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== The piano is dying.
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== News links :
Piano Stores Are Closing As Fewer Children Take Up The Instrument :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/02/piano-stores-are-closi
The piano's status in U.S. living rooms is declining :
http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html
Too Many of You Quit Piano Lessons, And Now Dumps Are Overflowing with Old
Pianos :
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/31/too-many-of-you-quit-piano-
For More Pianos, Last Note Is Thud in the Dump
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/arts/music/for-more-pianos-la
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== Quote #1 : "It isn't that our need for music has diminished,"
It isn't that our need for music has diminished, said James Parakilas,
music department chairman at Bates College in Maine and author of
"Piano Roles: 300 Years of Life With the Piano." In fact, our opportunities
to hear music seem to be increasing: at home, in cars, even as we walk or
jog, buds nestled in our ears. It's that there are so many ways to make
and listen to music, and most of them are less demanding and expensive
than actually playing the piano.
http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html
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== Quote #2: "The fall of the piano has been a long time coming, really."
The fall of the piano has been a long time coming, really. The heyday
of the ivory-keyed beauties lasted from 1900 to 1930, according to
statistics provided to the Times by the National Piano Manufacturers
Association. As the main source of musical entertainment — or most
entertainment inside the home, for that matter — in the late 19th and
early 20th centuries, the piano was a staple. But then radios came
along and became the first to make a dent in the piano’s stronghold.
Keyboards and all things digital soon followed. And now, as you struggle
to find a home for grandma’s old piano, it may end up the same place
that many are now going: the dump.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/31/too-many-of-you-quit-piano-
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== Quote #3 : "Youth sports demands also compete with music studies."
Youth sports demands also compete with music studies. "Children these
days are being recruited for so many other activities, whether it's soccer,
gymnastics, or swimming," said Robin Walenta, CEO of West Music, a music
retailer with a chain of stores in Iowa and Illinois.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/02/piano-stores-are-closi
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== Quote #4 : “We bust them up with a sledgehammer,”
Piano movers are making regular runs to the dump, becoming adept at
dismantling instruments, selling parts to artists, even burning them for
firewood.
“We bust them up with a sledgehammer,” said Jeffrey Harrington, the
owner of Harrington Moving & Storage in Maplewood, N.J.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/arts/music/for-more-pianos-la
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== Quote #5 : "piano playing is a little like black-and-white movies."
Jeffrey Lavner, a piano teacher at the Colburn School in downtown L.A., puts
it this way: "I think piano playing is a little like black-and-white movies."
http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html |
t******l 发帖数: 10908 | 2 The purpose of the post is to provide links to relevant mainstream news,
that contain statistical/trending information w/ various analysis.
I myself am not in the position to directly debate with anyone in this
thread, but other people may wish to debate on various points. So thanks in
advance for everyone's participation in this discussion thread. And everyone
's opinion have been, and will be, respectfully acknowledged. |
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a*****g 发帖数: 19398 | 6 音乐是非常好的东西
可是 piano的同行(其他乐器)太多了,而它自己太笨拙了
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】 :
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t*c 发帖数: 8291 | 7 钢琴声音的美妙,很少有别的乐器可以比拟。
在我的感觉中,只有吉他,能在某些歌曲上在拨动我的心铉上跟钢琴比比上下。
至于说欣赏音乐,和演奏音乐的关系,
就像看体育比赛和自己上场的关系。
再多再方便和便宜的欣赏音乐的方法,也不能取代自己演奏的快乐。
【在 a*****g 的大作中提到】 : 音乐是非常好的东西 : 可是 piano的同行(其他乐器)太多了,而它自己太笨拙了
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t******l 发帖数: 10908 | 8 "It's that there are so many ways to make and listen
to music, and most of them are less demanding and
expensive than actually playing the piano."
-- Kindly be noticed the word "make music" in the paragraph.
http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html |
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d********t 发帖数: 837 | 14 Piano都两百多年了,自然有很多一百多年的旧钢琴。你用sledgehammer 砸旧琴,还有
人用重型机械把40年的奔驰压成饼呢。能说明现在没人要新奔驰了?
之所以很多旧钢琴没人要了是因为以前很多中产买钢琴装b.家里也没人会弹,就一个摆
设。现在这批钢琴都转手不了只好成废品砸了。钢琴作为装b的家具,可能会过时。钢
琴作为一种乐器,加上电钢琴的进步,短期内是不会被淘汰的。
你个挖坑的水平太差了。
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】 : ====================== : == The piano is dying. : ====================== : ================================================================= : == News links : : Piano Stores Are Closing As Fewer Children Take Up The Instrument : : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/02/piano-stores-are-closi : The piano's status in U.S. living rooms is declining : : http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html : Too Many of You Quit Piano Lessons, And Now Dumps Are Overflowing with Old
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t******l 发帖数: 10908 | 15 The purpose of the post is to provide links to relevant mainstream news,
that contain statistical/trending information w/ various analysis.
I myself am not in the position to debate with you, but others may. So
thanks for participating this discussion. Sure your opinion has been
respectfully acknowledged.
【在 d********t 的大作中提到】 : Piano都两百多年了,自然有很多一百多年的旧钢琴。你用sledgehammer 砸旧琴,还有 : 人用重型机械把40年的奔驰压成饼呢。能说明现在没人要新奔驰了? : 之所以很多旧钢琴没人要了是因为以前很多中产买钢琴装b.家里也没人会弹,就一个摆 : 设。现在这批钢琴都转手不了只好成废品砸了。钢琴作为装b的家具,可能会过时。钢 : 琴作为一种乐器,加上电钢琴的进步,短期内是不会被淘汰的。 : 你个挖坑的水平太差了。
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p****m 发帖数: 860 | 16 我家娃的老师已经教了40年的钢琴,她说近几年的新学生只有中国和印度孩子了。 |
t******l 发帖数: 10908 | 17 seems it is trend
【在 p****m 的大作中提到】 : 我家娃的老师已经教了40年的钢琴,她说近几年的新学生只有中国和印度孩子了。
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h********u 发帖数: 2207 | 18 我娃儿的老师那儿我碰到的也都是中国孩子,我碰到的不多,五,六个吧。不过我不纠
结要不要娃儿学钢琴,因为我娃儿喜欢。 |
j******0 发帖数: 461 | 19 我和几个美国律师聊过, 包括开律师事务所的经理人,他们都送孩子去学钢琴。他们
说音乐是一种修养。
而且孩子如果不肯学, 他们也会想方设法劝孩子学。
几个医生还有医学院的教授说, 学钢琴对孩子的大脑和小脑的发育有好处,
而且将来老了还不容易得老年痴呆症。加上他们也喜欢听音乐,所以
他们也买了钢琴让孩子学。这些人都不是亚裔。
这学不学钢琴, 每家的情况不同, 各位自己选择。
在美国,没有人能够对你的选择负责的, 只有你自己。
当初社会上鼓吹知识无用论的时候, 我认识的几位医生和律师根本不理会。
现在这些言论经不起时间的考验, 所以凡事要有自己的
见解,用不着随大流。 孩子喜欢音乐就去学吧, 不然
以后孩子可能会怨父母的。
【在 h********u 的大作中提到】 : 我娃儿的老师那儿我碰到的也都是中国孩子,我碰到的不多,五,六个吧。不过我不纠 : 结要不要娃儿学钢琴,因为我娃儿喜欢。
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d****g 发帖数: 7460 | 20 这种举证靠四大名人的贴和月光的贴没什么区别
【在 j******0 的大作中提到】 : 我和几个美国律师聊过, 包括开律师事务所的经理人,他们都送孩子去学钢琴。他们 : 说音乐是一种修养。 : 而且孩子如果不肯学, 他们也会想方设法劝孩子学。 : 几个医生还有医学院的教授说, 学钢琴对孩子的大脑和小脑的发育有好处, : 而且将来老了还不容易得老年痴呆症。加上他们也喜欢听音乐,所以 : 他们也买了钢琴让孩子学。这些人都不是亚裔。 : 这学不学钢琴, 每家的情况不同, 各位自己选择。 : 在美国,没有人能够对你的选择负责的, 只有你自己。 : 当初社会上鼓吹知识无用论的时候, 我认识的几位医生和律师根本不理会。 : 现在这些言论经不起时间的考验, 所以凡事要有自己的
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n***p 发帖数: 7668 | 21 总之华人干什么都是错的,吃屎都赶不上热的。
【在 d****g 的大作中提到】 : 这种举证靠四大名人的贴和月光的贴没什么区别
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k******b 发帖数: 4501 | 22 是的。
况且,音乐又不等于钢琴。不弹钢琴又不等于不接触音乐。
一谈钢琴就扯音乐不是偷换概念,就是无脑。
【在 d****g 的大作中提到】 : 这种举证靠四大名人的贴和月光的贴没什么区别
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S*******s 发帖数: 13043 | 23 可能你心弦的阈限太高了。:)
几乎每种乐器,不管是solo,还是合奏,都有打动我的时候,小提、大提、贝斯、三弦
、京胡、埙...
【在 t*c 的大作中提到】 : 钢琴声音的美妙,很少有别的乐器可以比拟。 : 在我的感觉中,只有吉他,能在某些歌曲上在拨动我的心铉上跟钢琴比比上下。 : 至于说欣赏音乐,和演奏音乐的关系, : 就像看体育比赛和自己上场的关系。 : 再多再方便和便宜的欣赏音乐的方法,也不能取代自己演奏的快乐。
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S*******s 发帖数: 13043 | 24 的确。而且当年华人们干的比他们现在要彻底的多,捣毁宗庙,批斗教授,解散学校,
招生看综合素质。
【在 n***p 的大作中提到】 : 总之华人干什么都是错的,吃屎都赶不上热的。
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t*******m 发帖数: 999 | 25 谢谢分享。
不过,钢琴真的很好听。也许以前是把钢琴的地位提的的太高了,现在只是回归正常。
【在 t******l 的大作中提到】 : ====================== : == The piano is dying. : ====================== : ================================================================= : == News links : : Piano Stores Are Closing As Fewer Children Take Up The Instrument : : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/02/piano-stores-are-closi : The piano's status in U.S. living rooms is declining : : http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-pianos16-2009may16-story.html : Too Many of You Quit Piano Lessons, And Now Dumps Are Overflowing with Old
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