L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 1 Englewood Cliff是十分学区，在哈德逊河边上，算个好地方。 亚裔多， 中国人不少
，但多数是韩国人。
刚看wiki, 才知道这小镇只有五千多人，没有高中。 根据1967年的协议， 高中生全部
由黑人区高中Englewood High School接受。 但Englewood Cliff居民的孩子很少去上
Englewood,多数都自己出钱去读私校，或者北边的Tenafly(新州第三）.
几十年了，一代代Englewood Cliff居民为了改变1967年的安排上tenafly，从来没有停
止抗争，一直没有成功, Englewood学区就是以种族隔离为理由不放手。
根据纽约时报1987文章， 当时的Englewood Cliff父母每年出5000刀送孩子上tenafly
。 二十五年以后， 不知道涨到多少了, 可能要两万了吧。
不过， 如果出个两万就能上Tenafly，也不错， 毕竟Englewood Cliff的地税低得多，
环境也不错。 | r******g
发帖数: 1853 | | r******g
发帖数: 1853 | 3 如果你还有劲,要不发帖说道说道买房子的事? 北泽西给说道说道 | m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 4 http://www.oocities.org/ebgold/
"
The race question was raised explicitly in Cliffs and Englewood. Former
Cliffs Board trustee Wendy Gottlieb admitted, "There’s absolutely no
question. The Englewood Cliffs community doesn’t send their kids to [DMHS]
because it’s an 80-percent black high school."77 She later stated that "
Tenafly is very similar to Englewood Cliffs, educationally, socially, and
racially, and the bottom line is that we don’t want our kids at [DMHS]."78
One white Cliffs parent testified that his daughter had been exposed to "
ostracism and polarization along racial lines, which had caused the
temporary effect of causing her to hate going to school."79 Other Cliffs
parents cited social concerns for their children: "When we heard that there
were only going to be three kids from [our daughter’s] class at [DMHS] next
year, that’s a different situation."80 Englewood residents, though, were
convinced that race was the dominant factor. "What else could be the reason?
" asked the Englewood PTA president.81
In September 1985, the Cliffs Board took action to remove its students from
Englewood, hiring a former state attorney general as its representative
before the State Board of Education. An Englewood Board member charged that
the move amounted to "out and out bigotry."82 Englewood stressed that its
academics and facilities were excellent, and that race was the sole factor
in the Cliffs decision. Dr. Adler, the Englewood superintendent, declared
that the state should not ratify the right of a community to "buy its way
out of what it claims to be an inadequate program."83
To no one’s surprise, reports surfaced several weeks later that Tenafly was
Cliffs’ first choice as a sending district. If Cliffs’ motion were
ultimately successful, then all Cliffs students would have been able to
attend THS tuition-free. In an official relationship with Cliffs, Tenafly
stood to gain an additional $300,000 annually,84 and its declining
enrollment situation would have been swiftly erased.85 One wrinkle did
emerge: sources told the Bergen Record that Tenafly had approached Cliffs,
proposing the relationship to the surprise of the Cliffs Board. Both sides
quickly denied the report. Preempting a lawsuit, Penelope Young, then
president of the Tenafly Board, insisted, "We did not solicit them to come
here as a sending-receiving relationship, and we did not solicit their
students to come here as private students."86
Tenafly’s Board quickly and unanimously agreed to Cliffs’ proposal.
Neither Board commented on any potential complications resulting from the
race issue, despite Englewood’s publicly aired accusations that the move
was racially motivated. Cliffs filed its official petition in December. The
Record’s editorial page, while acknowledging that the issue "is more
complicated than a simple racial dispute" and that it "would be hard to
argue that [DMHS] is a better school than Tenafly," urged the Commissioner
of Education to deny Cliffs’ petition. The state should not "promote a
policy of racial segregation, to accelerate the pattern of white flight."87
The determination of what course the situation would follow was in Englewood
’s hands, and the district would have to determine its position quickly.
One resident voiced frustration at Cliffs’ "annual kerfuffle" about
withdrawing its students from DMHS, and urged the Board to "let ‘em go,
wave goodbye," and not to put money into lawyers’ pockets.88 Also,
economically, "Englewood stood to lose hardly anything."89 Others demanded a
legal fight to prevent what seemed like a racially motivated decision.
Lawyers for Englewood presented the school board with a series of options on
the Cliffs situation. The Board could simply have agreed to let them go, or
it could have sued to prevent the severance. It decided to sue, and then
pressed further. Englewood’s primary lawyer Arnold Mytelka said, "winning
on the severance issue would be a Pyrrhic victory. It jumped off the page
that we ought to ask for an injunction."90 The injunction would prevent
Cliffs residents from availing themselves of Tenafly’s tuition program.
More practically, the injunction sought to limit Cliffs students’ choice of
public high schools to one, DMHS. Should it work as intended, with many of
the Cliffs and Englewood tuition students at THS returning to DMHS, the
injunction would help to alleviate Englewood’s racial imbalance.
The Englewood Board of Education and its lawyers also proposed a more
radical remedy. Since Cliffs’ petition was perceived as racially motivated,
Englewood seized the opportunity to shed light upon the racial imbalance of
its high school, noting the constitutional provision against "being
segregated" in New Jersey public schools. The state had set no specific
guidelines as to what constituted a segregated school population. Should a
school’s racial population reflect the greater population in its immediate
district? Its county? New Jersey? "Essentially, the law says that you have
to do the best you can. We felt that the other two methods [preventing
severance and imposing an injunction] would be ineffective remedies," said
Mytelka. "Ultimately regionalization was the only way the problem could
really be solved."91
On December 23, 1985, a quarter-century after an intra-district attempt to
combat racial segregation, and several attempts by a heavily white and
wealthy sending district to sever all ties, the city of Englewood’s Board
of Education brought litigation against Tenafly and Cliffs demanding the
creation of a regional high school district to alleviate the
unconstitutional segregation of students in its 90 percent black and
Hispanic high school.
The proposal initially met both shock and dismissal in Tenafly and Cliffs.
Perry Levinsohn, a Tenafly school board member, called the regionalization
petition "the work of lawyers who want to cloud the only issue, and that is:
Can Englewood Cliffs leave Dwight Morrow?" Not understanding the scope of
the measure, he continued, "It is really not our problem; we only will
accept the Englewood Cliffs students if all the rules are met."92 Cliffs
Trustee Wiczyk called the regionalization plan "far-fetched." She said it
was "not a source of concern."93 No one realized that this was only the
beginning of a fourteen-year struggle. As Mytelka soon discerned, "the case
grew like Topsy."94
" | L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 5 谢谢。 现在到底怎么样了。
好像englewood cliff的家长就是自掏腰包送孩子去tenafly.
]
78
【在 m****s 的大作中提到】
: http://www.oocities.org/ebgold/
: "
: The race question was raised explicitly in Cliffs and Englewood. Former
: Cliffs Board trustee Wendy Gottlieb admitted, "There’s absolutely no
: question. The Englewood Cliffs community doesn’t send their kids to [DMHS]
: because it’s an 80-percent black high school."77 She later stated that "
: Tenafly is very similar to Englewood Cliffs, educationally, socially, and
: racially, and the bottom line is that we don’t want our kids at [DMHS]."78
: One white Cliffs parent testified that his daughter had been exposed to "
: ostracism and polarization along racial lines, which had caused the
| m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 6 mostly private schools and BCA.
with 5000 total residents, not too many students per high school age class.
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢。 现在到底怎么样了。
: 好像englewood cliff的家长就是自掏腰包送孩子去tenafly.
:
: ]
: 78
| m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 7 no districts (including Tenafly) can take students (with tuition payment)
from Cliffs.
according to the following NYTimes article:
"The state denied a proposal to let Englewood Cliffs send its high school
students tuition-free to either Englewood or Tenafly schools and barred all
New Jersey school districts from taking any more tuition-paying students
from Englewood or Englewood Cliffs."
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/30/nyregion/high-court-rejects-d
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢。 现在到底怎么样了。
: 好像englewood cliff的家长就是自掏腰包送孩子去tenafly.
:
: ]
: 78
| L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 8 Englewood cliff的孩子太不幸了。 现在哪里几乎一半是亚裔，老中也很多。
十年以后好像又翻案了。
In 2003, the New Jersey State Board of Education overturned an injunction
that prohibited other public schools from accepting students from Englewood
Cliffs on a tuition basis, arguing that the establishment of the magnet
Academies@Englewood program within Dwight Morrow will allow the Englewood
district to draw white students to the district.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/nyregion/as-an-injunction-end
all
【在 m****s 的大作中提到】
: no districts (including Tenafly) can take students (with tuition payment)
: from Cliffs.
: according to the following NYTimes article:
: "The state denied a proposal to let Englewood Cliffs send its high school
: students tuition-free to either Englewood or Tenafly schools and barred all
: New Jersey school districts from taking any more tuition-paying students
: from Englewood or Englewood Cliffs."
: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/30/nyregion/high-court-rejects-d
| L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 9 现在看那黑人区高中亚裔和白人也占了四分一：
http://www.schoolmap.org/School/Dwight-Morrow-High-Student/
【在 m****s 的大作中提到】
: mostly private schools and BCA.
: with 5000 total residents, not too many students per high school age class.
| m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 10 The war has been declared and fought.
It's a feud.
Cliffs kids will NEVER go there.
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 现在看那黑人区高中亚裔和白人也占了四分一：
: http://www.schoolmap.org/School/Dwight-Morrow-High-Student/
| | | n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 11 audi 呢?
【在 r******g 的大作中提到】
: 楼主一发帖必和学校学区有关.
| L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 12 现在到底怎么样了？ 多少钱去读tenafly? 还是只能去私立？ 否则
Englewood cliff也是一个不错的小镇。
【在 m****s 的大作中提到】
: The war has been declared and fought.
: It's a feud.
: Cliffs kids will NEVER go there.
| m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 13 Everyone i know go to Bergen Academy.
Dont know anybody going to Tenafly.
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 现在到底怎么样了？ 多少钱去读tenafly? 还是只能去私立？ 否则
: Englewood cliff也是一个不错的小镇。
| i******t
发帖数: 11048 | 14 大哥看你研究这么透彻，决定去哪里了么？
如果你对location那么随便的话，可以考虑去纽约的那些牛校啊。
新泽西相对来说还是差阿。
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 现在到底怎么样了？ 多少钱去读tenafly? 还是只能去私立？ 否则
: Englewood cliff也是一个不错的小镇。
| L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 15 要考上 Bergen Academy也不容易吧。
【在 m****s 的大作中提到】
: Everyone i know go to Bergen Academy.
: Dont know anybody going to Tenafly.
| d***s
发帖数: 7683 | 16 中国人不参政不选举，就把黑鬼垃圾往你这扔你也得憋着。 | L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 17 纽约地区的房子太旧了。
你能不能推荐一个有新房子，学区好，中国人不少又能通勤去纽约的地方？
新泽西这样的地方还是有几个的。
【在 i******t 的大作中提到】
: 大哥看你研究这么透彻，决定去哪里了么？
: 如果你对location那么随便的话，可以考虑去纽约的那些牛校啊。
: 新泽西相对来说还是差阿。
| g****s
发帖数: 309 | 18 不知道历史这么曲折,是听说以前可以送Tenafly的.
tenafly
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: Englewood cliff的孩子太不幸了。 现在哪里几乎一半是亚裔，老中也很多。
: 十年以后好像又翻案了。
: In 2003, the New Jersey State Board of Education overturned an injunction
: that prohibited other public schools from accepting students from Englewood
: Cliffs on a tuition basis, arguing that the establishment of the magnet
: Academies@Englewood program within Dwight Morrow will allow the Englewood
: district to draw white students to the district.
: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/nyregion/as-an-injunction-end
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: all
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