c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 1 if you have any gear shopping to do, you'd better do it before August |
p**********t 发帖数: 2636 | 2 这是来自MS的内部消息?
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you have any gear shopping to do, you'd better do it before August
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 3 今天应该已经公布了
【在 p**********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这是来自MS的内部消息?
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S********t 发帖数: 18987 | 4 What did you do!
ACF! all cookiejar's fault, lol
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you have any gear shopping to do, you'd better do it before August
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k**e 发帖数: 2728 | 5 入门级别的菜鸟我愣是看不懂... 我有好多东西要屯呢,你说的只是和climbing有关的
吧?
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you have any gear shopping to do, you'd better do it before August
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 6 pretty much. my shopping list is now geared towards a very small area of
specific gears related to, mainly, aid climbing.
but if you have anything shopping to do on, say, moosejaw, it's time
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 入门级别的菜鸟我愣是看不懂... 我有好多东西要屯呢,你说的只是和climbing有关的 : 吧?
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k**e 发帖数: 2728 | 7 这么说我要屯的GPS,罗盘,topographic maps,foam pad,等东西,也该现在出手罗?
我还想屯一副cross country ski,配套的bindings和鞋子,难道也是现在买最好不成
?moosejaw在michigan,想来这
些东西应该也是卖的。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : pretty much. my shopping list is now geared towards a very small area of : specific gears related to, mainly, aid climbing. : but if you have anything shopping to do on, say, moosejaw, it's time
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 8 you'll find sales on these things all the time, no worries
罗?
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么说我要屯的GPS,罗盘,topographic maps,foam pad,等东西,也该现在出手罗? : 我还想屯一副cross country ski,配套的bindings和鞋子,难道也是现在买最好不成 : ?moosejaw在michigan,想来这 : 些东西应该也是卖的。
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f********t 发帖数: 4574 | 9 在可以预见的将来需要填一套小cam,还没决定买啥
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you have any gear shopping to do, you'd better do it before August
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 10 how small is small?
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 在可以预见的将来需要填一套小cam,还没决定买啥
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c*******k 发帖数: 2427 | 11 这样说来,我的list要长得多。其实算还没开始配置设备 lol
罗?
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么说我要屯的GPS,罗盘,topographic maps,foam pad,等东西,也该现在出手罗? : 我还想屯一副cross country ski,配套的bindings和鞋子,难道也是现在买最好不成 : ?moosejaw在michigan,想来这 : 些东西应该也是卖的。
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f********t 发帖数: 4574 | 12 Smaller than C4 .5
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : how small is small?
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 13 I was thinking to get some C3 cams and then I decided to stick to stoppers f
or small cracks.
Unless I climb a long, sustained finger crack route, I don't really need sma
ll cams anyway.
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Smaller than C4 .5
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 14 blue and yellow metolius TCU/Master cam/Ultralight. Unless you are doing aid
climibng or 5.12 and up finger cracks, you don't need anything smaller than
these.
【在 f********t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Smaller than C4 .5
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 15 probably I'll get some C3, or TCU in the future, but not within a year
aid
than
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : blue and yellow metolius TCU/Master cam/Ultralight. Unless you are doing aid : climibng or 5.12 and up finger cracks, you don't need anything smaller than : these.
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 16 I don't like C3s too much. Metolius is the way to go for small cams.
Stoppers don't work as well as cams in pockets. But pockets that small are
way beyond my free climbing ability.
f
sma
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I was thinking to get some C3 cams and then I decided to stick to stoppers f : or small cracks. : Unless I climb a long, sustained finger crack route, I don't really need sma : ll cams anyway.
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 17 Any particular reason for that?
I used both C3s and Metolius from other guys last summer, I actually like C3
s more, their stems are flexible. C3s are more expensive though
For small pockets, tri-cams are the way to go.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't like C3s too much. Metolius is the way to go for small cams. : Stoppers don't work as well as cams in pockets. But pockets that small are : way beyond my free climbing ability. : : f : sma
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 18 Metolius master cams are very flexible and fit in shallow cracks and pin
scars very well. Refer to Chris Mac's reviews on supertopo. TCU and
ultralight have U stems and don't work quite as well. When I say small
pockets, I am talking about really small ones that tricams won't fit, like
those where you can only stick in your pinkie. That's why I said it's way
beyond my free climbing ability.
In general, I don't bring cams smaller than blue metolius on free climbs. I
only lead 5.7s and 5.8s anyway
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Any particular reason for that? : I used both C3s and Metolius from other guys last summer, I actually like C3 : s more, their stems are flexible. C3s are more expensive though : For small pockets, tri-cams are the way to go.
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 19 yep, TCUs have rigid stems, that I don't like much.
Master cams are better, but I don't know if they are better than C3, the pri
ce is good though.
I
't
like
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Metolius master cams are very flexible and fit in shallow cracks and pin : scars very well. Refer to Chris Mac's reviews on supertopo. TCU and : ultralight have U stems and don't work quite as well. When I say small : pockets, I am talking about really small ones that tricams won't fit, like : those where you can only stick in your pinkie. That's why I said it's way : beyond my free climbing ability. : In general, I don't bring cams smaller than blue metolius on free climbs. I : only lead 5.7s and 5.8s anyway
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 20 I personally like them better than C3. I can bring a few tomorrow and you
can check them out.
pri
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yep, TCUs have rigid stems, that I don't like much. : Master cams are better, but I don't know if they are better than C3, the pri : ce is good though. : : I : 't : like
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 21 that would be great, especiall if we can do side-by-side comparison.
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I personally like them better than C3. I can bring a few tomorrow and you : can check them out. : : pri
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q*n 发帖数: 1203 | 22 This is a good review for small cams.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/Articles/Gear_and_Reviews/Metolius_Master_Cam_Editiorial_Review_793.html
and this is the suggestion from a friend:
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Good question and tough choice!
4 choices, tried and proven
-TCU: 0-2 (tried, trued, limited placements)
-Aliens: blue -yellow (Fantastic, soft, quality problems)
-BD C3's: purple - yellow (hard to use, requires special attention, but
awesome holding power)
-Master Cams: 0-2 (Like the aliens, minus the quality issue
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : that would be great, especiall if we can do side-by-side comparison.
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N**D 发帖数: 10322 | 23 那天看见一个摄像头装在goggle里,镜头在鼻梁正上方,两个镜片中间,非常的low
key
【在 q*n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is a good review for small cams. : http://www.rockclimbing.com/Articles/Gear_and_Reviews/Metolius_Master_Cam_Editiorial_Review_793.html : and this is the suggestion from a friend: : " : Good question and tough choice! : 4 choices, tried and proven : -TCU: 0-2 (tried, trued, limited placements) : -Aliens: blue -yellow (Fantastic, soft, quality problems) : -BD C3's: purple - yellow (hard to use, requires special attention, but : awesome holding power)
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