b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 PDA 讨论区 】
发信人: qqzj (小车车), 信区: PDA
标 题: 今天看jobs的bio被惊呆了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 7 16:32:57 2011, 美东)
看了 jobs 背着 woz 偷偷拿bonus的事情，这部就是曹操一类奸雄干的事情么？感觉 w
oz 才是一个真英雄。apple版干脆崇拜woz算了。
they were able to get the job done in four days, and Wozniak used only forty
-five chips. Recollections differ, but by most accounts Jobs simply gave Woz
niak half of the base fee and not the bonus Bushnell paid for saving five ch
ips. It would be another ten years before Wozniak discovered (by being shown
the tale in a book on the history of Atari titled Zap) that Jobs had been p
aid this bonus. “I think that Steve needed the money, and he just didn’t t
ell me the truth,” Wozniak later said. When he talks about it now, there ar
e long pauses, and he admits that it causes him pain. “I wish he had just b
een honest. If he had told me he needed the money, he should have known I wo
uld have just given it to him. He was a friend. You help your friends.” To
Wozniak, it showed a fundamental difference in their characters. “Ethics al
ways mattered to me, and I still don’t understand why he would’ve gotten p
aid one thing and told me he’d gotten paid another,” he said. “But, you k
now, people are different.” When Jobs learned this story was published, he
called Wozniak to deny it. “He told me that he didn’t remember doing it, a
nd that if he did something like that he would remember it, so he probably d
idn’t do it,” Wozniak recalled. When I asked Jobs directly, he became unus
ually quiet and hesitant. “I don’t know where that allegation comes from,”
he said. “I gave him half the money I ever got. That’s how I’ve always b
een with Woz. I mean, Woz stopped working in 1978. He never did one ounce of
work after 1978. And yet he got exactly the same shares of Apple stock that
I did.”
Isaacson, Walter (2011-10-24). Steve Jobs (Kindle Locations 1192-1204). Simo
n & Schuster. Kindle Edition. | B******m
发帖数: 2643 | 2 woz没戏，我觉得super engineer好找，乔布斯这种预先知道客户需求的人不好找。
举个例子，我们公司的软件其实算法特别好，但是对手卖的比我们好，去年挖来一个对
手做界面的人来我们组，给我们出的主意都是怎么design menu，怎么增加user
experience的，当然他是非常优秀的工程师，现在是我们一个部门的manager，结果我
们的产品受欢迎程度增加的那叫一个快。
w
forty
Woz
ch
shown
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 PDA 讨论区 】
: 发信人: qqzj (小车车), 信区: PDA
: 标 题: 今天看jobs的bio被惊呆了。
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 7 16:32:57 2011, 美东)
: 看了 jobs 背着 woz 偷偷拿bonus的事情，这部就是曹操一类奸雄干的事情么？感觉 w
: oz 才是一个真英雄。apple版干脆崇拜woz算了。
: they were able to get the job done in four days, and Wozniak used only forty
: -five chips. Recollections differ, but by most accounts Jobs simply gave Woz
: niak half of the base fee and not the bonus Bushnell paid for saving five ch
: ips. It would be another ten years before Wozniak discovered (by being shown
| b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 3 这个不是说jobs没talent, 说的是jobs人品太差
【在 B******m 的大作中提到】
: woz没戏，我觉得super engineer好找，乔布斯这种预先知道客户需求的人不好找。
: 举个例子，我们公司的软件其实算法特别好，但是对手卖的比我们好，去年挖来一个对
: 手做界面的人来我们组，给我们出的主意都是怎么design menu，怎么增加user
: experience的，当然他是非常优秀的工程师，现在是我们一个部门的manager，结果我
: 们的产品受欢迎程度增加的那叫一个快。
:
: w
: forty
: Woz
: ch
| B******m
发帖数: 2643 | 4 管仲也人品差私吞钱，做大事的从来小节都很烂。
看你要什么了，schulley个人品德很好，差点把apple搞倒闭了。
有的时候perfect resume才是最害人的，大数是faculty，做faculty的都是名校好文章
一点一点积攒。
工业界才不管这么多，什么流氓地痞，只要能干事全要。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 这个不是说jobs没talent, 说的是jobs人品太差
| E********t
发帖数: 4091 | 5 Jobs是super salesman 美学应用设计为主 技术为辅 什么RP值在教主脑子里都是浮云
所以看大爆炸某一集里Sheldon找Woz要签名说你在我崇拜人物榜里排名9，Jobs排名17
的时候觉得某些美国人其实还是能看透Jobs的本质的 |
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