t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 1 这决定不错，穆拉力把福特率先带出金融危机，重塑品牌形象。
穆拉力到福特，做的第一件事情，就是把工程师派到顾客家里去听抱怨，不准说话，不
准争辩，只准把顾客的要求，顾客的抱怨都记下来，回来解决问题。现在微软缺的就是
这个风气，一个烂到家的Windows 8和WP8，都有一帮软工在这个中文论坛上洗地，顾客
不会用，就是顾客智商低。等穆领导上任，先把这些无耻软工都Fire掉。 |
b*******d
发帖数: 5780 | |
o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 3 One Microsoft的政策不变，微软必死。早点把device and service部门独立出去，专
心做android和ios上的软件才是正道。 |
g******e
发帖数: 3760 | 4 说不定真有可能，福特的touch啥的就是软软的。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这决定不错，穆拉力把福特率先带出金融危机，重塑品牌形象。
: 穆拉力到福特，做的第一件事情，就是把工程师派到顾客家里去听抱怨，不准说话，不
: 准争辩，只准把顾客的要求，顾客的抱怨都记下来，回来解决问题。现在微软缺的就是
: 这个风气，一个烂到家的Windows 8和WP8，都有一帮软工在这个中文论坛上洗地，顾客
: 不会用，就是顾客智商低。等穆领导上任，先把这些无耻软工都Fire掉。
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 5 老穆人才难得啊，先波音，再福特，现在要转软件了
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-investors-want-the-com
Microsoft Investors Want The Company To Hire A Turnaround Expert Like Ford
CEO Alan Mulally
(Reuters) - At least three of the top 20 investors in Microsoft Corp want a
turnaround expert to succeed Steve Ballmer as chief executive and have urged
the technology giant's board to consider Ford Motor Co CEO Alan Mulally and
Computer Sciences Corp CEO Mike Lawrie for the job, several sources
familiar with the matter said.
The special committee of the board, which is conducting the CEO search, and
its advisers have been meeting with shareholders after Ballmer's surprise
decision late last month to retire within a year, the sources said. It could
name a CEO as soon as the end of this year, the sources said.
In one such meeting, Microsoft said it started with a list of about 40
people, including internal and external candidates, and has been narrowing
it down, one of the sources said.
It wasn't clear whether the Microsoft board had reached out to any of the
potential candidates suggested by investors or whether it was even
considering them. The names of other candidates in the mix could not be
learned.
Microsoft declined comment on Monday. Lawrie and Mulally could not be
reached for comment. But last week, Mulally told Reuters that he was "
absolutely focused on serving our Ford."
The sources requested their identity as well as those of the investors be
kept anonymous because the discussions were private.
The search for a new chief executive of the world's largest software maker
is one of the most closely watched developments in the technology sector
this year.
Microsoft remains highly profitable, but it has struggled to gain traction
in the mobile device business against rivals such as Apple Inc and Google
Inc.
In July, the company unveiled a deep reorganization to transform into a "
devices and services" leader, but has so far failed to convince investors
that its strategy will work. In a sign that shareholders had already lost
confidence in Ballmer, Microsoft's shares rose 7 percent after news of his
planned retirement.
Last week, Microsoft said it would buy Nokia's phone business and license
its patents for 5.44 billion euros ($7.1 billion). Shares of the software
company fell as much as 6 percent as investors protested the acquisition of
an underperforming and marginalized unit that made a $3 billion operating
loss in 2012.
The move also brings Stephen Elop, who ran Microsoft's business software
division before jumping ship in 2010, back to the company, positioned as
another candidate to succeed Ballmer.
Microsoft Chairman and co-founder Bill Gates, who is still the company's
largest shareholder with a 4.8 percent stake and is on the four-member
special committee, will likely have a veto on the new CEO choice.
Gates, who has focused his day-to-day activities on philanthropy for the
last five years, has not given any indication of what kind of CEO he favors.
TURNAROUND MEN
Investors are attracted to Mulally and Lawrie because both have histories of
successfully turning around companies, although the Ford CEO is more widely
known thanks to his dramatic reversal of the No. 2 U.S. automaker, the
sources said.
Under a succession plan at Ford outlined last November, Mulally, 68, is
expected to stay on as CEO until at least the end of 2014. But people with
knowledge of the matter said the executive may step down sooner than planned
if he finds an appealing new role.
"There is no change from what we announced in November: Alan Mulally plans
to continue to serve as Ford's president and CEO through at least 2014,"
Ford spokesman Jay Cooney said.
A role as the head of Microsoft would allow him to follow up his seven-year
tenure as Ford's CEO with another high-profile job. It would also bring him
back to Seattle, where he lived during his nearly four decades at Boeing Co
and still has a home.
The other candidate on investors' radar is Lawrie, a long-time IT executive
who engineered a complex fix at UK-based Misys Plc, a financial software
company, before joining Computer Sciences in 2012.
Computer Sciences, which is in the midst of a multiyear turnaround plan
under Lawrie, declined to comment.
Lawrie also spent nearly three decades at IBM, where he worked alongside
John Thompson, Microsoft's lead independent director who is heading the
special committee, the sources said.
In 2005, Lawrie worked for about a year as a general partner of activist
investor ValueAct Capital, a Microsoft shareholder that had pressed for
Ballmer's ouster and has been offered a seat on the company's board.
IBM EXPERIENCE
Even though Ballmer was more a salesman than a technology specialist, a
choice of Mulally, who comes from outside the technology sector, would be a
radical departure for the industry.
The major precedent for such a move was IBM's successful hiring of Louis
Gerstner, a manager from the financial industry who turned around the
struggling computer company between 1993 and 2002. John Sculley, who went
from PepsiCo to lead Apple from 1983 to 1993, was not regarded as being very
successful.
Despite its problems, Microsoft is not yet in such a dire predicament as IBM
was in the early 1990s. Microsoft reported a profit of $22 billion last
year, despite falling sales of PCs, which are still the key to its main
businesses.
Its online and mobile computing efforts do not make money. Its Bing search
engine and other online ventures have lost almost $3 billion in the last two
years alone, and last quarter the company took a $900 million write-down on
the value of unsold Surface tablets.
Despite billions of dollars of investment, Windows phones still have less
than a 4 percent global market share, according to the latest figures from
research firm IDC.
【在 g******e 的大作中提到】
: 说不定真有可能，福特的touch啥的就是软软的。
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G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 6 福特没有 PM 吧
当然容易 turn around 了
软软就是被换来换去的 PM 坑死了
a
urged
and
and
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 老穆人才难得啊，先波音，再福特，现在要转软件了
: http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-investors-want-the-com
: Microsoft Investors Want The Company To Hire A Turnaround Expert Like Ford
: CEO Alan Mulally
: (Reuters) - At least three of the top 20 investors in Microsoft Corp want a
: turnaround expert to succeed Steve Ballmer as chief executive and have urged
: the technology giant's board to consider Ford Motor Co CEO Alan Mulally and
: Computer Sciences Corp CEO Mike Lawrie for the job, several sources
: familiar with the matter said.
: The special committee of the board, which is conducting the CEO search, and
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t*******y
发帖数: 21396 | 7 物理定律无法改变，人定得规则都是可以变的。Mullaly在福特把Taurus这牌子给废了
，这就好比在微软废了Windows这品牌一样
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 福特没有 PM 吧
: 当然容易 turn around 了
: 软软就是被换来换去的 PM 坑死了
:
: a
: urged
: and
: and
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G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 8 不过 Fusion, Focus 的牌子起来了
软软还没有起得来的牌子
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 物理定律无法改变，人定得规则都是可以变的。Mullaly在福特把Taurus这牌子给废了
: ，这就好比在微软废了Windows这品牌一样
|
b********7
发帖数: 12906 | |
a******1
发帖数: 2340 | |
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 11 office...
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 不过 Fusion, Focus 的牌子起来了
: 软软还没有起得来的牌子
|
G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 12 office 也是在巅峰位置
提高的余地不大了, 还会被别的 online doc 蚕食
【在 o*******6 的大作中提到】
: office...
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 13 office优势还是很明显的
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: office 也是在巅峰位置
: 提高的余地不大了, 还会被别的 online doc 蚕食
|
G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 14 PC 都卖不动
office 优势也赚不来钱
【在 o*******6 的大作中提到】
: office优势还是很明显的
|
q*c
发帖数: 9453 | 15 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
【在 o*******6 的大作中提到】
: office优势还是很明显的
|
G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 16 当然缺点也很明显
断网就瞎菜了
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
|
R***a
发帖数: 41892 | 17 连格式刷都没有 -- mitbbs
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
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w*****g
发帖数: 16352 | 18 有格式刷么？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
|
b*****e
发帖数: 53215 | 19 peng!
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 有格式刷么？
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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a******1
发帖数: 2340 | 20 google doc界面太丑了吧
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
|
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k***e
发帖数: 7933 | 21 也就勉强能用，怎么比office强得多了？
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
|
k***e
发帖数: 7933 | 22 现在有了吧
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 有格式刷么？
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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d********u
发帖数: 5383 | 23 靠，原来软软挣的钱都是你给印的？
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: 不过 Fusion, Focus 的牌子起来了
: 软软还没有起得来的牌子
|
a********m
发帖数: 15480 | 24 这方法是不错。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这决定不错，穆拉力把福特率先带出金融危机，重塑品牌形象。
: 穆拉力到福特，做的第一件事情，就是把工程师派到顾客家里去听抱怨，不准说话，不
: 准争辩，只准把顾客的要求，顾客的抱怨都记下来，回来解决问题。现在微软缺的就是
: 这个风气，一个烂到家的Windows 8和WP8，都有一帮软工在这个中文论坛上洗地，顾客
: 不会用，就是顾客智商低。等穆领导上任，先把这些无耻软工都Fire掉。
|
o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 25 还没有office web app好用
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 我们现在都用 google doc, 日常使用实在是比 office 强的多。
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 26 提高的余地还很大，vba就需要再增强一下。
另外record macro也可以做得更智能一些。
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: office 也是在巅峰位置
: 提高的余地不大了, 还会被别的 online doc 蚕食
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 27 PC卖不动，MS可以去做mobile app来赚钱。不管在什么硬件上都可以卖软件啊。
所以我说One Microsoft政策不变，微软必死。定位就错了。微软就是个软件公司。什
么平台流行，就在什么平台上做软件，这才是生财之道。
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: PC 都卖不动
: office 优势也赚不来钱
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v******g
发帖数: 1651 | 28 有么 截图来
【在 k***e 的大作中提到】
: 现在有了吧
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 29 俺们不需要很fancy得编辑，但需要很方便的共享和搜索功能，office差多了。
【在 k***e 的大作中提到】
: 也就勉强能用，怎么比office强得多了？
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w*****u
发帖数: 4768 | 30 没有废吧，Taurus现在走中高端路线了
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 物理定律无法改变，人定得规则都是可以变的。Mullaly在福特把Taurus这牌子给废了
: ，这就好比在微软废了Windows这品牌一样
|
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a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 31 mulally到来之日就是MS的死期。他来了估计MS就把除了windows/office之外的全都卖
了。再过几年估计连windows也卖了。
a
urged
and
and
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 老穆人才难得啊，先波音，再福特，现在要转软件了
: http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-investors-want-the-com
: Microsoft Investors Want The Company To Hire A Turnaround Expert Like Ford
: CEO Alan Mulally
: (Reuters) - At least three of the top 20 investors in Microsoft Corp want a
: turnaround expert to succeed Steve Ballmer as chief executive and have urged
: the technology giant's board to consider Ford Motor Co CEO Alan Mulally and
: Computer Sciences Corp CEO Mike Lawrie for the job, several sources
: familiar with the matter said.
: The special committee of the board, which is conducting the CEO search, and
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 32 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (难道不应该这样做？
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: mulally到来之日就是MS的死期。他来了估计MS就把除了windows/office之外的全都卖
: 了。再过几年估计连windows也卖了。
:
: a
: urged
: and
: and
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l********7
发帖数: 1077 | 33 那个taurus不废天理难容
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 物理定律无法改变，人定得规则都是可以变的。Mullaly在福特把Taurus这牌子给废了
: ，这就好比在微软废了Windows这品牌一样
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G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 34 taurus 的 3.0L 发动机还是挺可靠的
用途很广
偶的 freestyle 就是
老款发动机可靠又便宜
【在 l********7 的大作中提到】
: 那个taurus不废天理难容
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l********7
发帖数: 1077 | 35 光发动机可靠不够啊
我有两个最好的朋友开得都是Taurus，最后都死在了transmission上。
那个老款的taurus，05年前的，我朋友居然在夏天把transmission fluid开沸腾了，只
能换到倒挡，不能前进，最后把车给倒回家了。回家去用户论坛上一查，他并不是一个
人的战斗，许多人都有同样的遭遇，网上还有专门设计的aftermarket散热风扇卖。其
他毛病，像今天坏玻璃升降器，明天坏alternator，后天coolant漏光了，不一而足。
那车还挑战主流审美观。圆头圆脑的外形，和内部过时的内饰，一辆21世纪的车好似70
年代穿越过来。我坐了他车终于明白为何美国车走到了08年的田地。
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】
: taurus 的 3.0L 发动机还是挺可靠的
: 用途很广
: 偶的 freestyle 就是
: 老款发动机可靠又便宜
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f*****e
发帖数: 5177 | 36 据说他第一天上班，开着自己的Lexus就去公司了。
被新闻一阵狂贬。福特的PR赶快给换了一辆CV。
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 这决定不错，穆拉力把福特率先带出金融危机，重塑品牌形象。
: 穆拉力到福特，做的第一件事情，就是把工程师派到顾客家里去听抱怨，不准说话，不
: 准争辩，只准把顾客的要求，顾客的抱怨都记下来，回来解决问题。现在微软缺的就是
: 这个风气，一个烂到家的Windows 8和WP8，都有一帮软工在这个中文论坛上洗地，顾客
: 不会用，就是顾客智商低。等穆领导上任，先把这些无耻软工都Fire掉。
|
c*******9
发帖数: 9032 | 37 MS习惯了做大型软件，做mobile app没什么优势。
【在 o*******6 的大作中提到】
: PC卖不动，MS可以去做mobile app来赚钱。不管在什么硬件上都可以卖软件啊。
: 所以我说One Microsoft政策不变，微软必死。定位就错了。微软就是个软件公司。什
: 么平台流行，就在什么平台上做软件，这才是生财之道。
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 38 以后大型软件也要在平板和手机上用。只是要对小屏幕进行UI的优化。
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: MS习惯了做大型软件，做mobile app没什么优势。
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q*c
发帖数: 9453 | 39 一般人要的是容易用，简单共享共同编辑
【在 a******1 的大作中提到】
: google doc界面太丑了吧
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 40 那也是office web app更好用啊
【在 q*c 的大作中提到】
: 一般人要的是容易用，简单共享共同编辑
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