B******1
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l*****s
发帖数: 623 | |
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 3 是呀。
我觉得即使人不死，干这种缺德事的人都应该判他（她）３０天。所以有一种说法是
DA 去年在做秀，为了连任。媒体的关注赚到了，就敷衍了事。
【在 l*****s 的大作中提到】
: 太轻了
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r*f
发帖数: 39119 | |
n********h
发帖数: 102 | 5 毕竟还是孩子。跳桥的犹太学生也是太脆弱了一点。判个一年监狱差不多。 |
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 6 Don't know. Probably walk free with some community service requirement.
【在 r*f 的大作中提到】
: how about the girl
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 7 I am not a lawyer. But maybe the victim's family can sue Twitter, the
online media used by the defendent to "publish" and share the online video
of the victim's private act. |
B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 8 Molly Wei, a friend of Mr. Ravi who joined him in spying on Mr. Clementi,
was originally charged in the case. Her charges were dropped in exchange for
testifying for the prosecution, performing 300 hours of community service
and attending counseling for cyberbullying.
During the trial, Ms. Wei said that three days before Mr. Clementi leapt to
his death, she twice watched him on her laptop computer kissing another man
inside the dorm room that he shared with Mr. Ravi.
Ms. Wei said Mr. Ravi was concerned that his iPad might be stolen from the
room because Mr. Clementi had asked him to leave for a few hours while he
was alone with a man, whom Ms. Wei recalled Mr. Ravi describing as “an
older, shabbier-looking guy.” From Ms. Wei’s room across the hall, they
turned on Mr. Ravi’s webcam and for a few seconds saw Mr. Clementi kissing
the other man before they turned off the camera.
Ms. Wei, who had known Mr. Ravi since middle school, testified that she had
never before seen two men kissing. She said that despite being “freaked out
” over viewing “something we shouldn’t have seen,” she later turned Mr.
Ravi’s webcam back on to show the scene to her roommate and three female
friends.
Ms. Wei testified that Mr. Ravi had told her that he suspected his roommate
was gay. |
i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 9 我daughter (打不出nu)是同年进大学的。事发时应该是刚进校园几个星期吧。当时的
反应是马上把相关的link都转给她，又打电话机会教育，要她谈感想。她这种对错还是
知道的，主要是怕碰到Molly Wei的情况。碰到朋友做不对的事，一定要制止，制止不
了就马上离开，决不能跟着掺和。
for
to
man
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Molly Wei, a friend of Mr. Ravi who joined him in spying on Mr. Clementi,
: was originally charged in the case. Her charges were dropped in exchange for
: testifying for the prosecution, performing 300 hours of community service
: and attending counseling for cyberbullying.
: During the trial, Ms. Wei said that three days before Mr. Clementi leapt to
: his death, she twice watched him on her laptop computer kissing another man
: inside the dorm room that he shared with Mr. Ravi.
: Ms. Wei said Mr. Ravi was concerned that his iPad might be stolen from the
: room because Mr. Clementi had asked him to leave for a few hours while he
: was alone with a man, whom Ms. Wei recalled Mr. Ravi describing as “an
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n****y
发帖数: 6260 | 10 nv
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: 我daughter (打不出nu)是同年进大学的。事发时应该是刚进校园几个星期吧。当时的
: 反应是马上把相关的link都转给她，又打电话机会教育，要她谈感想。她这种对错还是
: 知道的，主要是怕碰到Molly Wei的情况。碰到朋友做不对的事，一定要制止，制止不
: 了就马上离开，决不能跟着掺和。
:
: for
: to
: man
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 11 nv 是什么意思呀？
【在 n****y 的大作中提到】
: nv
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n****y
发帖数: 6260 | 12 女, 敲nv。
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: nv 是什么意思呀？
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 13 太谢谢了。为这个”女“，郁闷很久了。
【在 n****y 的大作中提到】
: 女, 敲nv。
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w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 14 我在知道nv之前，都是打妇女，（一般敲fn会出来），然后把“妇”字delete掉。
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: 太谢谢了。为这个”女“，郁闷很久了。
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w********e
发帖数: 4186 | 15 我在知道nv之前，都是打妇女，（一般敲fn会出来），然后把“妇”字delete掉。
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: 太谢谢了。为这个”女“，郁闷很久了。
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a*w
发帖数: 4495 | 16 侵犯人隐私当然不对，但是那学生自杀不完全是因为隐私。
如果他不是gay，只是男女朋友在xxoo被人录像转播，他会自杀么？
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: 我daughter (打不出nu)是同年进大学的。事发时应该是刚进校园几个星期吧。当时的
: 反应是马上把相关的link都转给她，又打电话机会教育，要她谈感想。她这种对错还是
: 知道的，主要是怕碰到Molly Wei的情况。碰到朋友做不对的事，一定要制止，制止不
: 了就马上离开，决不能跟着掺和。
:
: for
: to
: man
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s*******t
发帖数: 7746 | 17 The Indian guy didn't publish the video, but he did twit about his gay
roommate. There is an interview of the Indian guy on 20/20, abc.com. To some
extent, I feel sorry for him.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I am not a lawyer. But maybe the victim's family can sue Twitter, the
: online media used by the defendent to "publish" and share the online video
: of the victim's private act.
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 18 I do not dare "打妇女".
【在 w********e 的大作中提到】
: 我在知道nv之前，都是打妇女，（一般敲fn会出来），然后把“妇”字delete掉。
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i******e
发帖数: 1720 | 19 那个Molly 整个不知轻重。小印跟她是朋友就到她房间用她的laptop偷窥，她也就跟着
掺和进去了。本来也是各好孩子，人生从此不一样了。唉。
some
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: The Indian guy didn't publish the video, but he did twit about his gay
: roommate. There is an interview of the Indian guy on 20/20, abc.com. To some
: extent, I feel sorry for him.
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 20 Ravi Posted Twitter Feeds and Texts
An investigator testified that as Mr. Ravi posted Twitter feeds about using
a webcam to see Mr. Clementi in a sexual encounter with another man, one of
those reading intently was Mr. Clementi. In the two days before he jumped to
his death from the George Washington Bridge, Mr. Clementi checked Mr. Ravi
’s Twitter account 38 times, said the investigator, Detective Gary
Charydczak of the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office.
Detective Charydczak said that in the early hours of Sept. 21, Mr. Clementi
saved a screenshot of a Twitter post that Mr. Ravi had sent two days earlier
; it read: “Roommate asked for the room until midnight. I went into molly’
s room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay.”
That night, Mr. Clementi saved a screen shot of another Twitter post from Mr
. Ravi, which read: “I dare you to chat me between the hours of 9:30 and
midnight. Yes, it’s happening again.”
Detective Charydczak testified that Mr. Ravi’s hard drive showed that he
later edited that post to read, “Don’t you dare chat me.” After Mr.
Clementi died, Mr. Ravi added a Twitter post in response to the one he had
sent on Sept. 19. The new post read: “Everyone ignore that last tweet.
Stupid drafts.”
Michelle Huang, who had known Mr. Ravi in high school and was also a student
at Rutgers, testified that he had sent her a text message about “keep the
gays away” and urged her to watch a feed from a webcam that he had trained
on the bed where he expected Mr. Clementi to have a tryst with another man.
Earlier in the trial, a Rutgers employee testified that Mr. Clementi had
submitted a request online to be transferred to a single room. On the form,
which was sent electronically around 4 a.m. on Sept. 21, 2010, Mr. Clementi
wrote that he wanted to move because “roommate used webcam to spy on me.”
However, Judge Glenn Berman did not allow that statement into evidence,
ruling that it was hearsay.
some
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: The Indian guy didn't publish the video, but he did twit about his gay
: roommate. There is an interview of the Indian guy on 20/20, abc.com. To some
: extent, I feel sorry for him.
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s***l
发帖数: 2236 | 21 所以小孩子的大是大非观念家长一定要教育好，这个比推什么学乐器学体育要更重要，
也更容易被忽视。
【在 i******e 的大作中提到】
: 那个Molly 整个不知轻重。小印跟她是朋友就到她房间用她的laptop偷窥，她也就跟着
: 掺和进去了。本来也是各好孩子，人生从此不一样了。唉。
:
: some
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n********h
发帖数: 102 | 22 还有接受自己的孩子，无论他/她的性取向，宗教取向，和谁结婚等等。
跳桥的这个 just came out of his closet and his parents especially the mother
was shocked and wasn't talking to his son for period of time.
【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 所以小孩子的大是大非观念家长一定要教育好，这个比推什么学乐器学体育要更重要，
: 也更容易被忽视。
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n********h
发帖数: 102 | 23 最后跳了桥还不能严惩the bully。
30天真的是太轻了。
mother
【在 n********h 的大作中提到】
: 还有接受自己的孩子，无论他/她的性取向，宗教取向，和谁结婚等等。
: 跳桥的这个 just came out of his closet and his parents especially the mother
: was shocked and wasn't talking to his son for period of time.
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m*****8
发帖数: 4059 | 24 哎，太可惜了...
刚在npr里听到印度母亲痛苦的请求不要送孩子进监狱
另一边则觉得30天太少，如儿戏
真是悲剧...
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: 只判了３０天。
: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/former-rutgers-student-gets
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s****i
发帖数: 2993 | 25 DA is appealing the ruling.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: 是呀。
: 我觉得即使人不死，干这种缺德事的人都应该判他（她）３０天。所以有一种说法是
: DA 去年在做秀，为了连任。媒体的关注赚到了，就敷衍了事。
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s*****o
发帖数: 2317 | 26 我也觉得30天太少
三年以上七年以下吧……
【在 m*****8 的大作中提到】
: 哎，太可惜了...
: 刚在npr里听到印度母亲痛苦的请求不要送孩子进监狱
: 另一边则觉得30天太少，如儿戏
: 真是悲剧...
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 27 The Indian student's excuse that he worried about losing his iPad, thus
installed the online camera is BS.
All he WANTED was to view the ACT. If he worried about his iPad, why not
POINT the camera to the iPAD? Why did he point it to the bed of his
roommate? If he worried about his iPad, why did he show the realtime camera
view to other friends or classmates, who might become interested in his iPad?
Liar! A pathetic liar who showed no remorse to his criminal act! |
h*****7
发帖数: 2120 | |
h*********e
发帖数: 6997 | 29 要我说1-2年比较合适。
美国大兵在阿富汗射杀了那么多人，处理了吗？这么多年美国人在别的国家杀人强奸，
有什么严重后果吗？就算是死刑还不是要等20年后执行，执行的时候还会有人抗议还有
人建议大赦。
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我也觉得30天太少
: 三年以上七年以下吧……
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g*******l
发帖数: 1470 | 30 这个事情告诉我们，推啥都是浮云，关键是让孩子树立正确的人生观：
（1）真实世界是残酷的，挫折无处不在；
（2）好死不如赖活，人没了说什么都是扯淡。 |
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r****z
发帖数: 12020 | 31 Nice catch.
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: I do not dare "打妇女".
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r****z
发帖数: 12020 | 32 为什么大家说判得太轻？是觉得法官没按法律办，还是法律不对？
我不太清楚美国法律怎么规定的，是不是也有“后果特别严重”就要重判的规定？
这人做的事是很恶劣，可法律是法律，感情是感情，不能因为大家觉得他缺德就随便加
刑吧。那还要法庭做什么，大家投票不就完了？
如果法官没有依法行事还有重判的可能吗？ |
L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 33 he told people he would publish, and tried to publish the video twice, but
failed.
some
【在 s*******t 的大作中提到】
: The Indian guy didn't publish the video, but he did twit about his gay
: roommate. There is an interview of the Indian guy on 20/20, abc.com. To some
: extent, I feel sorry for him.
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h*********e
发帖数: 6997 | 34 我一方面觉得稍轻，一方面暗自高兴没判太重，如果判个十年八年，只能说明外国人在
美国受歧视很重，尤其老印和老中的待遇类似。现在这个判法，还有之前那个吻瘫机场
中国学生只判社区服务，说明还是依法办事的，而不是带有种族歧视地瞎判。
BTW我觉得机场那个中国学生其实客观上发现了机场安检的大漏洞，应该发勋章办特殊
贡献绿卡才对，嘿嘿。
【在 r****z 的大作中提到】
: 为什么大家说判得太轻？是觉得法官没按法律办，还是法律不对？
: 我不太清楚美国法律怎么规定的，是不是也有“后果特别严重”就要重判的规定？
: 这人做的事是很恶劣，可法律是法律，感情是感情，不能因为大家觉得他缺德就随便加
: 刑吧。那还要法庭做什么，大家投票不就完了？
: 如果法官没有依法行事还有重判的可能吗？
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L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 35 多调查事实在发言。
十五项罪法律规定的惩罚范围是五到十年。
这法官贼眉鼠目，拥有权力只判了三十天。
【在 r****z 的大作中提到】
: 为什么大家说判得太轻？是觉得法官没按法律办，还是法律不对？
: 我不太清楚美国法律怎么规定的，是不是也有“后果特别严重”就要重判的规定？
: 这人做的事是很恶劣，可法律是法律，感情是感情，不能因为大家觉得他缺德就随便加
: 刑吧。那还要法庭做什么，大家投票不就完了？
: 如果法官没有依法行事还有重判的可能吗？
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L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 36 和是非观念关系不大。 要就孩子马上和干坏事的朋友划清界限也不现实。
关键是要孩子交友慎重，尤其别和烙印混在一块。 这民族偷鸡摸狗不当一回事。
Molly Wei倒霉，不过西温莎出来的，哪个不和印度小孩混在一块？
【在 s***l 的大作中提到】
: 所以小孩子的大是大非观念家长一定要教育好，这个比推什么学乐器学体育要更重要，
: 也更容易被忽视。
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L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 37 如果是男女朋友，会被转播吗？
所以是hate crime.
犹太人太软弱了。 这孩子和他的父母都是。
法官也拣软柿子捏。
要我， 一听判三十天就该离开法庭表示抗议。
【在 a*w 的大作中提到】
: 侵犯人隐私当然不对，但是那学生自杀不完全是因为隐私。
: 如果他不是gay，只是男女朋友在xxoo被人录像转播，他会自杀么？
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r****z
发帖数: 12020 | 38 这不就是在问询大家事实吗？
你的意思是法官胡判，那是不是控方还有机会要求重判？
另外，贼眉鼠目和判案有关系吗？
【在 L******w 的大作中提到】
: 多调查事实在发言。
: 十五项罪法律规定的惩罚范围是五到十年。
: 这法官贼眉鼠目，拥有权力只判了三十天。
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L******w
发帖数: 5407 | 39 对， 控方已经提出上诉了。
这个法官看去就是个油滑之徒。
【在 r****z 的大作中提到】
: 这不就是在问询大家事实吗？
: 你的意思是法官胡判，那是不是控方还有机会要求重判？
: 另外，贼眉鼠目和判案有关系吗？
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T*********k
发帖数: 1767 | 40 agree
camera
iPad?
【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: The Indian student's excuse that he worried about losing his iPad, thus
: installed the online camera is BS.
: All he WANTED was to view the ACT. If he worried about his iPad, why not
: POINT the camera to the iPAD? Why did he point it to the bed of his
: roommate? If he worried about his iPad, why did he show the realtime camera
: view to other friends or classmates, who might become interested in his iPad?
: Liar! A pathetic liar who showed no remorse to his criminal act!
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