable income and wouldn't need to file a tax return.
One catch with Social Security benefits is if you are married but file a
separate tax return from your spouse who you lived with during the year.
Then you will always have to include at least some of your Social Security
benefits in your taxable income to see if it is greater than your standard
deduction.
When Social Security benefits may be taxable
When determining whether you need to file a return and you receive Social
Security benefits, you need to consider tax-exempt income because it can
cause your benefits to be taxable even if you don't have any other taxable
income.
Here's an example of where you may need to file, even with tax-exempt income:
You are under age 65 and receive $30,000 in Social Security benefits,
but also receive another $31,000 in tax-exempt interest. $14,700 of your
Social Security benefits will be considered taxable income.
This is greater than your standard deduction ($12,400 for a single
taxpayer in 2020) and you would need to file a tax return.
To figure out if your Social Security benefits are taxable:
Add one-half of the Social Security income to all other income,
including tax-exempt interest.
Then compare that amount to the base amount for your filing status.
If the total is more than the base amount, some of your benefits may be
taxable.
TurboTax can help you estimate if you'll need to file a tax return and what
income will be taxable.
Income thresholds for taxpayers 65 and older are higher
If you are at least 65 years old, you get an increase in your standard
deduction. You also get an increased standard deduction if:
You are blind
Or your spouse is also at least 65
Or if your spouse is blind
The largest standard deduction would be for a married couple that are both
blind and both over 65 years old.
Having a larger standard deduction can allow you to have more income than
someone under age 65 and still not have to file a return. TurboTax can
help you estimate if you'll need to file a tax return and what income will
be taxable.
When a dependent (child or adult) may need to file a tax return
Taxpayers who are claimed as a dependent on someone's tax return are subject
to different IRS filing requirements, regardless of whether they are
children or adults. A tax return is necessary when their earned income is
more than their standard deduction.
The standard deduction for single dependents who are under age 65 and not
blind is the greater of:
$1,100 in 2020
Or the sum of $350 + the person's earned income, up to the standard
deduction for an unclaimed single taxpayer which is $12,400 in 2020.
A dependent's income can be "unearned" when it comes from sources such as
dividends and interest. When a dependent's unearned income is greater than $
1,100 in 2020, the dependent must file a tax return.
When you may want to submit a tax return to claim a tax refund
With all the above being said, there are years when you might not be
required to file a tax return but may want to. If you have federal taxes
withheld from your paycheck, the only way you can receive a tax refund when
too much was withheld is if you file a tax return.
For example, if you are a single taxpayer who earns $2,500 during the
year, with $300 withheld for federal tax, then you are entitled to a refund
for the entire $300 since you earned less than the standard deduction.
The IRS doesn't automatically issue refunds without a tax return, so if
you want to claim any tax refund due to you, then you should file one.
Remember, with TurboTax, we'll ask you simple questions and determine the
best filing status for you based on your answers. We’ll find every tax
deduction and credit you qualify for to get you the biggest tax refund,
guaranteed.
r****b
发帖数: 1087
9
楼上的自打嘴巴吧。
你的文中明显提到 self employment 的问题。
你为什么忽略无视呢?
楼主小孩 1099 + 打工 = self employed。
100% 是需要单独报税的。
w***w
发帖数: 6301
10
脑子不好,嘴还臭。
我归纳的两点已经讲的很清楚了。
1.需要满足4个条件。
2.dependent另外算。(不按那4个条件。)
“Taxpayers who are claimed as a dependent on someone's tax return are
subject
to different IRS filing requirements,”

【在 r****b 的大作中提到】
: 楼上的自打嘴巴吧。
: 你的文中明显提到 self employment 的问题。
: 你为什么忽略无视呢?
: 楼主小孩 1099 + 打工 = self employed。
: 100% 是需要单独报税的。

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r****b
发帖数: 1087
11
你那4个条件就有一个不满足
- Don't have any special circumstances that require you to file (like self
-employment income)
你的结论 “所以lz小孩可报可不报” 是完全错误的。

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 脑子不好,嘴还臭。
: 我归纳的两点已经讲的很清楚了。
: 1.需要满足4个条件。
: 2.dependent另外算。(不按那4个条件。)
: “Taxpayers who are claimed as a dependent on someone's tax return are
: subject
: to different IRS filing requirements,”

w***w
发帖数: 6301
12
你就没看懂我说的话。
如果光按那4个条件,lz小孩不满足。
但是下面说dependent适用不同要求,就说明lz小孩不是按那4个条件,而是用另外的条
件。并且给出是什么条件。
"The standard deduction for single dependents who are under age 65 and not
blind is the greater of:
$1,100 in 2020
Or the sum of $350 + the person's earned income, up to the standard
deduction for an unclaimed single taxpayer which is $12,400 in 2020."

【在 r****b 的大作中提到】
: 你那4个条件就有一个不满足
: - Don't have any special circumstances that require you to file (like self
: -employment income)
: 你的结论 “所以lz小孩可报可不报” 是完全错误的。

r****b
发帖数: 1087
13
我不认为dependent不按那4个条件。
文中说的另外算只是针对第四个条件(standard dedution)说的。

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 你就没看懂我说的话。
: 如果光按那4个条件,lz小孩不满足。
: 但是下面说dependent适用不同要求,就说明lz小孩不是按那4个条件,而是用另外的条
: 件。并且给出是什么条件。
: "The standard deduction for single dependents who are under age 65 and not
: blind is the greater of:
: $1,100 in 2020
: Or the sum of $350 + the person's earned income, up to the standard
: deduction for an unclaimed single taxpayer which is $12,400 in 2020."

w***w
发帖数: 6301
14
那是你自己的问题。
没人能叫醒装睡的人。

【在 r****b 的大作中提到】
: 我不认为dependent不按那4个条件。
: 文中说的另外算只是针对第四个条件(standard dedution)说的。

r****b
发帖数: 1087
15
3楼的 IRS tool 可以有明确答案。
你就继续睡把。
w***w
发帖数: 6301
16
Does a Dependent Child Have to File a 2020 Federal Tax Return?
https://stwserve.com/does-a-dependent-child-have-to-file-a-2020-federal-tax-
return/
In general, a dependent child must file a 2020 federal income tax return if
any of the following apply:
Unearned income during 2020 exceeding $1,100. Unearned income includes
taxable interest, dividends, capital gains, the taxable part of Social
Security and pension payments, certain distribution from trusts, and
unemployment compensation.
Earned income over $12,400. Earned income includes salary or wages.
Gross income during 2020 is more than the greater of: (1) $1,100 or (2)
earned income plus $350 (not to exceed $12,400).
w***w
发帖数: 6301
17
一根筋。
刚才那贴删掉啦?
r****b
发帖数: 1087
18
楼上文章只说了什么情况必须报税。
没说什么情况不需要。
而且他没有提到任何关于self employed的 问题。
对楼主的问题没有任何参考价值。
目前主要问题是 要补交 social security 和 medicare tax。
建议楼主参考IRS官网。
链接在3楼。

tax-
if

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Does a Dependent Child Have to File a 2020 Federal Tax Return?
: https://stwserve.com/does-a-dependent-child-have-to-file-a-2020-federal-tax-
: return/
: In general, a dependent child must file a 2020 federal income tax return if
: any of the following apply:
: Unearned income during 2020 exceeding $1,100. Unearned income includes
: taxable interest, dividends, capital gains, the taxable part of Social
: Security and pension payments, certain distribution from trusts, and
: unemployment compensation.
: Earned income over $12,400. Earned income includes salary or wages.

w***w
发帖数: 6301
19
自己看,IRS网站的PDF。
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf
Table 2.2020 Filing Requirements for Dependents
Single dependents—Were you either age 65 or older or blind?No. You must
file a return if any of the following apply.1.Your unearned income was more
than $1,100.2.Your earned income was more than $12,400.3.Your gross income
was more than the larger of— a.$1,100, orb.Your earned income (up to $12,
050) plus $350.Yes. You must file a return if any of the following apply.1.
Your unearned income was more than $2,750 ($4,400 if 65 or older and blind).
2.Your earned income was more than $14,050 ($15,700 if 65 or older and blind
).3.Your gross income was more than the larger of—a.$2,750 ($4,400 if 65 or
older and blind), or b.Your earned income (up to $12,050) plus $2,000 ($3,
650 if 65 or older and blind)
r****b
发帖数: 1087
20
同样的PDF第5页
Table 3. Other Situations When You Must File a 2020 Return
If any of the seven conditions listed below applied to you for 2020, you
must file a return.
3. You had net earnings from self-employment of at least $400. (See Schedule
SE (Form 1040) and its instructions.)

more
).
blind
or

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 自己看,IRS网站的PDF。
: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf
: Table 2.2020 Filing Requirements for Dependents
: Single dependents—Were you either age 65 or older or blind?No. You must
: file a return if any of the following apply.1.Your unearned income was more
: than $1,100.2.Your earned income was more than $12,400.3.Your gross income
: was more than the larger of— a.$1,100, orb.Your earned income (up to $12,
: 050) plus $350.Yes. You must file a return if any of the following apply.1.
: Your unearned income was more than $2,750 ($4,400 if 65 or older and blind).
: 2.Your earned income was more than $14,050 ($15,700 if 65 or older and blind

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w***w
发帖数: 6301
21
只有table2 是适用于dependent的。
table1和table3,table4都是其他情况。
你自己查查table1和table3,table4的使用范围都是正常工作的人的。不属于
dependent。
换句话说,400 self-employment是针对正常工作的人。
dependent不适用。
否则这个400 self-employment条款也会出现在table2.
r****b
发帖数: 1087
22
我只看到 “MUST”. 没看到你所说的“不属于dependent”。
你为什么不用 3楼的 tool呢?

【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 只有table2 是适用于dependent的。
: table1和table3,table4都是其他情况。
: 你自己查查table1和table3,table4的使用范围都是正常工作的人的。不属于
: dependent。
: 换句话说,400 self-employment是针对正常工作的人。
: dependent不适用。
: 否则这个400 self-employment条款也会出现在table2.

w***w
发帖数: 6301
23
我只能说服理智正常的人。
不会再回你贴。
r****b
发帖数: 1087
24
你有时间提高一下你的英语水平把。
If you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien, whether you must file a federal
income tax return depends on your gross income, your filing status, your
age, and whether you are a dependent. For details, see Table 1 and Table 2.
You must also file if one of the situations described in Table 3 applies.
The filing requirements apply even if you owe no tax.
很明显,table 1 和 table 2 是并列关系。谈的内容是基于 your gross income,
your filing status, your age, and whether you are a dependent.
table 3 是另外附加的。跟是不是 dependent 没有联系。
g******a
发帖数: 4774
25
看到中华公所所要求报税的条件

【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 收到1099表,
: 但网上资讯有说低于$X千可以不报税,
: 以前问过会计师说可以不用报税。
: 哪种准确?
: 还是一定要加入家庭报税吗?
: 谢谢!

w*****3
发帖数: 2301
26
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w*****7
发帖数: 478
27
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p929.pdf
it is co clear!
Example. William is 16. His mother claims him as a
dependent on her income tax return. He worked part time
on weekends during the school year and full time during
the summer. He earned $12,500 in wages. He didn't have
any unearned income.
He must file a tax return because he has earned income only and his gross
income is more than $12,400. If
he is blind, he doesn't have to file a return because his
gross income isn't more than $14,050.
d*********1
发帖数: 1
28
我看到这个贴里有一个弱智上传下跳,我特地来回一下。你得关键词是1099,告诉你得
会计师你收到得是1099-misc, box 7. 其实给小孩报税是好事,狠多老美有biz都很早
给自己得娃发1099了。不知道为啥可以问问会计师

【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 收到1099表,
: 但网上资讯有说低于$X千可以不报税,
: 以前问过会计师说可以不用报税。
: 哪种准确?
: 还是一定要加入家庭报税吗?
: 谢谢!

d****c
发帖数: 276
29
if including kid income, then will pay more tax?
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