a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 1 如果是真的,不明白当事人在读大学,硕士，博士的时候学到了什么。。。。特别是大学
的前两年。。。哎。。。。 |
b***u
发帖数: 12010 | 2 我要小心，不要被家暴。
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 如果是真的,不明白当事人在读大学,硕士，博士的时候学到了什么。。。。特别是大学
: 的前两年。。。哎。。。。
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 3 女人的人格在中学毕业就基本定型了
男人的还可以慢慢塑造，然后就这么塑造成了WSN
可怜的小孩 |
V*****8
发帖数: 33122 | 4 教育 has nothing to do with one's su zhi |
z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 5 很怀疑。。。
真正的嘉宝都是无声无息的人就消失了的。。
好像原来在留学生之间就发生过一起 |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 6 ..... I think you have been educated in the US as undergrad, have you ever
taken any humanity courses/philosophy classes(required) in teaching you how
to think/how to express/ how to critique? The value of life and the pursuit
of happiness.
【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: 教育 has nothing to do with one's su zhi
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 7 唉，米国学校里面哲学教育再多也不会教人要有羞耻心的啦
这个女猪简直是极品，跟她比一下，小月月才是浮云
世界真是太和谐了 |
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 8 我觉的很多都是学以之用的，如果学过的，领会到的，凡事在冲动，烦躁前都会想一下
。。。这就是 how to think 的威力。。。
上学是有时侯跟老外吵过多次，开始的时候，如果你不 raise voice, 就算对方很怒的
时候是不会容易大声起来的。。。。。。
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
: 唉，米国学校里面哲学教育再多也不会教人要有羞耻心的啦
: 这个女猪简直是极品，跟她比一下，小月月才是浮云
: 世界真是太和谐了
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 9
有理不在嗓门大，这个是从小形成的习惯吧
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 我觉的很多都是学以之用的，如果学过的，领会到的，凡事在冲动，烦躁前都会想一下
: 。。。这就是 how to think 的威力。。。
: 上学是有时侯跟老外吵过多次，开始的时候，如果你不 raise voice, 就算对方很怒的
: 时候是不会容易大声起来的。。。。。。
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 10 如果吵的时候嗓门不大，平静的吵架一般不会引起暴力的。。。。
这个从小，你说的是家庭的影响，还是学校，或周围的人？
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 有理不在嗓门大，这个是从小形成的习惯吧
|
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Y*****2
发帖数: 38613 | 11 我没看那个坑，不过我觉得你说的对。
但是很多人就算教育程度再好，也不会很rational。
很多人不会control their emotions, and let their emotions control them. |
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 12
主要是家庭
一般人在外面总是要比较文明要面子的，在家才会乱喊乱叫，父母不当心，小孩就学了去
榜样的力量很重要
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 如果吵的时候嗓门不大，平静的吵架一般不会引起暴力的。。。。
: 这个从小，你说的是家庭的影响，还是学校，或周围的人？
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 13 I think the first two years of college is extremely valuable. The higher
education is not only getting more knowledge in a specified field, but
rather, a little of everything. Those humanity/philosophy courses which are
required (in Columbia as well) are very helpful in self-control...
They discuss a lot in small classes, but don't really teach to you how to
express. You learn from your own by their guiding. You have to write 10-20
pages papers to express your views/opinions to critique those important
points in the textbook by showing why and reasons. It was very hard when you
were making up sentence to fill up the composition, but later, you would
realize how much you get out from those classes once you are in the real
life.
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 我没看那个坑，不过我觉得你说的对。
: 但是很多人就算教育程度再好，也不会很rational。
: 很多人不会control their emotions, and let their emotions control them.
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 14 很多人都说单亲的家庭对小孩子的影响很大，这是片面的，这是高中以下的，如果他/
她能上大学，不会比双亲家庭大的孩子差。。。。
很多有名的人都是在单亲/离异家庭大的。。。。。
了去
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 主要是家庭
: 一般人在外面总是要比较文明要面子的，在家才会乱喊乱叫，父母不当心，小孩就学了去
: 榜样的力量很重要
|
V*****8
发帖数: 33122 | 15 教育和一个人的素质没有必然的联系。一个人的品行更多的是受从小家庭教育，成长背
景影响。很多时候读书只是镀层金而已，外表金光闪闪，里面还是一堆绣铜烂铁
how
pursuit
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: ..... I think you have been educated in the US as undergrad, have you ever
: taken any humanity courses/philosophy classes(required) in teaching you how
: to think/how to express/ how to critique? The value of life and the pursuit
: of happiness.
|
L******k
发帖数: 33825 | 16 原来我们学校的哲学课叫做 rational animal啊！！！
【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 我没看那个坑，不过我觉得你说的对。
: 但是很多人就算教育程度再好，也不会很rational。
: 很多人不会control their emotions, and let their emotions control them.
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 17 美国的私人大学现在都超过 5 万一年了，4年下来 20 多万。。。学费还每年3-5%增长
。。用20多万去镀层金，还不如去买几个金砖。。。。那些 Liberal Art 学校很贵，
但是还是很多家长送孩子去。。。不是没有道理的。。。。。。
博士是 PhD, 查查 PhD 是什么的缩写。。。。
看来这个话题太过严肃了, 还是吃喝的好。。。。
【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: 教育和一个人的素质没有必然的联系。一个人的品行更多的是受从小家庭教育，成长背
: 景影响。很多时候读书只是镀层金而已，外表金光闪闪，里面还是一堆绣铜烂铁
:
: how
: pursuit
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 18
要看吧
单亲小孩的问题可能会出现在boundary issue上面，这个和成功不成功问题不大
双亲的如果天天父母打仗，小孩可能更容易暴力倾向，那还真不如单亲的清静
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 很多人都说单亲的家庭对小孩子的影响很大，这是片面的，这是高中以下的，如果他/
: 她能上大学，不会比双亲家庭大的孩子差。。。。
: 很多有名的人都是在单亲/离异家庭大的。。。。。
:
: 了去
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 19 从幼儿园开始老师就反复地教在什么样的情况下打 911。。。。
很多单亲小孩都是在在初高中时候 go wild...大学是转折。。。。。。
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 要看吧
: 单亲小孩的问题可能会出现在boundary issue上面，这个和成功不成功问题不大
: 双亲的如果天天父母打仗，小孩可能更容易暴力倾向，那还真不如单亲的清静
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 20
我觉得你把这个问题想简单了
我见过一些心灵有创伤的小孩，长大以后也人模狗样的符合良民的标准，但遇到事情的
时候，总会流露出非就事论事的一些负面情绪，气质表面上可以很polished,但你深入
看灵魂，就有一些迷雾在，同时在relationship方面也会有一些问题
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 从幼儿园开始老师就反复地教在什么样的情况下打 911。。。。
: 很多单亲小孩都是在在初高中时候 go wild...大学是转折。。。。。。
|
|
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 21 那是非常 General的, 虽然没有本质上去改变，但起码可以有预防作用。。。 法律，
教条是有规定，明文规定写在书上，但是有没有应用，决定性在人为和每件事。。。
很多小孩子被打后都知道可以叫警察，但是他们不会，只有老师看到伤痕后才暴光。。。
你说的这些人，有点像早年电影 Good Will Hunting 里的主角。。。数学顶尖的头脑
由于童年的家暴对什么都没有信心。。。在Harvard拖地和做建筑。。。。。
虽然电影是有点戏剧化，但也反映出很多真实的事情。。。。。
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: 我觉得你把这个问题想简单了
: 我见过一些心灵有创伤的小孩，长大以后也人模狗样的符合良民的标准，但遇到事情的
: 时候，总会流露出非就事论事的一些负面情绪，气质表面上可以很polished,但你深入
: 看灵魂，就有一些迷雾在，同时在relationship方面也会有一些问题
|
V*****8
发帖数: 33122 | 22 I don't believe 20多万 could change one's personality/characteristic
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 美国的私人大学现在都超过 5 万一年了，4年下来 20 多万。。。学费还每年3-5%增长
: 。。用20多万去镀层金，还不如去买几个金砖。。。。那些 Liberal Art 学校很贵，
: 但是还是很多家长送孩子去。。。不是没有道理的。。。。。。
: 博士是 PhD, 查查 PhD 是什么的缩写。。。。
: 看来这个话题太过严肃了, 还是吃喝的好。。。。
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 23
AGLEE
THERE ARE TOO MANY TRAITS THAT COME WITH ONE'S BIRTH, NO ONE CAN CHANGE IT.
WE CAN NURTURE IT TO LET IT EXPRESS IN AN ANGLE WE WANT, BUT CANNOT CHANGE
THE TRAITS.
【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: I don't believe 20多万 could change one's personality/characteristic
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 24 It's not the 20多万 can change one's personality. Education is an investment
, which is the opportunity cost of that 200 K, can change or modify your
views of the world, or everything.
If you go deep and ask, what's personality/characteristic? You can write a
30 pages or more in explaining that.
Make complicate things simple, for example, you saw a half full glass of
water before with the previous influence from your parents/family, but you
learned to see a half empty glass afterward.
【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: I don't believe 20多万 could change one's personality/characteristic
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 25 I disagree with the first sentence...
Once there was a very rare case, a baby was raised by a wolf for 7 years,
and he completely acts like a wolf in every aspect until people found him.
.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: AGLEE
: THERE ARE TOO MANY TRAITS THAT COME WITH ONE'S BIRTH, NO ONE CAN CHANGE IT.
: WE CAN NURTURE IT TO LET IT EXPRESS IN AN ANGLE WE WANT, BUT CANNOT CHANGE
: THE TRAITS.
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 26
SO I THINK U DO NOT BELIEVE IN TALENT?
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: I disagree with the first sentence...
: Once there was a very rare case, a baby was raised by a wolf for 7 years,
: and he completely acts like a wolf in every aspect until people found him.
:
: .
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 27 Talent is different from personality/behavior.
Talent is a gift to some people, but personality/characteristics can be
trained. They are not innate.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: SO I THINK U DO NOT BELIEVE IN TALENT?
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 28
WHAT CAN BE TRAINED IS MANNER.
PERSONALITY IS WHERE ONE'S EDGE IS. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN WAY TO PUSH THE
ENVELOPE, THIS IS THEIR TALENT AND PERSONALITY.
I SEE IDENTICAL TWINS WITH SAME EDUCATION COME WITH DIFFERENT PERSONALITY.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Talent is different from personality/behavior.
: Talent is a gift to some people, but personality/characteristics can be
: trained. They are not innate.
|
b********r
发帖数: 7725 | 29 触及灵魂？
这是文革语气阿
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: WHAT CAN BE TRAINED IS MANNER.
: PERSONALITY IS WHERE ONE'S EDGE IS. EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN WAY TO PUSH THE
: ENVELOPE, THIS IS THEIR TALENT AND PERSONALITY.
: I SEE IDENTICAL TWINS WITH SAME EDUCATION COME WITH DIFFERENT PERSONALITY.
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 30
THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY FUNNY.
ATHEISTS DO NOT THINK PEOPLE HAVE SOULS.
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: 触及灵魂？
: 这是文革语气阿
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b********r
发帖数: 7725 | 31 有暴力倾向不等于有家暴倾向
人需要平衡调节
出现暴力或者家暴倾向
可以在其他方面得以缓解
内在性格强烈或温和
在不同情况下有不同的优缺点
不能一概而论 |
b********r
发帖数: 7725 | 32 又下乘了
骂人乌龟王八蛋
并不等于骂人者认为被骂者是乌龟王八蛋变来的
这个是修辞手法
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY FUNNY.
: ATHEISTS DO NOT THINK PEOPLE HAVE SOULS.
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b********r
发帖数: 7725 | 33 correct
talent comes with personality. in most cases, talent always means extreme
personality.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY FUNNY.
: ATHEISTS DO NOT THINK PEOPLE HAVE SOULS.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 34
aglee
violence is our nature. it comes from our evolution, without violence, human
race would not have been in the first place. getting socialized is to
organize and direct all these natures in a way that maximize utility. we
need organized violence to protect our freedom.
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: 有暴力倾向不等于有家暴倾向
: 人需要平衡调节
: 出现暴力或者家暴倾向
: 可以在其他方面得以缓解
: 内在性格强烈或温和
: 在不同情况下有不同的优缺点
: 不能一概而论
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b********r
发帖数: 7725 | 35 such a great excuse to get beaten up...
most ppl here choose free their violence right at the this spot.
human
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: aglee
: violence is our nature. it comes from our evolution, without violence, human
: race would not have been in the first place. getting socialized is to
: organize and direct all these natures in a way that maximize utility. we
: need organized violence to protect our freedom.
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 36 Manner, it's the way of acting, it's more about one's mood or temper. You
have good personality, but you can have bad manner while you are in a bad
mood.
Personality: a person as an embodiment of a collection of qualities. Or the
quality of being a person; existence as a self-conscious human being;
personal identity.(from Dictionary) The most important word in explaining
personality is quality. People need to be educated (trained) to have good
quality. Obviously, domestic violence is not part of quality.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: aglee
: violence is our nature. it comes from our evolution, without violence, human
: race would not have been in the first place. getting socialized is to
: organize and direct all these natures in a way that maximize utility. we
: need organized violence to protect our freedom.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 37
I SAID ORGANIZED VIOLENCE, MAN.
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: such a great excuse to get beaten up...
: most ppl here choose free their violence right at the this spot.
:
: human
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 38 You maybe right under certain conditions, but I don't agree...
Violence is not part of nature, it's orgin is conflict, and is escalated by
desire/hunger/greedy.
Nature has nothing to do with violence.
human
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: I SAID ORGANIZED VIOLENCE, MAN.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 39
the
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS MANNER.
FOR PERSONALITY, YOU CAN REFER TO JUNG'S PERSONALITY MATRIX. YES, IT CAN
CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT WILL NOT CHANGE SO MUCH.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Manner, it's the way of acting, it's more about one's mood or temper. You
: have good personality, but you can have bad manner while you are in a bad
: mood.
: Personality: a person as an embodiment of a collection of qualities. Or the
: quality of being a person; existence as a self-conscious human being;
: personal identity.(from Dictionary) The most important word in explaining
: personality is quality. People need to be educated (trained) to have good
: quality. Obviously, domestic violence is not part of quality.
|
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 40
by
WOMEN ALWAYS THINK WHEN THEY GIVE MEN ENOUGH LOVE, MEN CAN BE NON-VIOLENT.
THAT IS WHY THEY BECOME VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. LOVE CANNOT CHANGE THE
FACT THAT MEN ARE NATURAL HUNTERS AND FIGHTERS, LOVE CAN ONLY DIRECT MEN'S
VIOLENCE TO COMMON ENEMIES.
ANYWAY, MEN ARE FROM MARS, WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: You maybe right under certain conditions, but I don't agree...
: Violence is not part of nature, it's orgin is conflict, and is escalated by
: desire/hunger/greedy.
: Nature has nothing to do with violence.
:
: human
|
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 41 From these words, I can feel that it might express yourself a bit.....
although I may completely wrong...
Like the half full/empty glass, you are giving your love, (filling the glass
to full), but the other also feels it? or he feels the empty side and needs
more...
Love? again, a bit more deep, what's love? and what kind of love both sides
need?
Violence is barbarous...no matter onto which side..it's not consider quality
....And all we need is quality life, the fundamental need of human existence
...
THE
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: by
: WOMEN ALWAYS THINK WHEN THEY GIVE MEN ENOUGH LOVE, MEN CAN BE NON-VIOLENT.
: THAT IS WHY THEY BECOME VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. LOVE CANNOT CHANGE THE
: FACT THAT MEN ARE NATURAL HUNTERS AND FIGHTERS, LOVE CAN ONLY DIRECT MEN'S
: VIOLENCE TO COMMON ENEMIES.
: ANYWAY, MEN ARE FROM MARS, WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 42
glass
needs
sides
quality
existence
'Violence is barbarous.'OMG, THAT IS WHY ALL GREAT CIVILIZATIONS FELL IN THE
HAND OF BARBARIANS. IF YOU WANT HUMAN EXISTENCE, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE
CAPABILITY TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: From these words, I can feel that it might express yourself a bit.....
: although I may completely wrong...
: Like the half full/empty glass, you are giving your love, (filling the glass
: to full), but the other also feels it? or he feels the empty side and needs
: more...
: Love? again, a bit more deep, what's love? and what kind of love both sides
: need?
: Violence is barbarous...no matter onto which side..it's not consider quality
: ....And all we need is quality life, the fundamental need of human existence
: ...
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 43 Most people are greedy on everything, including "love".
glass
needs
sides
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: From these words, I can feel that it might express yourself a bit.....
: although I may completely wrong...
: Like the half full/empty glass, you are giving your love, (filling the glass
: to full), but the other also feels it? or he feels the empty side and needs
: more...
: Love? again, a bit more deep, what's love? and what kind of love both sides
: need?
: Violence is barbarous...no matter onto which side..it's not consider quality
: ....And all we need is quality life, the fundamental need of human existence
: ...
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 44
THAT IS NOT LOVE, IT IS POSSESSION.
【在 r*******t 的大作中提到】
: Most people are greedy on everything, including "love".
:
: glass
: needs
: sides
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 45 umm...the topic has been extended.....
THE
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: THAT IS NOT LOVE, IT IS POSSESSION.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 46
ACTUALLY I LIKE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION.
WE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED WITHOUT CRITICAL DISCUSSION.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: umm...the topic has been extended.....
:
: THE
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 47 Once you have your own belief, life becomes more easier, (or may not be at
the beginning). From my point of view, I don't understand, or may NEVER
understand why such a higher educated person can not control his/her rage.
If you are not happy, what does the PhD for??
We may say it's a cultural issue: we live in the world of 攀比， or others'
eyes. No matter how bad inside the house, but we need to make it look good
when we go out the door.....
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: ACTUALLY I LIKE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION.
: WE SHOULD TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED WITHOUT CRITICAL DISCUSSION.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 48
'
WELL, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THIS FAMILY HAS THIS DOMESTIC PROBLEMS EVEN
THOUGH THEY BOTH HAVE GRADUATE DEGREE. THIS IS SO TYPICAL WSNISM: 有知识没文
化. SOME WSN CAN CONTROL THEMSELVES, BUT THIS COUPLE CANNOT BECAUSE THEY
KEEP PUSHING EACH OTHER'S ENVELOPE.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Once you have your own belief, life becomes more easier, (or may not be at
: the beginning). From my point of view, I don't understand, or may NEVER
: understand why such a higher educated person can not control his/her rage.
: If you are not happy, what does the PhD for??
: We may say it's a cultural issue: we live in the world of 攀比， or others'
: eyes. No matter how bad inside the house, but we need to make it look good
: when we go out the door.....
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 49 It's a cliche, life is hard, it has up and down. EVERYONE knows that. But we
need to deal with it, and more practically, how? Again, I believe higher
education will help with this. If this couple are "educated", there are many
ways to choose rather than hitting each other. But they chose domestic
violence.
Once people start asking why? and think more. the situation won't end up
like this.
I still remember a philosophy professor's word: Religion and science are
both ways to explain the universe, but the science way is better.
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: '
: WELL, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THIS FAMILY HAS THIS DOMESTIC PROBLEMS EVEN
: THOUGH THEY BOTH HAVE GRADUATE DEGREE. THIS IS SO TYPICAL WSNISM: 有知识没文
: 化. SOME WSN CAN CONTROL THEMSELVES, BUT THIS COUPLE CANNOT BECAUSE THEY
: KEEP PUSHING EACH OTHER'S ENVELOPE.
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r*******t
发帖数: 8550 | 50 Many people mistakenly thought going to a good name univ is equal to getting
good education.
we
many
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's a cliche, life is hard, it has up and down. EVERYONE knows that. But we
: need to deal with it, and more practically, how? Again, I believe higher
: education will help with this. If this couple are "educated", there are many
: ways to choose rather than hitting each other. But they chose domestic
: violence.
: Once people start asking why? and think more. the situation won't end up
: like this.
: I still remember a philosophy professor's word: Religion and science are
: both ways to explain the universe, but the science way is better.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 51
we
many
THERE IS ALSO A PERSPECTIVE ISSUE. THEY BOTH THINK THEY INVESTED SO MUCH IN
THEIR DEGREE, SO THEY DESERVE GOOD PAYBACK. AS THEY THINK THEMSELVES TO BE
ELITES, THEY THINK HARDSHIP ONLY BELONGS TO THOSE WITH LOWER DEGREES AND
FORGET LIFE IS DOOMED TO BE HARD.
THEY ANALYSIS CAN GO ON AND ON. SOMEHOW EMBEDDED IN CHINESE MENTALITY THAT
HIGH DEGREE EQUALS SOCIAL STATUS, WHICH IS JUST SO BIASED IN THE MARKET
ECONOMY.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: It's a cliche, life is hard, it has up and down. EVERYONE knows that. But we
: need to deal with it, and more practically, how? Again, I believe higher
: education will help with this. If this couple are "educated", there are many
: ways to choose rather than hitting each other. But they chose domestic
: violence.
: Once people start asking why? and think more. the situation won't end up
: like this.
: I still remember a philosophy professor's word: Religion and science are
: both ways to explain the universe, but the science way is better.
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s******r
发帖数: 600 | 52 re
【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: 教育 has nothing to do with one's su zhi
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 53 I think because of 攀比..and other people's eyes. Those who go to so called
top schools can look down and say, hey, I graduated from such such...school.
.(who cares?)
The ranking is important in giving guides to people to choose their own
education and is not used to look down others..(a lot of people will argue)
In terms of humanity education, liberal art colleges are the best, although
those prestigious school also emphasize on small classes....
Graduate school is specified in a very small area.....
getting
【在 r*******t 的大作中提到】
: Many people mistakenly thought going to a good name univ is equal to getting
: good education.
:
: we
: many
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 54 I am surprised many people think 教育 has nothing to do with 素质。。。
Maybe you are also surprised why I am surprised.....LOL......
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: re
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 55
THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CONNOTATION OF THE WORD "EDUCATION"
FROM YOUR PREVIOUS THREADS, YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU THINK
EDUCATION IS SCHOOLING.
IF YOU GO BACK TO A DEEPER MEANING OF EDUCATION, THINKING ABOUT WORDS LIKE
有教无类，养不教父之过, 师者传道授业解惑, U WILL FIND OTHERS ARE TALKING
ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE THAT SCHOOLING IS TOO LIMITED.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: I am surprised many people think 教育 has nothing to do with 素质。。。
: Maybe you are also surprised why I am surprised.....LOL......
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 56 Yes, I do mean higher education is in college/grad school, etc..Getting
formal education has far more chance to improve one's personality than
learning on their own. I didn't exclude the possibilities of affection from
parents, which are equality important as schooling.
养不教父之过, Those words are from anent time, it's nothing wrong, but it's
not completely right, either. I think the mother has more influence on the
kids than the father....
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CONNOTATION OF THE WORD "EDUCATION"
: FROM YOUR PREVIOUS THREADS, YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU THINK
: EDUCATION IS SCHOOLING.
: IF YOU GO BACK TO A DEEPER MEANING OF EDUCATION, THINKING ABOUT WORDS LIKE
: 有教无类，养不教父之过, 师者传道授业解惑, U WILL FIND OTHERS ARE TALKING
: ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE THAT SCHOOLING IS TOO LIMITED.
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m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 57
from
s
actually 养不教父之过 tells the difference of mother and father's role in a
child's development. mother's role is to 养, father's role is to 教. men can
hold on to their values in a wise way, but women can't. 养 is to train the
kid how to feel their instinct, care for others and reveal their conscience,
in chinese context, we call it 天良. 教 is to teach them values, faith,
belief, social interaction, techniques and wisdom, in chinese context, we
call it 道.
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: Yes, I do mean higher education is in college/grad school, etc..Getting
: formal education has far more chance to improve one's personality than
: learning on their own. I didn't exclude the possibilities of affection from
: parents, which are equality important as schooling.
: 养不教父之过, Those words are from anent time, it's nothing wrong, but it's
: not completely right, either. I think the mother has more influence on the
: kids than the father....
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m*******y
发帖数: 14292 | 58 其实LZ自己也说了呀 主人公俩上了学 但是没学到什么 混得到文凭的人太多了 真正受
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a*o
发帖数: 25262 | 59 I like this analysis...
a
can
the
conscience,
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
:
: from
: s
: actually 养不教父之过 tells the difference of mother and father's role in a
: child's development. mother's role is to 养, father's role is to 教. men can
: hold on to their values in a wise way, but women can't. 养 is to train the
: kid how to feel their instinct, care for others and reveal their conscience,
: in chinese context, we call it 天良. 教 is to teach them values, faith,
: belief, social interaction, techniques and wisdom, in chinese context, we
: call it 道.
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