p**f
发帖数: 3549 | 1 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-privacy-censorship
.html
关于果子出卖数据给憋的新闻多了起来。。
知道果子的apple id国内数据库在贵阳
是说只要用国内网连apple id （imessage/facetime），都直接走贵阳服务器？
牛逼的是这个啊：
"
Chinese government workers physically control and operate the data center.
Apple agreed to store the digital keys that unlock its Chinese customers’
information in those data centers. And Apple abandoned the encryption
technology it uses in other data centers after China wouldn’t allow it.
Independent security experts and Apple engineers said Apple’s concessions
would make it nearly impossible for the company to stop Chinese authorities
from gaining access to the emails, photos, contacts, calendars and location
data of Apple’s Chinese customers.
"
意思是：憋可以随便看apple cloud上的任何东西？
还有怎么定义Chinese customers？如果是国外拿回去用的iPhone/iPad，用的是国外邮
箱注册的apple id，只不过通过移动网络连上果子cloud服务，也算Chinese customers？ |
f*******t
发帖数: 7549 | 2 早在果子只能用云上贵州的那天，你就应该知道会是这样的结果 |
p**f
发帖数: 3549 | 3 如果是美帝背回去的ipad
apple id也是在这边注册的（gmail）
没有绑定国内手机号，imessage和facetime都是通过邮箱联系
只使用国内的wifi网络
怎么看apple id是哪个区？
就这样，imessage/facetime也走云上贵州？
【在 f*******t 的大作中提到】
: 早在果子只能用云上贵州的那天，你就应该知道会是这样的结果
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f*******t
发帖数: 7549 | 4 app store里可以看到是哪个区。其实就算不走云上贵州，土共想黑进你的手机也不是
难事，毕竟你人都在天朝了。土共手里的0day入侵工具应该有好几套，最新的报道是用
在新疆了。但估计你也不是啥高价值目标，犯不着关心这些吧。你办个证什么的全部要
录入人脸，加上其它各种信息收集渠道，光不让看你跟别人聊天有什么用。 |
p**f
发帖数: 3549 | 5 土共想黑进我的手机，我倒不怕
尽管黑，嘿嘿
查了下quora，好像是说只要不做backup，土共就拿不到你的encryption key
理论上，如果土共拿到你的encryption key，是可以对你的imessage/facetime进行解
密的
不过这个还是比微信这种完全不加密的要安全百倍把
Q: Is iMessage encrypted in China?
A: Yes, Apple’s Messages service is encrypted in China. (iMessages was
renames to Messages, years ago.)
The iCloud service in China is accessible by the Chinese government due
to a recently enacted Chinese law that all the data for all residents be
accessible by the government
That means that if a Chinese user activates the backup service, then a
copy of his device will be in iCloud which includes his encryption keys.
It is not proven in any way that this backup can actually be read by the
Chinese government and there is no evidence that the encryption keys to the
Messages service could be accessed by the Chinese government to read the
actual texts in Messages
Since there is doubt, Chinese users should not use the backup service
they should use a backup service in the US or backup their systems
themselves to their own encrypted hardware, with inaccessible keys.
【在 f*******t 的大作中提到】
: app store里可以看到是哪个区。其实就算不走云上贵州，土共想黑进你的手机也不是
: 难事，毕竟你人都在天朝了。土共手里的0day入侵工具应该有好几套，最新的报道是用
: 在新疆了。但估计你也不是啥高价值目标，犯不着关心这些吧。你办个证什么的全部要
: 录入人脸，加上其它各种信息收集渠道，光不让看你跟别人聊天有什么用。
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C*********g
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t******0
发帖数: 3757 | 7
你是不是有问题？还是干过啥坏事
【在 C*********g 的大作中提到】
: 擦，擦除备份来的及嘛
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g*c
发帖数: 4510 | 8 没有把一尊供在头顶吧，还能是啥
【在 t******0 的大作中提到】
:
: 你是不是有问题？还是干过啥坏事
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