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[流言板]德安东尼:哈登很出色地完成了我要求他的所有事
由 JQQhhhh 发表在虎扑篮球·火箭专区 https://bbs.hupu.com/rockets
虎扑10月8日讯 今日火箭主帅迈克-德安东尼在接受采访时谈到了前球队主帅凯文-麦克
海尔关于詹姆斯-哈登的言论。麦克海尔此前在节目中表示哈登不是一名领袖。
“我所能做的就是谈谈我的经验,而哈登的表现一直令人难以置信地出色。很明显,因
为他和球队的其他11名球员,我成为了上赛季的最佳主教练。他十分出色地完成了我要
求他的所有事情。上赛季,我向他提出了许多要求。我要求他担任控球后卫,我要求他
在防守端有更多的话语权,我要求了许多事情,他都做出了很出色的回应。我们的化学
反应很好。他是夏天里第一个把大家聚集在一起或召集大家出外来凝聚球队的人。所以
我无法理解这个评论,他的表现一直很出色。”德安东尼说道。
2016-17赛季常规赛,哈登场均上场36.4分钟,得到29.1分8.1篮板11.2助攻1.49抢断。
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[美国JRs之声]哈登强烈反驳麦克海尔的指责,美球迷力挺:哈登少见地动怒了
由 OmarComing 发表在虎扑篮球·湿乎乎的话题 https://bbs.hupu.com/vote
Harden calls McHale "a clown" in response to McHale's comments on his
leadership
哈登回应麦克海尔的言论,声称他是“小丑”。
北京时间10月8日,据《休斯顿纪事报》报道,前火箭队主帅凯文-麦克海尔点评詹姆斯
-哈登不是一名合格的领袖。对此,哈登在今天接受采访时进行反击,并称麦克海尔是
一个“小丑。”
“他是一个小丑。老实说,我做了他要求我做的一切,但是他从来没有教我如何成为一
名领袖。”哈登在今天接受采访时回击了麦克海尔的批评。
“我觉得自己做得很棒,我的教练和队友们都知道我训练有多么刻苦。”他接着说道,
“每天,我都在努力成为一名更好的球员,以及一名球队领袖。他(麦克海尔)这么说
我,这反映出了他的人品。我真的不喜欢在社交媒体上和别人打口水战,但是这说明了
他的为人。”
当被问到麦克海尔是否依然对当初被火箭队解雇而耿耿于怀时,哈登同意这种说法。
“当然,但是我和(他被解雇)没有任何关系。”哈登说道,“我的工作就是打出高水
准并保持竞争性。当初他(麦克海尔)当着我的面说我是一位多么出色的球员,以及他
在这支球队里感到多么幸运。然后几年之后,他说出了完全相反的话。这反映出他的为
人,但我不是这样的人。”
[–]Celticssahsan10 178 指標 8小時前
Why are people so butthurt? KG has said some amazing things about McHale and
credits him for his wet 18 foot jumper. Dwight fared way better in Houston
than he did in ATL/LAL, up until his last season when McHale was fired 7
games into the season. Yeah, it's not shocking that a big man coaches bigs
better than guards.
大家有什么可不忿的啊?加内特对麦克海尔赞不绝口,而且将自己如比般顺滑的18英尺
跳投归功于麦克海尔。霍华德在休斯顿的表现可比在老鹰和湖人的时候强多了,直到最
后一个赛季、麦克海尔赛季开始打了没七场就被炒了的时候才开始真正出现巨大滑坡。
所以,没错,球员时代是内线的教练执教大个子要比执教后卫强,这没什么可令人惊讶
的。
[–]jebustbot 29 指標 4小時前*
Dwight Howard fared better in Houston specifically because Houston gave him
the offense.
McHale was a massive pull factor for Dwight, and Houston sacrificed much of
it's offense for him. He was statistically one of the league leaders in post
possessions every year in Houston, but near the very bottom in actual post
scoring efficiency. This is in contrast with his PnR numbers which were
significantly better (one of the best in fact) but also the least used in
Houston.
霍华德在火箭打的好就是因为火箭给他进攻端的触球机会。
麦克海尔对霍华德来说算是极其重要的拉力因素,火箭也为霍华德牺牲了大量的进攻端
机会。霍华德在火箭的每个赛季都是联盟中低位单打次数的佼佼者,但是效率确实垫底
那档。这跟他的挡拆数据形成鲜明对比,实际上霍华德的挡拆切入数据是联盟中最好之
一,但是火箭用的最少的也是这个战术。
Remember during Harden's two MVP runner up season, there is no Dwight Howard
. His first run was with Dwight missing half of the season (the Rockets
ended with 56 wins that season), and last season with Rockets winning 55
without Dwight entirely.
There is a reason why even Atlanta parted ways with Dwight Howard only after
one season, and why Houston had so much success without him. McHale wasn't
making Dwight better, McHale was babying up to what Dwight Howard wanted at
the cost of the team's offensive system. Instead of making Dwight run the
PnR which were statistically more efficient, he kept getting Dwight in the
post because he kept thinking Dwight can dominate in the post.
不要忘了,哈登MVP排第二的两个赛季中都基本没有霍华德的影子。第一次的时候霍华
德缺席了大半个赛季,而火箭那年56胜。上赛季霍华德离开了,火箭55胜。老鹰跟霍华
德合作了一个赛季就把他甩卖掉是有原因的,火箭离开霍华德能取得巨大成功也是有原
因的。麦克海尔当时可没有让霍华德变得更优秀,麦克海尔是放纵霍华德,代价就是火
箭进攻的停滞。挡拆切入实际上是霍华德最高效的得分方式,但是麦克海尔不要求霍华
德去挡拆,他让霍华德打低位,因为他一直都以为霍华德能统治低位。
[–]Supersonicsformido 35 指標 4小時前
I think history is written by the victors and since Harden is an NBA star,
everyone will rationalize everything to make McHale look bad and Harden look
good. Thus McHale is "salty" and Harden claiming he had no hand in firing
is "candid".
历史是由胜利者书写的,因为哈登现在是NBA球星,所有人都会找借口,把麦克海尔当
成替罪羊,而让哈登面子上过得去。所以麦克海尔在“酸”,而哈登宣称他跟麦克海尔
被炒没关系是“靠谱的”。
[–]RocketsCCM721 261 指標 7小時前
Good, Harden was the only reason McHale was getting a paycheck for a few
years there. Absolutely awful coach who was sold as a "players coach" which
basically means he's incapable of doing anything. On top of that the players
didn't even like him that much.
火箭球迷:哈登说得好。哈登是麦克海尔在火箭能领几年教练薪水的唯一原因。他的执
教简直太差了,他的标签是“鸡汤教练”,换句话说就是其实他根本啥也不会。而且,
球员们还根本没那么喜欢他。
[–][NYK] Steve Novakalexyxray 108 指標 6小時前
McHale's offense was so stagnant it was a joke
麦克海尔的进攻体系太不流畅,跟笑话一样。
[–]RocketsCCM721 117 指標 6小時前
His offense was basically "fuck you, I have James Harden"
火箭球迷:麦克海尔进攻端的战术基本上就算“爱咋咋地,我有詹姆斯-哈登我怕谁。”
[–]Rocketsj3i 66 指標 6小時前
And it was still top 3 iirc
火箭球迷:而且我没记错的话,就这样,火箭的进攻在当时还是联盟前三。
[–]LakersDeliwoot 57 指標 5小時前
So maybe he was a better coach than we all thought?...
所以可能麦克海尔的执教没我们想的那么差?
[–]RocketsEchoesOfADistantDay 152 指標 8小時前
McHale was a clown coach that didn't know how to draw up a play no matter
the situation. I like the guy but come on he is not a good coach AT ALL.
火箭球迷:麦克海尔是个小丑教练,啥时候都不会画战术。我挺喜欢他这个人的,但是
,大家伙摸着良心说,他根本就跟好教练不沾边好吧!
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 114 指標 7小時前
Never forget - Lin drawing up a game deciding play in a close playoff series
while McHale is nowhere to be seen
And don't forget his awful use of timeouts.
The most tactical thing McHale ever did as a coach was decide to hack
DeAndre Jordan, and even that was done in a really bad manner (literally
every play, as a near desperation attempt. For comparison, see how DAntoni
managed to hack Roberson at the right moments last season)
火箭球迷:别忘记了,林书豪在焦灼的季后赛系列赛的关键时刻画了一个战术,而当时
根本就看不到麦克海尔的人影。
也别忘记了他对暂停的糟糕使用。
麦克海尔作为教练做过的最有战略性的事就是砍小乔丹,而且就算是砍,吃相也很难看
,真的每个回合都砍,就跟走投无路一样,作为对比,大家可以看看德安东尼上赛季季
后赛是怎么砍罗伯森的。
[–]Nuggets Bandwagonmutheadman 42 指標 5小時前
This makes me love Jeremy Lin even more.
我更喜欢林书豪了。
[–]Knicksthelastpope 35 指標 4小時前
Rockets had a 4th Q lineup of
Lin
Beverly
Harden
Parsons (pre-injury)
Howard
And McHale found a way to mess it up
火箭第四节的阵容:林书豪+贝弗利+哈登+伤前的帕森斯+霍华德
麦克海尔竟然还有办法搞砸。
[–][HOU] Chris PaulBriand2714 59 指標 8小時前
You mean his "come on guys, let's go!" coaching wasn't good?!
火箭球迷:你们是说麦克海尔的“兄弟们加油,上!”执教方式不够出色吗?
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 21 指標 7小時前
Clap clap clap "Come on guys, we gotta rebound the ball, get on the
offensive glass, just play ball, have FUN!"
火箭球迷:麦克海尔鼓鼓掌:“加油,抢好篮板,打好进攻,好好打球哈哥几个,打得
开心点!”
[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownUpvoteIfYouAgreee 298 指標 9小時前
Harden shouldnt have responded.
哈登本不该作出回应。
[–]Huckleberry_Sin[S] 64 指標 9小時前
Actually surprised he did. First time I've ever seen him that way. Or even
first time it seems like he's ever cared about someone questioning his
ability. He usually keeps a cool head and he's also pretty non-
confrontational.
我也挺惊讶的,我第一次见到哈登这样。这也是头一回哈登看起来在乎别人对他能力的
质疑。他一般都很冷静,不会跟别人争个你死我活。
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 96 指標 7小時前
Someone in the rockets sub mimicked my feelings on this - Harden NEVER
fucking dukes it out with the media, acts passive aggressive on social media
, call reporters out, etc. Of the top 6-7 players of LeBron/WB/Durant/Harden
/Curry/Kawhi and CP3 (he's dropped off a little from that group), Harden is
the most thick-skinned, despite probably getting the most criticism (in
proportion to praise) of any NBA star. Can anyone recall him doing something
like this before?!
火箭专区的一个老哥说得好:哈登从来不给媒体猛料,哈登也从来不会在社交媒体上含
沙射影的说谁,哈登也从来没指名道姓骂过哪个记者。联盟前6、7人詹姆斯、威少、杜
兰特、哈登、库里、伦纳德和保罗(保罗快掉出这个行列了)中,哈登是“脸皮”最厚
的,尽管哈登是所有NBA球星里受到批评最多的那个(我是说与赞美的比例来看)。哈
登以前就没干过类似的事,如果我记错的话,欢迎大家补充。
So I'm thinking Harden is pissed about those comments, and that, trying to
put aside my feelings on McHale as a coach and his shots at the Rockets
since being fired, because Harden never fucking does this shit, I'm gonna
back him up 100%.
If this was say, for example, KD, where he has a history of doing this sorta
stuff, sure, I'd be iffy or annoyed at him for responding. Harden never
responds, I'm not gonna want him to shut up now.
所以我觉得哈登对麦克海尔的这些评论很生气,而且我也暂时搁置了对麦克海尔教练的
观点、搁置了他在被炒鱿鱼以后说火箭的坏话,因为哈登以前从来不会这样做的,我百
分之一百支持他。
如果要是杜兰特这么干,我可能会有点烦躁有点不喜欢,因为杜兰特有前科。但是哈登
从来不会做出回应,所以他现在发声了,我也不会让他闭嘴的。
[–]Supersonicsneongem 119 指標 8小時前
Why not? McHale took a shot at him, why shouldn't he defend himself?
为什么不呢?麦克海尔说了哈登坏话,哈登为什么不可以反击?
[–][HOU] Charles BarkleyJimHarden 217 指標 8小時前
r/nba said the same shit about LeBron when he fired back at Barkley. They
don't think players should be allowed to speak freely and should always give
pc answers. Fuck that, they can say whatever they want. Especially when
they feel disrespected
詹姆斯回喷巴克利的时候,Reddit不少人就黑詹姆斯,这些人觉得球员不应该有自由发
言的权利,就应该给出政治正确的答案。我可不买账,球员们爱说啥说啥,尤其是当他
们感到自己不被尊重的时候。
[–]Halifaux 26 指標 3小時前
Why are people picking sides? Seems like they are both right to me.
为什么大家都在站队?我觉得麦克海尔和哈登都对。
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ZT:前火箭主帅麦克海尔:哈登不是一名领袖 由 拯救失足妇女 发表在虎扑篮球·湿
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近日在《OpenCourt》节目里,凯文-麦克海尔等人谈到了克里斯-保罗加盟火箭对詹姆
斯-哈登的影响。
“我认为这会让火箭成为一支更加出色的球队,因为你已经有了詹姆斯-哈登,他处理
球很棒,他的传球很棒,并且他在场上的视野出色,讲到视野,詹姆斯(哈登)可以看
到所有的传球路线并且做到一切,但是詹姆斯(哈登)不是一名领袖,他在上赛季尝试
做一名领袖,我认为克里斯-保罗会帮他做回那个只是打球的球员,但是每个球队都要
有一个声音,有一个当他讲一些事情的时候其他人会听的球员,而詹姆斯(哈登)的话
,如果他告诉你,‘查克(查尔斯-巴克利)你的防守必须要更好一些,你会听他的么
?’你一定是在开玩笑的吧?相信我,我经历过这些,如果他这么讲,更衣室里的人都
会这么做(低头并且手捂着额头),每次当他提防守的时候,大家都会这样。”麦克海
尔说道。
麦克海尔接着说:“我认为克里斯-保罗对詹姆斯-哈登来说很棒,这让会他(哈登)做
自己,那就是做一名出色的球员,而不是领导球队,这不是他的性格。”
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