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S****i
发帖数: 232
1
说白了就是钱。
我感觉国人最具创意的就是高富帅&白富美
既考虑到了外表又考虑到了才华。
B******1
发帖数: 9094
2
Did Vincent van Gogh have talents?
If he did, the second question is: did van Goah have talents before or after
his death?
Was he tall, rich, or handsome?
IMHO, the worst contribution of the popular culture in China is to value
everything in terms of $$!
S****i
发帖数: 232
3
反高有才华还是因为他的画卖的贵, 对吧
你没理解我的意思, 这个钱是为社会创造的钱, 而不是单指自己拿到手里的钱。 我
把钱用财富代替你就同意了吧

after

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Did Vincent van Gogh have talents?
: If he did, the second question is: did van Goah have talents before or after
: his death?
: Was he tall, rich, or handsome?
: IMHO, the worst contribution of the popular culture in China is to value
: everything in terms of $$!

B******1
发帖数: 9094
4
Then your conclusion is that:
van Gogh had no talents when he was alive (none of his paintings was sold at
high $$), but had a lot of talents after his death (all of his paintings
were sold at high $$). Isn't this statement a paradox? It seems to suggest
that death, not talents, can creat wealth!

【在 S****i 的大作中提到】
: 反高有才华还是因为他的画卖的贵, 对吧
: 你没理解我的意思, 这个钱是为社会创造的钱, 而不是单指自己拿到手里的钱。 我
: 把钱用财富代替你就同意了吧
:
: after

S****i
发帖数: 232
5
被人遗忘的才华是才华,但不是及时的才华,说白了就是不适合社会。
当你需要钱的时候你没钱, 当你不需要钱的时候钱来了。 你对钱只会有恨, 没有爱

这就是人的感情。

at

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Then your conclusion is that:
: van Gogh had no talents when he was alive (none of his paintings was sold at
: high $$), but had a lot of talents after his death (all of his paintings
: were sold at high $$). Isn't this statement a paradox? It seems to suggest
: that death, not talents, can creat wealth!

B******1
发帖数: 9094
6
What makes van Gogh one of the greatest artists is not the monetary wealth
he left for others to enjoy after his death, but his bold brush strokes on
the canvas, his choice of content, his use of colors, unique impressionistic
style, all of which were a first when he did it, during his short and
tragic life. The fact that he died poor in such a miserable state contrasted
with the intellectual feast he left for the human race to enjoy.
His greatness lied in his heart as a painter who appreciated life and beauty
and who wanted to share his own view of the world with others. No artist
has ever displayed the passion that he was able to do on canvas.
Van Gogh once said:
My only anxiety is what I can do... could I not be of use and good for
something?...And in a picture I wish to say something that would console as
music does.
He also said:
We take beautiful walks together. It is very beautiful here, if one only has
an open and simple eye without any beams in it. But if one has that, it is
beautiful everywhere.
S****i
发帖数: 232
7
他说的话不恰恰反映了他不适应当时的社会吗? 一个神一样的人, 不食人间烟火,
又有谁想去做那样的人?反高的心理不是一两句花能够看清的。 我相信他世俗过, 但
很失败,然后就清高了。 所有清高的人都有这样的心理历程。
爱到及制而不可得, 有两中做法, 一种是恨, 另外一种是遗忘。

impressionistic
contrasted
beauty

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: What makes van Gogh one of the greatest artists is not the monetary wealth
: he left for others to enjoy after his death, but his bold brush strokes on
: the canvas, his choice of content, his use of colors, unique impressionistic
: style, all of which were a first when he did it, during his short and
: tragic life. The fact that he died poor in such a miserable state contrasted
: with the intellectual feast he left for the human race to enjoy.
: His greatness lied in his heart as a painter who appreciated life and beauty
: and who wanted to share his own view of the world with others. No artist
: has ever displayed the passion that he was able to do on canvas.
: Van Gogh once said:

s*****j
发帖数: 6435
8
那位是个严重的小资产阶级情调的主. 你是朴素的无产阶级世界观.
鸡同鸭讲, 省省吧.

【在 S****i 的大作中提到】
: 他说的话不恰恰反映了他不适应当时的社会吗? 一个神一样的人, 不食人间烟火,
: 又有谁想去做那样的人?反高的心理不是一两句花能够看清的。 我相信他世俗过, 但
: 很失败,然后就清高了。 所有清高的人都有这样的心理历程。
: 爱到及制而不可得, 有两中做法, 一种是恨, 另外一种是遗忘。
:
: impressionistic
: contrasted
: beauty

S****i
发帖数: 232
9
他是理想主义, 我是现实主义。我所有的做法和想法都是从现实出发。

【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】
: 那位是个严重的小资产阶级情调的主. 你是朴素的无产阶级世界观.
: 鸡同鸭讲, 省省吧.

B******1
发帖数: 9094
10
Unfortunately, chasing "talents-turned-into-wealth" according to a "
realistic" standard would likely kills the wealth generated by genii such as
van Gogh because the genius would not get anything in return for his or her
contribution in their life time. Further, such a standard would tend to
generate commonplace talents, not those extraordinary talents ahead of the
time or out of the box.
S****i
发帖数: 232
11
人类进步的动力就是对金钱的追求, 说起来很无耻, 可事实就是这样
反高卖过画, 可没人买, 他穷了, 然后就清高了。 我不崇拜这种人。

as
her

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: Unfortunately, chasing "talents-turned-into-wealth" according to a "
: realistic" standard would likely kills the wealth generated by genii such as
: van Gogh because the genius would not get anything in return for his or her
: contribution in their life time. Further, such a standard would tend to
: generate commonplace talents, not those extraordinary talents ahead of the
: time or out of the box.

B******1
发帖数: 9094
12
人类进步的动力就是对金钱的追求?? I beg to differ. If money were the thrust
for progress, Bernard Madoff would be our GOD! But I could hardly imagine
how Madoff contributed to the advancement of the mankind. If anything, he is
a disgraceful cheater who generated nothing valuable and stole/destroyed
other's wealth.
Ironically, by worshiping instant cash and insulting long-lasting but not-
that-instant wealth, the realistic world would lose a sizable portion of its
wealth since the ROI of supporting a genus like van Gogh (from the societal
point of view) is extremely profitable!

【在 S****i 的大作中提到】
: 人类进步的动力就是对金钱的追求, 说起来很无耻, 可事实就是这样
: 反高卖过画, 可没人买, 他穷了, 然后就清高了。 我不崇拜这种人。
:
: as
: her

S****i
发帖数: 232
13
你为什么不用八非特当例子? 我很奇怪。 各个行业都有人渣.
有能赚钱的idea, 就要立即投入市场。

thrust
is
its
societal

【在 B******1 的大作中提到】
: 人类进步的动力就是对金钱的追求?? I beg to differ. If money were the thrust
: for progress, Bernard Madoff would be our GOD! But I could hardly imagine
: how Madoff contributed to the advancement of the mankind. If anything, he is
: a disgraceful cheater who generated nothing valuable and stole/destroyed
: other's wealth.
: Ironically, by worshiping instant cash and insulting long-lasting but not-
: that-instant wealth, the realistic world would lose a sizable portion of its
: wealth since the ROI of supporting a genus like van Gogh (from the societal
: point of view) is extremely profitable!

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