a****e
发帖数: 1560 | 1 在知识面前，还是谦虚一点的好。其实资料挺多的，看看再发表意见吧。
这里是有点简单的，也有点学术背景，可以帮助了解。
不是终极结论，至少可以用来讨论。
http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/philosophy/Personnel/susan/Luc
Plant consciousness has long been seen by many as a crazy idea proliferated
by hippies and the such like.
We can physically experience the concept of our own consciousness and are
therby willing to extend it to other humans simply on the basis of a common
sense conception of it.
We are willing to give weight to the concept that animals are conscious on
the basis of one on one interaction at the very least with higher order
animals.
We can see and interpret their behaviour in such a way that not giving them
consciousness seems absurd.
On the basis of this interaction we are even willing to grant consciousness
to lower order animals and find many examples of evidence to back up such
claims. However, when the same evidence is produced to verify the existence
of plant consciousness it is not taken seriously.
It is a common misconception to believe that no such evidence exists, it
does.
Much of this evidence is based of scientific experiments but it is very
difficult to entirely isolate the experiments as the experimenter plays a
very important role which has been under estimated by much of the scientific
community. There is other evidence of plant consciousness with a much less
empirical and rational basis behind it. People claim to have had psycic
communication with plants and other experiences of a similar nature, these
are much more difficult to verify unless you gain personal experience of it
yourself. |
m*****5
发帖数: 23482 | 2 据说植物有感觉，但不进入轮回通道，所以我们可以尽情欺负它们 |
y*e
发帖数: 9799 | 3 ⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯
【在 m*****5 的大作中提到】
: 据说植物有感觉，但不进入轮回通道，所以我们可以尽情欺负它们
|
V*****8
发帖数: 33122 | 4 我的富贵竹，5年前买来的时候才一根指头那么高，现在已经快两尺了。 |
k*****y
发帖数: 4550 | |
y*e
发帖数: 9799 | 6 我现在相信你是科学家了～～～～科学家对人们抱有纯真美好的期望～～～可是现实生
活中，人们连鸳鸯蝴蝶派的小说都懒得理，谁还会读你的资料啊？你指望人家看了这些
资料之后跟你进行学术上的辩论吗？不会的，你矬到人家的短处，人家多半会写很多站
内信问候你的父母⋯⋯
proliferated
common
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】
: 在知识面前，还是谦虚一点的好。其实资料挺多的，看看再发表意见吧。
: 这里是有点简单的，也有点学术背景，可以帮助了解。
: 不是终极结论，至少可以用来讨论。
: http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/philosophy/Personnel/susan/Luc
: Plant consciousness has long been seen by many as a crazy idea proliferated
: by hippies and the such like.
: We can physically experience the concept of our own consciousness and are
: therby willing to extend it to other humans simply on the basis of a common
: sense conception of it.
: We are willing to give weight to the concept that animals are conscious on
|
g*******a
发帖数: 31586 | 7
菊花呢？
【在 k*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我的兰花，去年开了3次
|
a****e
发帖数: 1560 | 8 呵呵，没关系啦。讨论不讨论是他们的事。东西放在那里就是。
我的心情也不会被别人左右，自己忙着呢。。。
【在 y*e 的大作中提到】
: 我现在相信你是科学家了～～～～科学家对人们抱有纯真美好的期望～～～可是现实生
: 活中，人们连鸳鸯蝴蝶派的小说都懒得理，谁还会读你的资料啊？你指望人家看了这些
: 资料之后跟你进行学术上的辩论吗？不会的，你矬到人家的短处，人家多半会写很多站
: 内信问候你的父母⋯⋯
:
: proliferated
: common
|
b********d
发帖数: 393 | 9 这个要顶。。
【在 g*******a 的大作中提到】
:
: 菊花呢？
|
a*o
发帖数: 25262 | |
|
|
j******3
发帖数: 508 | 11 re
【在 a*o 的大作中提到】
: 含羞草。。
|
R***Z
发帖数: 1167 | 12 植物当然有意识，所以才能大战同样有意识的僵尸
proliferated
common
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】
: 在知识面前，还是谦虚一点的好。其实资料挺多的，看看再发表意见吧。
: 这里是有点简单的，也有点学术背景，可以帮助了解。
: 不是终极结论，至少可以用来讨论。
: http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/philosophy/Personnel/susan/Luc
: Plant consciousness has long been seen by many as a crazy idea proliferated
: by hippies and the such like.
: We can physically experience the concept of our own consciousness and are
: therby willing to extend it to other humans simply on the basis of a common
: sense conception of it.
: We are willing to give weight to the concept that animals are conscious on
|
Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 13 说明植物人这个专业名词自相矛盾是个伪命题。
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】
: 在知识面前，还是谦虚一点的好。其实资料挺多的，看看再发表意见吧。
: 这里是有点简单的，也有点学术背景，可以帮助了解。
: 不是终极结论，至少可以用来讨论。
: http://www.gla.ac.uk/departments/philosophy/Personnel/susan/Luc
: Plant consciousness has long been seen by many as a crazy idea proliferated
: by hippies and the such like.
: We can physically experience the concept of our own consciousness and are
: therby willing to extend it to other humans simply on the basis of a common
: sense conception of it.
: We are willing to give weight to the concept that animals are conscious on
|
a****e
发帖数: 1560 | 14 不矛盾。植物人说的是人家大脑和部分神经有活动，但不完全。虽然不能控制很多器官
，但对有些脏器还是有控
制的。
【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】
: 说明植物人这个专业名词自相矛盾是个伪命题。
|
Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 15 嗯，那反过来，植物人这个名词能够存在，本身就说明了大家承认植物是有意识的。
【在 a****e 的大作中提到】
: 不矛盾。植物人说的是人家大脑和部分神经有活动，但不完全。虽然不能控制很多器官
: ，但对有些脏器还是有控
: 制的。
|
a****e
发帖数: 1560 | 16 这个有可能，不过不知道谁第一个用这个词。
植物有意识只能说一些专家有了解，多数人没概念吧，算不上大家。
【在 Z*****l 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，那反过来，植物人这个名词能够存在，本身就说明了大家承认植物是有意识的。
|
b**********8
发帖数: 286 | |
