c*****r 发帖数: 502 | 1 http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro
What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and
expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's
finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the
company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer.
After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that
very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on
inventory that remains rotting in warehouses.
没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。
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u****d 发帖数: 23938 | 3 这篇简直是媒体的耻辱,连基本的事实都能歪曲,公然撒谎,误导读者,私下不知道拿
了果宣部多少经费。
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro : What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and : expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's : finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the : company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer. : After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that : very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on : inventory that remains rotting in warehouses. : 没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。 : balanced reporting 都到哪里去了。
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g*****g 发帖数: 34805 | 4 I think it has a fair point. The issue is in the software, why would the
hardware improvement make any difference?
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro : What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and : expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's : finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the : company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer. : After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that : very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on : inventory that remains rotting in warehouses. : 没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。 : balanced reporting 都到哪里去了。
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i***r 发帖数: 1035 | 5 apple iphone5换个彩色壳子上市,被大家嘲笑
MS到干脆,连壳子都不换
让大家等了一年,情何以堪 |
k*h 发帖数: 3668 | 6 RT的确很难成为一个畅销产品。特别是现在新的atom这么强了。
如果windows store能跟随着8.1的普及和大量变形本的上市发展起来,RT还有点前途。
我觉得RT更像是MS对Intel施加的压力,就像atom支持Android一样。大家都不想在一棵
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g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 7 作为software来说,MS没有你想象中的那么弱.
Android不是一个东西.
绑在不同公司身上的Android单独列出来,未必有几家超过MS的.
I think it has a fair point. The issue is in the software, why would the
hardware improvement make any difference?
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【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】 : I think it has a fair point. The issue is in the software, why would the : hardware improvement make any difference? : : . : on
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j*****z 发帖数: 5306 | 8 最近给thinkpad上装了Windows 8.1, metro 界面下面的app还是一样弱,各种无反应,
各种卡死,都是软软自己的app,还不是第三方的。经常开app要开两遍,因为第一遍的
时候卡死了。有时候所有metroapp显示无网络连接,去desktop上就有连接。。。
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】 : 作为software来说,MS没有你想象中的那么弱. : Android不是一个东西. : 绑在不同公司身上的Android单独列出来,未必有几家超过MS的. : : I think it has a fair point. The issue is in the software, why would the : hardware improvement make any difference? : . : on
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m****u 发帖数: 3915 | 9 人说的很对啊,还以为ms能从surface 1的失败中吸收点教训,没想到还一样
ms还是没活明白,他的对手不是apple,是android,看看安卓板子什么价钱和尺寸 |
g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 10 Android开始不也那样.
MS靠Android专利费补贴都够自己发展了.
倒是GooG,我真不知道家家户户都给Android拔干杀净然后塞自己的吸费code,
建自己的app市场的今天,它还有多大动力继续.
最近给thinkpad上装了Windows 8.1, metro 界面下面的app还是一样弱,各种无反应,
各种卡死,都是软软自己的app,还不是第三方的。经常开app要开两遍,因为第一遍的
时候卡死了。有时候所有metroapp显示无网络连接,去desktop上就有连接。。。
【在 j*****z 的大作中提到】 : 最近给thinkpad上装了Windows 8.1, metro 界面下面的app还是一样弱,各种无反应, : 各种卡死,都是软软自己的app,还不是第三方的。经常开app要开两遍,因为第一遍的 : 时候卡死了。有时候所有metroapp显示无网络连接,去desktop上就有连接。。。
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a****a 发帖数: 3905 | 11 Win8.1没release to public的原因之一就是相应的app需要update。
自己愿意做小白鼠就不要抱怨。
【在 j*****z 的大作中提到】 : 最近给thinkpad上装了Windows 8.1, metro 界面下面的app还是一样弱,各种无反应, : 各种卡死,都是软软自己的app,还不是第三方的。经常开app要开两遍,因为第一遍的 : 时候卡死了。有时候所有metroapp显示无网络连接,去desktop上就有连接。。。
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a****a 发帖数: 3905 | 12 那得看微软对surface定位是什么。pro根本不是在和ipad和android竞争。surface 2更
像是给business而不是consumer用的。
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : 人说的很对啊,还以为ms能从surface 1的失败中吸收点教训,没想到还一样 : ms还是没活明白,他的对手不是apple,是android,看看安卓板子什么价钱和尺寸
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s*****m 发帖数: 13092 | 13 我也这感觉。。。虽然不太明白MS要干嘛,他们的vision说是要最大synergy,但是
consumer这块还是有点没看上的样子。
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】 : 那得看微软对surface定位是什么。pro根本不是在和ipad和android竞争。surface 2更 : 像是给business而不是consumer用的。
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j*****z 发帖数: 5306 | 14 装的是MSDNAA正式release版,这都算小白鼠那所有用户都是白鼠了。
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】 : Win8.1没release to public的原因之一就是相应的app需要update。 : 自己愿意做小白鼠就不要抱怨。
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t********e 发帖数: 1169 | 15 软工们永远处在denial状态,不知道外面世界怎么样 |
g****t 发帖数: 31659 | 16 MS多少年营收都是企业用户占主流.
他并不是消费电子的.在消费市场,它一边走OEM PC,一边放纵盗版,让其他人无路可走.
我也这感觉。。。虽然不太明白MS要干嘛,他们的vision说是要最大synergy,但是
consumer这块还是有点没看上的样子。
【在 s*****m 的大作中提到】 : 我也这感觉。。。虽然不太明白MS要干嘛,他们的vision说是要最大synergy,但是 : consumer这块还是有点没看上的样子。
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 17 就是的,软宣部也要增加预算了
【在 u****d 的大作中提到】 : 这篇简直是媒体的耻辱,连基本的事实都能歪曲,公然撒谎,误导读者,私下不知道拿 : 了果宣部多少经费。 : : . : on
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s*****m 发帖数: 13092 | 18 企业收入占55%,也不是一边倒啊
【在 g****t 的大作中提到】 : MS多少年营收都是企业用户占主流. : 他并不是消费电子的.在消费市场,它一边走OEM PC,一边放纵盗版,让其他人无路可走. : : 我也这感觉。。。虽然不太明白MS要干嘛,他们的vision说是要最大synergy,但是 : consumer这块还是有点没看上的样子。
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m****u 发帖数: 3915 | 19 想出平板给business用的都是脑残
business用电脑是作为生产工具的,生产工具对输入速度和精度要求高,平板没戏,
business还是pc和laptop的天下
平板是消费工具,用来看电影看书上网玩游戏的
先问问MS有几个人用surface写code开会的?
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】 : 那得看微软对surface定位是什么。pro根本不是在和ipad和android竞争。surface 2更 : 像是给business而不是consumer用的。
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r**********y 发帖数: 2774 | 20 说的很对, 早死早超生啊。
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro : What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and : expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's : finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the : company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer. : After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that : very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on : inventory that remains rotting in warehouses. : 没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。 : balanced reporting 都到哪里去了。
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r**********y 发帖数: 2774 | 21 说的很对, 早死早超生啊。
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro : What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and : expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's : finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the : company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer. : After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that : very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on : inventory that remains rotting in warehouses. : 没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。 : balanced reporting 都到哪里去了。
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o*******6 发帖数: 6113 | 22 说的有道理。看不出来Surface 2靠什么去和ipad竞争。不降价销量必然悲剧。 |
h******b 发帖数: 6055 | 23 微软应该先学谷歌nexus系列。
反正没oem出rt板子,赔本打开市场先。 |
g*********e 发帖数: 14401 | 24 techcrunch还是狗狗死忠呢 狗放个屁都要报道一通
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】 : http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/23/microsoft-surface-2-same-pro : What's the definition of insanity? Trying the same thing several times and : expecting a different outcome. While we wouldn't suggest that Microsoft's : finest minds are in need of urgent medical care, it does seem as if the : company's executives have failed to heed the lessons doled out this summer. : After all, it was only a few months ago that Microsoft had to admit that : very few Surface RT tablets had been sold, and booked a $900 million loss on : inventory that remains rotting in warehouses. : 没见过一个媒体说话这么偏的,难道是学人家的 op-ed。这也太过了一点儿吧。 : balanced reporting 都到哪里去了。
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o*******6 发帖数: 6113 | 25 N7和N10加起来卖出去多少台?和ipad相比怎么样?
【在 h******b 的大作中提到】 : 微软应该先学谷歌nexus系列。 : 反正没oem出rt板子,赔本打开市场先。
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