n***p
发帖数: 7668 | 1 前一阵我收到很多80-20要求捐款的电子邮件，而且电邮里面说他们确实
也已经收到了不少捐款。在我们的华人警官被不公平对待的时候，80-20
为什么没有组织抗议，连发声都没有？ |
v*******e
发帖数: 11604 | |
J*******p
发帖数: 1129 | 3
不幸的现实：不喜欢搞政治，就逃不过被政治搞...
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 老中不喜欢搞政治，80-20快倒了。
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | |
S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 5 没有人正常人喜欢搞政治吧？
现在美国的这些中国人
一是表达能力差
因为小时候收到的表达能力的锻炼跟美国人没法比
再是中国从来没有结党的权利
现在美国的这些中国人没这个意识，也没在这方面的积累
更重要的是抗争能力实在有限
既没有像犹太裔那么有钱
又没有拉丁裔那么广泛的背后支持
就这么抗议，一次一次的用处究竟多大？
失败不要紧，但次次的失败都没长进的话
久了失败的阴影就能把人压倒
我看最好是出钱
首先找出个领导人
然后每个支持者都自愿出钱
这样才能将力量集中起来
真正抗争一次。
【在 v*******e 的大作中提到】
: 老中不喜欢搞政治，80-20快倒了。
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h**r
发帖数: 8078 | 6 在看风向。
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】
: 前一阵我收到很多80-20要求捐款的电子邮件，而且电邮里面说他们确实
: 也已经收到了不少捐款。在我们的华人警官被不公平对待的时候，80-20
: 为什么没有组织抗议，连发声都没有？
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S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 7 如果是看风向就很过分了
根本就不值得大家把钱给他们
他们没这个能力，又没胆量
那还有什么用处？
我看那些African american的组织
总是第一时间做出明确的政治表达
那才像个正八经的政治机构
【在 h**r 的大作中提到】
: 在看风向。
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h**r
发帖数: 8078 | 8 其实，有些时候，不表态不是最糟糕的。
你没看有“大义灭亲”的吗？
【在 S**********b 的大作中提到】
: 如果是看风向就很过分了
: 根本就不值得大家把钱给他们
: 他们没这个能力，又没胆量
: 那还有什么用处？
: 我看那些African american的组织
: 总是第一时间做出明确的政治表达
: 那才像个正八经的政治机构
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S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 9 呵呵，大义灭亲的还在明处
害你的在暗处的，不是更惨
【在 h**r 的大作中提到】
: 其实，有些时候，不表态不是最糟糕的。
: 你没看有“大义灭亲”的吗？
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 10 说得好轻巧，你看看三藩版前一阵闹的，中国人我觉得还是太聪明，自己那十块钱，一
定得花在根红苗正的刀刃上。就这心理，光找领导人这过程就都打成一锅粥了。
【在 S**********b 的大作中提到】
: 没有人正常人喜欢搞政治吧？
: 现在美国的这些中国人
: 一是表达能力差
: 因为小时候收到的表达能力的锻炼跟美国人没法比
: 再是中国从来没有结党的权利
: 现在美国的这些中国人没这个意识，也没在这方面的积累
: 更重要的是抗争能力实在有限
: 既没有像犹太裔那么有钱
: 又没有拉丁裔那么广泛的背后支持
: 就这么抗议，一次一次的用处究竟多大？
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S**********b
发帖数: 3142 | 11 就是没经验没积累
需要锻炼就是了
【在 M******k 的大作中提到】
: 说得好轻巧，你看看三藩版前一阵闹的，中国人我觉得还是太聪明，自己那十块钱，一
: 定得花在根红苗正的刀刃上。就这心理，光找领导人这过程就都打成一锅粥了。
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r*******g
发帖数: 2662 | 12 不表态还敢拿钱？
[在 hair (飘飘) 的大作中提到：]
：其实，有些时候，不表态不是最糟糕的。
：你没看有“大义灭亲”的吗？
：........... |
h**r
发帖数: 8078 | 13 擦汗，干嘛都问我啊。
我又不是80/20的人。
【在 r*******g 的大作中提到】
: 不表态还敢拿钱？
: [在 hair (飘飘) 的大作中提到：]
: ：其实，有些时候，不表态不是最糟糕的。
: ：你没看有“大义灭亲”的吗？
: ：...........
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 14 你是芝加哥的领导啊！
：）
【在 h**r 的大作中提到】
: 擦汗，干嘛都问我啊。
: 我又不是80/20的人。
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n********h
发帖数: 13135 | 15
你可以写EMAIL，要求他们对梁警官的事表态。还可以给本区的参，众议员写信，要求
他们对此事公开表态。
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】
: 前一阵我收到很多80-20要求捐款的电子邮件，而且电邮里面说他们确实
: 也已经收到了不少捐款。在我们的华人警官被不公平对待的时候，80-20
: 为什么没有组织抗议，连发声都没有？
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n***p
发帖数: 7668 | 16 我这还没给他们写信呢，80-20已经表态了，就是说那些去签名petition的都是傻逼。
Have you heard about the arraignment against Officer Peter Liang of the
NYPD? 80-20 has received many emails from Asian Ams pleading for us to
look into this matter.
After a Board meeting, 80-2O Initiative takes the following positions:
1) It shall not let Officer Peter Liang be the victim of political
scapegoating, if
indeed we conclude this is the case, after our thorough fact-finding.
2) It advises Asian Ams. not to join or participate in petitions and
movements
that only expose our community's political ignorance/immaturity which
makes
us even weaker. Take the recent White House petitions as examples.
The
initiators and signers are great people who yearned for justice. 80-20
thanks
them and shares their goal. However, those petitions ignore the legal
environment in the USA. Keep in mind that the President of the U.S. has
no
legal authority over an indictment in Brooklyn. Nor is Pres. Obama
likely to
make a statement on an ongoing legal case. In America, we need to
practice
politics the American way.
Remember the Jimmy Kimmel "kill every Chinese" episode? 80-20 got the
first
and ONLY written apology from ABC soon after the event. Weeks after a
White House petition, which asked Pres. Obama to interfere, had reached
100,000 signers, and long after the matter has been satisfactorily
resolved,
there was a White House statement on this matter. Did anyone remember
what was said? (Please note that this was not a reflection on the
White House,
but a reflection on the silliness of that petition. President Obama is
not the
equivalent of a Chinese Emperor. He has no authority over ABC, a
private
enterprise.)
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
- George Santayana.
However, if there were a petition to 80-20 to help Office Liang and it
quickly
gathers 100,000 signatures, it would be much more effective. Why?
Because 80-20 would be greatly empowered by the apparent yearning for
its leadership, thereby enabling it to do even more.
3) 80-20 will strive to create a win-win situation to ensure justice for
Officer Liang.
This part of 80-20's effort requires tactical maneuver in the future.
Hence,
we'll only summarize the essence. The indictment of Officer Liang
could be
partially politically motivated. Hence 80-20 will act with politics in
mind
as well, while stressing fact finding. Our aim is to create a win-win
situation
for District Attorney Thompson of Brooklyn, the African American
community,
and Officer Peter Liang, while upholding justice!
4) 80-20 will be doing much fact findings and fact checkings in matters*
shown
below my name . I encourage all to volunteer your effort to help.
Forward this e-newsletter!
Step by Step We Will Strengthen Ourselves!
WANT SERVICE? Pay for it, although I and many others have worked for
YOU
for free for the last 16 years.
DONATE to SELF till it hurts.
S.B. Woo, a volunteer
President, 80-20 Asian Am. National Educational Foundation
www.80-20EF.org
Help us spread the word, like us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter !
* Facts that 80-20 is very interested in verifying:
i) Were Liang and his partner explicitly ordered not to do vertical
patrolling in that building by their boss?
ii) Had Liang admitted that his finger was on the trigger? Or, did he state
that his finger was along the
gun barrel but slipped when his right shoulder hit a door?
iii) Is there any physical evidence that the bullet hit the wall and
ricocheted? Has the physical evidence
been protected and/or photographed?
iv) Did Liang and his partner call the Police Union first and 4 minutes
later call 911?
v) Some articles describe the stairwell as being "pitch black." Is it true
? The jury could easily be
convinced that Officer Liang would feel threatened in this dangerous
public housing project area
where the stairwell is pitch black. Would it then have been reasonable
for him to keep the finger
on the trigger?
vi) What other police shooting or assault cases has the Brooklyn DA
prosecuted recently?
vII) What role did Liang's partner play in this incident? Is he under
investigation or being disciplined?
【在 n********h 的大作中提到】
:
: 你可以写EMAIL，要求他们对梁警官的事表态。还可以给本区的参，众议员写信，要求
: 他们对此事公开表态。
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 17 80-20 要干预司法了。强。当然要收些钱。
最后一个问题最搞笑：人家搭档和地区检察官的交易细节，不会公开的。 |
t***h
发帖数: 2924 | 18 80-20每次都等到风向已经定了,就出来摘桃子,
几乎从来都没有刚一发生事件的时候就出来当领袖.
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】
: 我这还没给他们写信呢，80-20已经表态了，就是说那些去签名petition的都是傻逼。
: Have you heard about the arraignment against Officer Peter Liang of the
: NYPD? 80-20 has received many emails from Asian Ams pleading for us to
: look into this matter.
: After a Board meeting, 80-2O Initiative takes the following positions:
: 1) It shall not let Officer Peter Liang be the victim of political
: scapegoating, if
: indeed we conclude this is the case, after our thorough fact-finding.
: 2) It advises Asian Ams. not to join or participate in petitions and
: movements
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J********y
发帖数: 263 | 19 这里有一个80-20的声明：
http://www.8020politicalpower.blogspot.com/2015/02/our-interest
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】
: 前一阵我收到很多80-20要求捐款的电子邮件，而且电邮里面说他们确实
: 也已经收到了不少捐款。在我们的华人警官被不公平对待的时候，80-20
: 为什么没有组织抗议，连发声都没有？
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u*****a
发帖数: 6276 | 20 如果该组织一年才能拉到十万美元的赞助，那可真是捉肘见襟，该换换募捐的方式了。 |
