u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 SanFrancisco 讨论区 】
发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 11:36:10 2014, 美东)
一个是今年毕业生
一个是junior，今天凌晨出的事
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发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 12:06:12 2014, 美东)
November 4, 2014
Dear Parents/Guardians,
Shortly after 2:00 a.m., I received a call from the Palo Alto Police
Department that a junior from Gunn High School had just lost their life to
suicide. We are all deeply saddened by this tragedy, and our heartfelt
sympathy go to his family and friends as they grieve today and through the
coming days and months.
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发信人: nihuai (Neff won!), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 12:52:11 2014, 美东)
gunn high 2009-2010年自杀了4个学生，另外有至少一个试图自杀未遂，被从铁轨上拉
开。 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 2 发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 15:30:49 2014, 美东)
中国人 ， 非常popular ，很多人都认识这个小孩，凌晨1点在Caltrain卧轨自杀，就
是和前几个差不多一样的地点，在California station附近
他的老师带头在教室里哇哇哭
【 在 chichi (chichi) 的大作中提到: 】 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 3 真 TMD 惨。
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发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 16:06:01 2014, 美东)
家长们情绪激动，怒斥gunn的系统有严重缺陷，一些家长已经从班上直接赶往学校，一
些已经把孩子领回家了，有些老师认识这个孩子情绪受到打击而取消上课，有些课正常
继续
gunn家长们正在商议今晚在palo alto集会和集体抗议跟校长对话，来阻止更多这类悲
剧，现在校方没公布任何消息，一字都没有.
全部的信息来自于pa学区和报纸新闻的报道. 有些爸爸已经直接去学校给孩子请假，做
心理辅导了 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 4 A 16-year-old Palo Alto high school student was struck and killed early
Tuesday by a Caltrain commuter train in an apparent suicide, authorities
said.
Cameron Lee, a student at Gunn High School, died after he was hit by the
last train of the day south of the California Avenue station about 1 a.m.,
said Caltrain spokeswoman Christine Dunn.
A preliminary investigation indicated the death was intentional, but a
conclusive finding will have to be made later by the Santa Clara County
medical examiner, Dunn said.
It was the eighth fatality on a Caltrain right of way this year.
In 2009, three Gunn students killed themselves on the tracks. A fourth
victim was days away from starting her freshman year there. | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 5 The meaning of life, not the meaning of any math/physics/chemical formula,
should be the first subject parents talk about with their kids.
Otherwise, it may be too late when the kids crumbles under the pressure of
the other formulas and fails to appreciate the most important goal in his
life: To Live! | t*******r
发帖数: 22634 | 6 Stephen Hawking's Grand Design：The Meaning of Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGUCFCy3hTE
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: The meaning of life, not the meaning of any math/physics/chemical formula,
: should be the first subject parents talk about with their kids.
: Otherwise, it may be too late when the kids crumbles under the pressure of
: the other formulas and fails to appreciate the most important goal in his
: life: To Live!
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 7 Brittany Cheng, Gunn High Class of 2010
I'm not sure what kind of answer the asker is looking for, because when
someone asks about suicide, there are often deeper underlying questions than
purely objective facts that they're looking for. As a member of the Gunn
High graduating class of 2010, I'd like to provide an answer that gives more
than purely objective fact. Perhaps it's not the answer you're looking for,
but it's an answer that, as a representative of our community, I feel
compelled to provide, if only so anyone who stumbles upon this question will
have a slightly better understanding of Gunn High. Despite it being several
years since our experiences at Gunn, this topic brings up many emotional
scars, so please be sensitive, Quora community.
The first student to die of suicide was a friend of mine and a dearly loved
member of the class of 2010. His death was very public as well as
devastating to our community, and we grieved very publicly. Perhaps because
he was so well regarded, and Palo Alto as a community is so affluent and
high-achieving, the media coverage of the suicide was heavily
sensationalized.
(And here we go into a sidenote where I answer your actual question: As
mentioned by Quora User, heavy media coverage of very public suicides, as
was the case in 2009, can sometimes contribute to other suicides. During my
junior and senior years (2009 - 2010), I remember four students who died of
suicide at Gunn.)
For a community that was grieving, the speculation, accusations that our
school was an "academic pressure cooker," insensitive questions, and prying
eyes from the outside were not conducive to healing. There was a sense that
no one on the outside really understood what we were going through. Even now
, I recognize that very few understand the painful experience, and thus few
approach the topic of suicide with enough sensitivity.
Within Gunn, however, we understood each other and what we were all going
through. Together, we experienced emotions of grief, despair, guilt, anger,
confusion, and even depression. Together, we also began to heal...slowly. We
learned to watch out for one another and to be more sensitive to each
others' needs. As a community, we learned to take care of each other, and
there were even several student initiatives that promoted student well-being
. Here are a few examples:
Sam Zeif and Miles Mathews, Class of 2010, designed hand-stenciled, custom T
-shirts with the words "Talk to Me," to promote communication and support
among students. They sold several hundred T-shirts for $5 each and donated
the proceeds to a grief support organization in Palo Alto. Read more about
the story here: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/ne... and watch a video about it here:
Joyce Liu, Esther Han, and Yoni Alon, Class of 2010, created a student group
called ROCK, which stands for Reach Out, Care, Know. ROCK is a student-run
peer support and advisory group, where students make themselves available,
through email or at a table in a public place at school to listen and share
experiences. During my time as a ROCK, I attended peer-support trainings
taught by Dr. Barbara Varenhorst, a peer help expert, as well as
participated in outreach activities such as a Frosh Quad (Friendly) Invasion
, where upperclassmen intentionally hung out with freshmen during lunchtime.
You can learn more about ROCK here: http://rockatgunn.wordpress.com/
Joyce Liu also created a website, inspired by http://www.givesmehope.com/, called Henry M. Gunn Gives Me Hope (HMGGMH). The website features community-submitted stories of hope from our daily lives. You can check it out here: http://hmggmh.wordpress.com/
It pains me that even now, Gunn is still often connected with suicide (
typically blamed on academic pressure). But the students that I went to high
school with and graduated with give me hope. Yes, as many of you know, I
went to high school with some of the brightest, most driven, and high-
achieving teenagers in the country. What you might not know is that these
same bright, driven, and high-achieving students, who went through so much
together during our last few years of high school, are some of the most
caring, compassionate, and mature students in the country.
Written 23 Jun, 2012. | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 8 A parent comment: Princeton isn't good enough, it has to be Harvard or Yale.
但对一个去世的年轻人来说：任何一个社区大学都比那个地下六尺的大学更阳光！ | G**T
发帖数: 2610 | 9 Wow!!!!
写了这么一大篇，到底说啥了？ －－ 我认真读了一遍， got nothing out of it.
这人应该搞政治去。
than
more
for,
will
several
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: Brittany Cheng, Gunn High Class of 2010
: I'm not sure what kind of answer the asker is looking for, because when
: someone asks about suicide, there are often deeper underlying questions than
: purely objective facts that they're looking for. As a member of the Gunn
: High graduating class of 2010, I'd like to provide an answer that gives more
: than purely objective fact. Perhaps it's not the answer you're looking for,
: but it's an answer that, as a representative of our community, I feel
: compelled to provide, if only so anyone who stumbles upon this question will
: have a slightly better understanding of Gunn High. Despite it being several
: years since our experiences at Gunn, this topic brings up many emotional
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 10 没有。她上了伯克利，现在在 YELP 当 Associate Product Manager。
【在 G**T 的大作中提到】
: Wow!!!!
: 写了这么一大篇，到底说啥了？ －－ 我认真读了一遍， got nothing out of it.
: 这人应该搞政治去。
:
: than
: more
: for,
: will
: several
| | | x**8
发帖数: 4844 | | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 12 2012-2013
Asian Student: 41.6%
U.S. News & World Report rated Gunn High School 4th in the nation in 2012
for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math education.
【在 x**8 的大作中提到】
: Gunn high的小中比例有多高？
| M********s
发帖数: 24729 | | x**8
发帖数: 4844 | 14 跟Ｈａｒｋｅｒ比，Ｇｕｎｎ Ｈｉｇｈ压力更大吗？
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 2012-2013
: Asian Student: 41.6%
: U.S. News & World Report rated Gunn High School 4th in the nation in 2012
: for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math education.
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 15 不清楚。
【在 x**8 的大作中提到】
: 跟Ｈａｒｋｅｒ比，Ｇｕｎｎ Ｈｉｇｈ压力更大吗？
| b********i
发帖数: 10335 | 16 我老人家年轻的时候也有段时间想不开。
可是到了儿也没能把自己撑死。。。
结果，欲火中涅槃，现在成食神了
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
: 标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 15:30:49 2014, 美东)
: 中国人 ， 非常popular ，很多人都认识这个小孩，凌晨1点在Caltrain卧轨自杀，就
: 是和前几个差不多一样的地点，在California station附近
: 他的老师带头在教室里哇哇哭
: 【 在 chichi (chichi) 的大作中提到: 】
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 17 要是想吃撑了死，太艰难了。人的肚皮是弹性的，还会自发呕吐。你那招太难了。
趴在铁轨上，两条腿不会自发跑！
【在 b********i 的大作中提到】
: 我老人家年轻的时候也有段时间想不开。
: 可是到了儿也没能把自己撑死。。。
: 结果，欲火中涅槃，现在成食神了
| b********i
发帖数: 10335 | 18 小朋友这个你就不懂了。
老夫自己活了几十年，当爹也有几年了。
要说把自己玩死的，听说过的不认识的人有，身边的认识的人也有。
其他生老病死就更多了。也劝住过不想活的。
人生就是玩一场。
做父母怎么对待孩子面临的问题，细节不好说，但大事情上，心里根本就应该有这根弦。
多找点正能量看看吧～
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 要是想吃撑了死，太艰难了。人的肚皮是弹性的，还会自发呕吐。你那招太难了。
: 趴在铁轨上，两条腿不会自发跑！
| u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 19 发信人: viefrance (Viefrance), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: gunn high 一个月内自杀了两个学生了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 4 19:24:23 2014, 美东)
校长已经发函，自杀已经定性，明天晚上6：30---8将在gunn 图书馆进行校方和家长对
话会议，会有心理专家和精神健康工作人员到会.
欢迎大家都去参加.
死者是gunn 非常活跃的篮球队队员和国际联盟会员，算是比较出众的华人男孩。同时
也是生长在pa的居民，小学就读于jbes，初中terman，还有弟弟妹妹在他一起的学校继
续读书他的同学很多都在gunn.
葬礼时间还没有定.
希望大家都来参加对话会，了解进一步信息. | s**********1
发帖数: 4651 | 20 RIP, so sad, looking could be really deceiving. | | | b*******r
发帖数: 1073 | 21 以前读STAY这本书里面有个理论，似乎也不必要大张旗鼓地讨论自杀，尤其在青少年中
间。自杀有可能引起一种效应（效仿）。但是大人确实心理有根弦。 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 22 让我们这些父母，大张旗鼓地讨论如何不让孩子自杀。这比如何爬藤有益多了。 | u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 23 发信人: verizonchen (verizonchen), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: Re: 从华人小孩自杀看在美华人生存教育的缺失。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 5 12:00:51 2014, 美东)
中国自杀率
对中国自杀率的现状，目前存在不同的估算。据英国医学杂志《柳叶刀》（The
Lancet）2002年的一篇论文[1]，1995至1999年，中国自杀率约为每年23人/10万，而当
时世界其他地区平均自杀率仅为10/10万，中国自杀率是国际平均数的2.3倍；当时中国
自杀者数目大约是世界总自杀人口的1/3。自杀已经成为中国年轻人中最为常见的死因
；中国妇女的自杀率超过男性达25%。在有确切自杀率统计的世界各国中，中国是唯一
女性自杀率显著超过男性的国家（参见各国自杀率列表）；农村人口中的自杀率为城市
的三倍。 | p******e
发帖数: 677 | | c******i
发帖数: 4091 | 25 发信人: chichazi (吃叉子), 信区: Parenting
标 题: Re: Obama: Let schools use race in admissions
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 5 13:54:39 2014, 美东)
看看犹太人在名校的人数和比例，就知道你这绝后屁精就是一屁俩谎，还你妈假装家长
在这儿天天吃人血馒头，我善了个哉的。
不讨
的也
【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 发信人: verizonchen (verizonchen), 信区: SanFrancisco
: 标 题: Re: 从华人小孩自杀看在美华人生存教育的缺失。
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 5 12:00:51 2014, 美东)
: 中国自杀率
: 对中国自杀率的现状，目前存在不同的估算。据英国医学杂志《柳叶刀》（The
: Lancet）2002年的一篇论文[1]，1995至1999年，中国自杀率约为每年23人/10万，而当
: 时世界其他地区平均自杀率仅为10/10万，中国自杀率是国际平均数的2.3倍；当时中国
: 自杀者数目大约是世界总自杀人口的1/3。自杀已经成为中国年轻人中最为常见的死因
: ；中国妇女的自杀率超过男性达25%。在有确切自杀率统计的世界各国中，中国是唯一
: 女性自杀率显著超过男性的国家（参见各国自杀率列表）；农村人口中的自杀率为城市
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