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Outdoors版 - Dragontail Serpentine Arete 8/1/09
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p*******r
发帖数: 180
1
The day went something like this:
Left Seattle @ 0330
Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
swim
Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)
Back to Seattle @ 1700
Walked Sam around Green Lake
Had dinner then called it a day…Zzz..Zzz…
Can’t think of
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
2
you guys were fast

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: The day went something like this:
: Left Seattle @ 0330
: Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
: Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
: Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
: Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
: Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
: Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
: swim
: Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
3
wait, you free-soloed it...
crazy

quick

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: you guys were fast
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
4
holy...

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: wait, you free-soloed it...
: crazy
:
: quick

b***y
发帖数: 824
5
holy moly
s****y
发帖数: 2159
6
hoho..
赞奔。。

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: The day went something like this:
: Left Seattle @ 0330
: Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
: Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
: Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
: Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
: Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
: Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
: swim
: Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
7
一看就是不看内容只看照片的

quick

【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: hoho..
: 赞奔。。

s****y
发帖数: 2159
8
冤枉我
内容照片都看了。。

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 一看就是不看内容只看照片的
:
: quick

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
9
写个总结

【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: 冤枉我
: 内容照片都看了。。

s****y
发帖数: 2159
10
干嘛,考试啊。
人一个人,爬山,裸泳,走路,free solo, 很享受--总结完

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 写个总结
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s****y
发帖数: 2159
11
还有奔得很大方,赞一个。

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 写个总结
T*********e
发帖数: 39815
12
明显是在敷衍

【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: 干嘛,考试啊。
: 人一个人,爬山,裸泳,走路,free solo, 很享受--总结完

y*****y
发帖数: 3433
13
进来崇拜一下。

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: The day went something like this:
: Left Seattle @ 0330
: Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
: Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
: Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
: Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
: Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
: Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
: swim
: Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)

b*******y
发帖数: 447
14
厉害厉害。下次也应该去尝试下。

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: The day went something like this:
: Left Seattle @ 0330
: Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
: Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
: Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
: Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
: Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
: Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
: swim
: Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)

q*n
发帖数: 1203
15
wow...hot!

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: The day went something like this:
: Left Seattle @ 0330
: Got to Leavenworth @ 0545
: Left car & started from TH @ 0615, 3,410 ft
: Arrived @the 1st pitch of Serpentine Arete @ 0850, 6,800 ft
: Began climbing @ 0930, 6,800 ft
: Standing on summit @ 1120, 8,840 ft
: Long boring walk down Asgard Pass then jumped in Colchuck Lake for a quick
: swim
: Back to car @ 1405 (8hrs car to car; 10 mi, 5,400 ft gain)

s******y
发帖数: 121
16
Bold. But I won't do it this way.
The first 5.8 is actually quite stiff. I did the flaring finger crack 15 ft
to the right of the pillar. I don't even know where the second 5.8 is since
everything else feels a lot easier.
S********t
发帖数: 18987
17
版上的ID不要去搞SOLO,为自己好也为别人好

【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: 厉害厉害。下次也应该去尝试下。
T********d
发帖数: 621
18
Support!
Support!!
Support!!!

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 版上的ID不要去搞SOLO,为自己好也为别人好
p*******r
发帖数: 180
19
I was thinking about photoshopping a cat or dog head to cover mine...hehe

【在 s****y 的大作中提到】
: 干嘛,考试啊。
: 人一个人,爬山,裸泳,走路,free solo, 很享受--总结完

p*******r
发帖数: 180
20
yeah it was pretty hot. Leavenworth was supposed to be over 100 degree that
day. I forgot sun screen and burnt my neck. Now call me a redneck.

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: wow...hot!
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p*******r
发帖数: 180
21
supposedly the 2nd 5.8 is right above the finger crack according to the
guidebook. But it feels more like a 5.7. The rest is 5.easy or 4th class
like you said.
the dihedral is about 15 ft left of the finger crack. there is a double
crack systme about 5 to 6 ft right to the finger crack and is supposed to be
a bit easier. I did find the flare finger crack a bit sandbagged.
Most people won't do it this way. It is a rather personal and rational
choice.

ft
since

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: Bold. But I won't do it this way.
: The first 5.8 is actually quite stiff. I did the flaring finger crack 15 ft
: to the right of the pillar. I don't even know where the second 5.8 is since
: everything else feels a lot easier.

p*******r
发帖数: 180
22
decision like this come from within and is based on the mental and physical
readiness. there is fundamental difference between calculated actions and
reckless behaviors. you can't talk someone out of it, just like you can't
talk someone into it.

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 版上的ID不要去搞SOLO,为自己好也为别人好
q*n
发帖数: 1203
23
agreed, good luck and enjoy the journey.

physical

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: decision like this come from within and is based on the mental and physical
: readiness. there is fundamental difference between calculated actions and
: reckless behaviors. you can't talk someone out of it, just like you can't
: talk someone into it.

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
24
I have seen many people who are climbing what they should not be climbing

physical

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: decision like this come from within and is based on the mental and physical
: readiness. there is fundamental difference between calculated actions and
: reckless behaviors. you can't talk someone out of it, just like you can't
: talk someone into it.

S********t
发帖数: 18987
25
我可不知道哪个ID是READY的哪个又不READY,都是成人,自己给自己负责,
我尽我的GOOD WILL说一句而已, 既然做版主, 就得多管点闲事,
再说了为了避免万一有家属来责备版主未尽劝说的责任,至少这里可以立字为据.
记得当初老狼要陪某ID走啥危险路线,结果诸多家属出来骂个狗血喷头,
即使不替ID们着想,也要替其家属着想,建议LZ也不要再SOLO,maybe can't talk
someone out of it,但是私下里BSO就好了,不要再贴出来带来坏的影响,这世界上不知
深浅的莽汉多的很.

physical

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: decision like this come from within and is based on the mental and physical
: readiness. there is fundamental difference between calculated actions and
: reckless behaviors. you can't talk someone out of it, just like you can't
: talk someone into it.

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
26
there is nothing wrong with soloing, it's just another way of climbing, and
it's a personal choice, although I woudln't do it. maybe it's just that I am
not ready. who knows.

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 我可不知道哪个ID是READY的哪个又不READY,都是成人,自己给自己负责,
: 我尽我的GOOD WILL说一句而已, 既然做版主, 就得多管点闲事,
: 再说了为了避免万一有家属来责备版主未尽劝说的责任,至少这里可以立字为据.
: 记得当初老狼要陪某ID走啥危险路线,结果诸多家属出来骂个狗血喷头,
: 即使不替ID们着想,也要替其家属着想,建议LZ也不要再SOLO,maybe can't talk
: someone out of it,但是私下里BSO就好了,不要再贴出来带来坏的影响,这世界上不知
: 深浅的莽汉多的很.
:
: physical

S********t
发帖数: 18987
27
不能苟同, 你这只是以个人作为SCOPE,
即使我100%自信CONFIDENT,100% READY我也不会去SOLO,
因为你的家人,你的朋友并不CONFIDENT,并不READY,
这是把自己的一时兴奋建筑在别人的担心上,
如果自己的家人朋友都已经不在乎你了, 或者这世界上没有什么可值得关心的人了,
那么你真的READY FOR SOLOING了.

and
am

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: there is nothing wrong with soloing, it's just another way of climbing, and
: it's a personal choice, although I woudln't do it. maybe it's just that I am
: not ready. who knows.

p**********t
发帖数: 2636
28
I won't solo in purpose. However, in fact my partner and I soloed lots of
lower 5th class and there may even be some 5.9 that we soloed with a 20 lb
pack during the Wind River climb the past week. If you put in pros in every
place you'll never be able to finish a lot of the lines and get back before
the 2pm storm hits (we were caught in one and narrowly escaped one last week)
It's all personal choice and judgement. I put in pros a lot more often than
my partner, and still, we end up having to gi

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: supposedly the 2nd 5.8 is right above the finger crack according to the
: guidebook. But it feels more like a 5.7. The rest is 5.easy or 4th class
: like you said.
: the dihedral is about 15 ft left of the finger crack. there is a double
: crack systme about 5 to 6 ft right to the finger crack and is supposed to be
: a bit easier. I did find the flare finger crack a bit sandbagged.
: Most people won't do it this way. It is a rather personal and rational
: choice.
:
: ft

S********t
发帖数: 18987
29
Free soloing是Climbing的一种, 这是一回事,
soloing是另一回事,是指一个人干什么,可以是爬山,也可以是潜水,
不是说只有攀岩才有这样的TERM,
我反对的是一个人去荒野里,这样一旦出问题就没救,
你的Free soloing旁边都有PARTNER和我说的不是一回事情,也和水平高不高没关系.

every
before
week)
than
line
experienced,

【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】
: I won't solo in purpose. However, in fact my partner and I soloed lots of
: lower 5th class and there may even be some 5.9 that we soloed with a 20 lb
: pack during the Wind River climb the past week. If you put in pros in every
: place you'll never be able to finish a lot of the lines and get back before
: the 2pm storm hits (we were caught in one and narrowly escaped one last week)
: It's all personal choice and judgement. I put in pros a lot more often than
: my partner, and still, we end up having to gi

m***h
发帖数: 23691
30
版主在标题上加上切勿跟风模仿就好。毕竟都是成人,自己对自己负责。

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: Free soloing是Climbing的一种, 这是一回事,
: soloing是另一回事,是指一个人干什么,可以是爬山,也可以是潜水,
: 不是说只有攀岩才有这样的TERM,
: 我反对的是一个人去荒野里,这样一旦出问题就没救,
: 你的Free soloing旁边都有PARTNER和我说的不是一回事情,也和水平高不高没关系.
:
: every
: before
: week)
: than

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p*******r
发帖数: 180
31
I do see some once in a while, not often though. good thing is that people
with common sense make up most of the population. but that doesn't prevent f
*ckups from f*cking things up, regardless what you tell or don't tell them,
that is exactly why preaching like "yeah you should do it or no you should
not do it" is remotely useless, especially coming from someone who doesn't
have deep understanding of climbing.

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: I have seen many people who are climbing what they should not be climbing
:
: physical

f********t
发帖数: 4574
32
不用这么绝对吧。一个人出去有很多东西(乐趣)是两人或叽叽喳喳一堆人无法体会到
的,比如solitude,take calculated risk,等等。你如果不喜欢,但然无法理解。
我玩户外的一个主要原因就是随着年龄增大,心态逐渐红脖,不像年轻的时候喜欢去人
多热闹的地方。玩户外最大的梦想就是那天NB了,可以有机会一个人玩些有难度的路线。

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: Free soloing是Climbing的一种, 这是一回事,
: soloing是另一回事,是指一个人干什么,可以是爬山,也可以是潜水,
: 不是说只有攀岩才有这样的TERM,
: 我反对的是一个人去荒野里,这样一旦出问题就没救,
: 你的Free soloing旁边都有PARTNER和我说的不是一回事情,也和水平高不高没关系.
:
: every
: before
: week)
: than

p*******r
发帖数: 180
33
thanks. same to you.

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: agreed, good luck and enjoy the journey.
:
: physical

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
34
natural selection is sometimes the ultimate solution, sadly.

f
,

【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: I do see some once in a while, not often though. good thing is that people
: with common sense make up most of the population. but that doesn't prevent f
: *ckups from f*cking things up, regardless what you tell or don't tell them,
: that is exactly why preaching like "yeah you should do it or no you should
: not do it" is remotely useless, especially coming from someone who doesn't
: have deep understanding of climbing.

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
35
natural selection faded in human society

people
prevent
them
should
't

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: natural selection is sometimes the ultimate solution, sadly.
:
: f
: ,

S********t
发帖数: 18987
36
好象有些贴被删了,我也不想说了,点到即可,
想怎么玩是自己的事, 没有逼谁不许冒险的意思.

线。

【在 f********t 的大作中提到】
: 不用这么绝对吧。一个人出去有很多东西(乐趣)是两人或叽叽喳喳一堆人无法体会到
: 的,比如solitude,take calculated risk,等等。你如果不喜欢,但然无法理解。
: 我玩户外的一个主要原因就是随着年龄增大,心态逐渐红脖,不像年轻的时候喜欢去人
: 多热闹的地方。玩户外最大的梦想就是那天NB了,可以有机会一个人玩些有难度的路线。

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
37
嗯哪.
昨晚后来有些帖子比较无聊,我删了
大家玩好,注意安全,是这里的主题.

会到
去人

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 好象有些贴被删了,我也不想说了,点到即可,
: 想怎么玩是自己的事, 没有逼谁不许冒险的意思.
:
: 线。

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
38
后来就是灌纯水了,删了挺好

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯哪.
: 昨晚后来有些帖子比较无聊,我删了
: 大家玩好,注意安全,是这里的主题.
:
: 会到
: 去人

q*n
发帖数: 1203
39
miss八卦了,睡的早的人就是吃亏。。

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯哪.
: 昨晚后来有些帖子比较无聊,我删了
: 大家玩好,注意安全,是这里的主题.
:
: 会到
: 去人

T*********e
发帖数: 39815
40
bso你现在作息正常

【在 q*n 的大作中提到】
: miss八卦了,睡的早的人就是吃亏。。
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f********t
发帖数: 4574
41
我说这楼怎么爬也没有97层,原来被删了

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 好象有些贴被删了,我也不想说了,点到即可,
: 想怎么玩是自己的事, 没有逼谁不许冒险的意思.
:
: 线。

q*n
发帖数: 1203
42
yeah, i will let you know next time there are any 8g at 7:30am pst time. :)

【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】
: bso你现在作息正常
b*******y
发帖数: 447
43
不去solo,去看看风景hoho

【在 S********t 的大作中提到】
: 版上的ID不要去搞SOLO,为自己好也为别人好
o*****t
发帖数: 227
44
好贴!pdxbrewer
1 (共1页)
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