s*********e
发帖数: 4475 | 1 这房子显然是豪宅了。 去年开始想以137.5万卖， 没成。 一下子降到109.9万。
137.5万撑了那么久， 为什么一下子降这么多呢？ 但zillow的估价只有九十多万。
从zillow的估价看， 现在这些百万豪宅的价格普遍大跌。
还有， 这房子是九几年建的， 2001年9月卖了51万五， 好像也忒低了一些。
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/07430/37952777_zpid/
http://www.njmls.com/listings/index.cfm?action=dsp.info&mlsnum=
http://sandbox.xmlsweb.com/PictureMaint/ShowPhoto.aspx?
id=1109597&num=1&resize=Y |
d*****j
发帖数: 1192 | 2 zillow's estimate is very unreliable.
Search the address using freenjsearch, the last sale was 1992. If the sale
really happened in 2005, I suspect it's a transaction between family members.
http://freenjsearch.com/nj/search?q=2+Surrey+LnMahwah%2C+NJ+074
also i checked tax record by entering the address. No recent sale history...
http://bg.taxrecords.com/cgi-bin/DOTAXMAPFORM?account=c6000059 |
a****i
发帖数: 73 | 3 Zillow is just for fun.
Realtor.com is better source. Zestimate is a crap. True market value
should be similar houses in the same area sold in the last 6 months.
Chengbo Yin
Pru Fox and Roach
732-278-8986 |
p*******n
发帖数: 4824 | 4 Zestimate也是按照过去几个月的comparable sales做的啊。。。尽管上上下下起伏很
大。。。
But when the zestimate price history is fitted with a smoother curve, it
is at least not biased to anyone's interest. Accordingly, it is more
trustworthy than price analysis done by realtors, which is typically
biased towards their own interest. I would highly recommend combining
Zestimate with Chase home value eppraisal for your reference when you are
in the real estate market, instead of listening to realtors 忽悠。。。
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: Zillow is just for fun.
: Realtor.com is better source. Zestimate is a crap. True market value
: should be similar houses in the same area sold in the last 6 months.
: Chengbo Yin
: Pru Fox and Roach
: 732-278-8986
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a****i
发帖数: 73 | 5 Zillow has update issue. If you compare Zillow and realtor.com which is
updated within hours of regional/state MLS databases are updated, you will
find the differences. Zillow, however, who got millions public records from
public sources, cannot keep up with the update. Since 2006, it allowed
users to edit their own house information. Hello, I mean for those of us
who work in the data administration field, would we allow users to "correct"
the data errors? Zestimate is not accurate and Zillow was the first one in
the world to admit it. If you can search its website and you will find
their confession. It says it is not biased in the macro level, but has a
lot of issues at county level. The question is if records are not updated
as they should be, how can you deduce an accurate recent market value of a
given property? It is just a mind set game, you will think zestimate
accurate if you are a buyer in a buyer market, but not accurate being a
buyer in a seller market. Accuracy is an opinion. |
p*******n
发帖数: 4824 | 6 Where and when did I say zillow's valuation is accurate??? Zillow
would certainly not deny errors in their valuations. However, even
appraisers admit their appraisals are not accurate either. It's a
bit odd to see a realtor has the nerve to say there exists an
"accurate" valuation method. You should know it well that there
is no such thing!
Zillow has update issues but it catches selling records as long as
they are public. It is still useful for reference purpose, and
it's not zillows interest to bias their estimations. I think I
also mentioned that combining multiple valuation systems like the
one from chase is often a better idea.
MLS systems get the most recent sales records (right after the
closing) and if they were used in an unbiased way, it could have
been really useful. However, it's questionable that realtors won't
manipulate the data when they do price analysis for their customers.
I would suggest all my friends not trust their agents unless they
know each other well enough...
is
will
records from
allowed
us
"correct"
one in
find
has a
updated
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: Zillow has update issue. If you compare Zillow and realtor.com which is
: updated within hours of regional/state MLS databases are updated, you will
: find the differences. Zillow, however, who got millions public records from
: public sources, cannot keep up with the update. Since 2006, it allowed
: users to edit their own house information. Hello, I mean for those of us
: who work in the data administration field, would we allow users to "correct"
: the data errors? Zestimate is not accurate and Zillow was the first one in
: the world to admit it. If you can search its website and you will find
: their confession. It says it is not biased in the macro level, but has a
: lot of issues at county level. The question is if records are not updated
|
a****i
发帖数: 73 | 7 have no problem with your cynical attitude towards realtors, cause there are
bad ones. |
a****i
发帖数: 73 | 8 I did not say realtors valuations are accurate (we call it opinion on
property value (of course with bias)). I just said Zestimate is not, and I
said "Accuracy is an opinion" |
s****y
发帖数: 682 | 9 If it's a buyer's market, why not buyers can't decide the house price? |
m****o
发帖数: 31 | 10 很多seller卖的时候心理期望过高，还以为是几年前卖家的天下
现在房市低迷，只能降价了 |
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a****i
发帖数: 73 | 11 transaction is a negotiation, buyers along cannot decide, but buyers do have
more powers for there are plenty of inventory, and the Banks are releasing
bank-owned properties gradually. It may not be the bottom yet once these
bank-owned are on market. |
s*********e
发帖数: 4475 | 12 不太认同你的逻辑。
1. 几个小时还是几天update, 对价格估计并没有太大差别。
2. 承认自己的数据不完美并不表示数据就真的比别的网站差。
另外， 让用户更新的数据往往是高度准确的。
is
will
records from
allowed
us
"correct"
one in
find
has a
updated
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: Zillow has update issue. If you compare Zillow and realtor.com which is
: updated within hours of regional/state MLS databases are updated, you will
: find the differences. Zillow, however, who got millions public records from
: public sources, cannot keep up with the update. Since 2006, it allowed
: users to edit their own house information. Hello, I mean for those of us
: who work in the data administration field, would we allow users to "correct"
: the data errors? Zestimate is not accurate and Zillow was the first one in
: the world to admit it. If you can search its website and you will find
: their confession. It says it is not biased in the macro level, but has a
: lot of issues at county level. The question is if records are not updated
|
s*********e
发帖数: 4475 | 13 上realtor.com看了一下，拿这个网站和zillow比， 不是搞笑吗。
is
will
records from
allowed
us
"correct"
one in
find
has a
updated
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: Zillow has update issue. If you compare Zillow and realtor.com which is
: updated within hours of regional/state MLS databases are updated, you will
: find the differences. Zillow, however, who got millions public records from
: public sources, cannot keep up with the update. Since 2006, it allowed
: users to edit their own house information. Hello, I mean for those of us
: who work in the data administration field, would we allow users to "correct"
: the data errors? Zestimate is not accurate and Zillow was the first one in
: the world to admit it. If you can search its website and you will find
: their confession. It says it is not biased in the macro level, but has a
: lot of issues at county level. The question is if records are not updated
|
s****y
发帖数: 682 | 14 I agree. I am novice and just wonder why buyers do not set up a budget first
, then find out what is the best
they can get with the budget. kind of like buy a car, if you have 20k budget
, why bother to look at luxury
section, and vice versa.
have
releasing
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: transaction is a negotiation, buyers along cannot decide, but buyers do have
: more powers for there are plenty of inventory, and the Banks are releasing
: bank-owned properties gradually. It may not be the bottom yet once these
: bank-owned are on market.
|
m********s
发帖数: 449 | 15 this is totally different.
car models are standard and price is almost fixed.
first
budget
【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: I agree. I am novice and just wonder why buyers do not set up a budget first
: , then find out what is the best
: they can get with the budget. kind of like buy a car, if you have 20k budget
: , why bother to look at luxury
: section, and vice versa.
:
: have
: releasing
|
a****i
发帖数: 73 | 16 Here is the deal.
The issue with Zillow is some houses on Zillow labelled as for sale but
actually sold months ago. If miniutes/days/weeks of update issue should not
compromise Zestimate valuation, months of lag behind should compromise it to
a certain extent (again this is an opinion). If you are happy with zillow
and zestimate, I won't stand in between. Just keep in mind these issues. |
m********s
发帖数: 449 | 17 you are comparing orange with apple.
not
it to
zillow
issues.
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: Here is the deal.
: The issue with Zillow is some houses on Zillow labelled as for sale but
: actually sold months ago. If miniutes/days/weeks of update issue should not
: compromise Zestimate valuation, months of lag behind should compromise it to
: a certain extent (again this is an opinion). If you are happy with zillow
: and zestimate, I won't stand in between. Just keep in mind these issues.
|
y*******3
发帖数: 636 | 18 my personal experience is Zestimate number is always lower than the actual
prices sold.
very unreliable |
p*******n
发帖数: 4824 | 19 你看了多久？
actual
【在 y*******3 的大作中提到】
: my personal experience is Zestimate number is always lower than the actual
: prices sold.
: very unreliable
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s****y
发帖数: 682 | |
t**n
发帖数: 4365 | 21 多谢提醒。封了id，不过这破系统，怎么都删不了贴。。。
【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: 楼上发广告是不是要封id
: 版主？
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