l******o 发帖数: 8344 | 1 BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB
HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR
谢谢~ | k**a 发帖数: 284 | 2 刚才看了一下vault.com的调查报告,说boston 附近的Scientist III
的薪水平均是这样的
Benefit Median Amount % of Total
Base salary $117,582 72%
Bonuses $3,474 2%
Social Security $7,335 4%
401k/403b $7,505 5%
Disability $1,937 1%
Healthcare $5,328 3%
Pension $5,084 3%
Time off $15,830 10%
Total $164,076 100%
单看base salary
Scientist III - Biotech
25th Percent
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB : HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR : 谢谢~
| R*s 发帖数: 2041 | 3 how many levels of phd scientists in that company and what are their titles?
anyway, 97K in a big pharma in Boston is not bad and salary is always hard to negotiate. The other package looks standard. You may ask for more sign-on bonus etc.
Whether industry or academia is your own call (or your LD's). Industry for
sure has less pressure (at least compared to the first 5 years as an
assisstant professor in bio). But it's probably less fun IMHO.
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB : HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR : 谢谢~
| s*****y 发帖数: 4595 | 4 zan! boston pharm are so well-paid.:)
【在 k**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 刚才看了一下vault.com的调查报告,说boston 附近的Scientist III : 的薪水平均是这样的 : Benefit Median Amount % of Total : Base salary $117,582 72% : Bonuses $3,474 2% : Social Security $7,335 4% : 401k/403b $7,505 5% : Disability $1,937 1% : Healthcare $5,328 3% : Pension $5,084 3%
| l******o 发帖数: 8344 | 5 谢谢, 看来果然有谈判的余地在那儿.
【在 k**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 刚才看了一下vault.com的调查报告,说boston 附近的Scientist III : 的薪水平均是这样的 : Benefit Median Amount % of Total : Base salary $117,582 72% : Bonuses $3,474 2% : Social Security $7,335 4% : 401k/403b $7,505 5% : Disability $1,937 1% : Healthcare $5,328 3% : Pension $5,084 3%
| k**a 发帖数: 284 | 6 你可以仔细查查vault,里面还有不同职位的工资统计。
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢谢, 看来果然有谈判的余地在那儿.
| k**a 发帖数: 284 | 7 像你lg这样的牛人贱卖了对将来不好。
最好还是等晚上板上的牛人们下了班吃了饭再来讨论吧
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢谢, 看来果然有谈判的余地在那儿.
| m*p 发帖数: 212 | 8 novartis? pretty good offer, are u sure it is 4 weeks vacation?
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB : HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR : 谢谢~
| m*p 发帖数: 212 | 9 seems they define scientist III as scientist with 6+ years industry
experience, then 117k is not that much.
【在 k**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 刚才看了一下vault.com的调查报告,说boston 附近的Scientist III : 的薪水平均是这样的 : Benefit Median Amount % of Total : Base salary $117,582 72% : Bonuses $3,474 2% : Social Security $7,335 4% : 401k/403b $7,505 5% : Disability $1,937 1% : Healthcare $5,328 3% : Pension $5,084 3%
| k**a 发帖数: 284 | 10 一年academia experience折几年industry?
【在 m*p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : seems they define scientist III as scientist with 6+ years industry : experience, then 117k is not that much.
| | | s*********r 发帖数: 113 | 11
It depends on individual companies. Some companies don't recognize academia
experience at all, while some companies give full credit to academia
experience.
【在 k**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一年academia experience折几年industry?
| i****f 发帖数: 473 | 12 you gonna be kidding me
you don't work in the industry for FUN
kinda person like you would be the definite trouble-maker the industry would
try to avoid when they hire someone.
titles?
to negotiate. The other package looks standard. You may ask for more sign-
on bonus etc.
【在 R*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : how many levels of phd scientists in that company and what are their titles? : anyway, 97K in a big pharma in Boston is not bad and salary is always hard to negotiate. The other package looks standard. You may ask for more sign-on bonus etc. : Whether industry or academia is your own call (or your LD's). Industry for : sure has less pressure (at least compared to the first 5 years as an : assisstant professor in bio). But it's probably less fun IMHO.
| j*********8 发帖数: 1 | 13 Scientist III 应该是更高的级别,Project Investigator/Lab Leader恐怕是
Scientist II的职位。在大波地区药厂的Scientist II应该可以有$90k-120k的base
pay,3年半的经验对于这个级别来说比较少,应该值$90k-100k左右。
我自己也是药厂工作的PhD,说实话我不建议negotiate基础工资,因为一般涨也涨不了
多少,而且往往人家先给你涨了,然后下次加薪的时候就会少给你加点,里外里是一样
的。 | s*****r 发帖数: 9 | 14 lz满好把生物版的原贴发过来的,比方97k的base salary啊,4 weeks vacation,还有
bonus等等,利于大家分析。 | y********1 发帖数: 33 | 15 what specific background are you? why somebody said that biochem background
hard to find a industry job?? | k**a 发帖数: 284 | 16 who said biochemist hard to enter industry?
background
【在 y********1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what specific background are you? why somebody said that biochem background : hard to find a industry job??
| s******a 发帖数: 7 | 17 you mean LAB Leader or Lab Head, not Lab Header, right?
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB : HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR : 谢谢~
| m*p 发帖数: 212 | 18 right, the job title looks like novartis, but there are few companies give
4 weeks vacation to fresh employees, including major pharmas. | s*****r 发帖数: 9 | 19 好人做到底,为了lz充当一次搬运工,lz的lg背景是酱紫地(原贴转自生物版,俺没敢
改一个字,包括e文字母的顺序)
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1.劳工POST DOC做了有几年了,在老婆的叨叨叨下,终于受不了,发了几封简历,拿了个制
药厂OFFER. (他自己本人是很想留在ACADEMIA 继续发展的)
现在TITLE是个工业界的PI, BASE SALARY 是97000, + 14%
BONUS, 此外有四个星期带\薪休假, 万把块现金搬家费(不需要发票), 无上限但需要发
票的搬家费等.另外有些乱七八糟的如果你买房子,帮你付CLOSING FEE, 再付点儿抵押
贷款等小钱.
我觉得还不错了,挺满意了, 劳工觉得放弃他心爱的ACADEMIA生涯,代价很大, 觉得BASE
SALARY低了些, 想要往上NEGOCIATE, 一般工业界大制药厂你们都在拿多少啊? 能否透
露一下,谢谢.
2.其实他的梦想是虽然没有美国PHD学历,但要在美国名校做FACULTY的, 我觉得生物PI
太辛苦, 我明明是为他好, 不过我劳工总是试图让我觉得我很GUILTY,让他 | E***n 发帖数: 308 | 20 if he is really good, don't stop him.
don't be shortsight.Industry is boring.
BASE
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好人做到底,为了lz充当一次搬运工,lz的lg背景是酱紫地(原贴转自生物版,俺没敢 : 改一个字,包括e文字母的顺序) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : 1.劳工POST DOC做了有几年了,在老婆的叨叨叨下,终于受不了,发了几封简历,拿了个制 : 药厂OFFER. (他自己本人是很想留在ACADEMIA 继续发展的) : 现在TITLE是个工业界的PI, BASE SALARY 是97000, + 14% : BONUS, 此外有四个星期带\薪休假, 万把块现金搬家费(不需要发票), 无上限但需要发 : 票的搬家费等.另外有些乱七八糟的如果你买房子,帮你付CLOSING FEE, 再付点儿抵押 : 贷款等小钱. : 我觉得还不错了,挺满意了, 劳工觉得放弃他心爱的ACADEMIA生涯,代价很大, 觉得BASE
| h*****t 发帖数: 1226 | 21
Project Investigator?? Sounds to me, it is like a " 虚衔", once the
project is over, no more investigator is needed.
Usually, small company is flexible with titles, but salary is in a narrow
range. Large compnay is stricted with titles, but has a broad range for
salary.
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : BACKGROUND, 生物PHD+3.5 YEAR POST DOC EXPERIENCE. 具体TITLE面试时候LAB : HEADER,后来HR改成PROJECT INVESTIGATOR : 谢谢~
| b**u 发帖数: 2761 | 22 不好意思,最近比较忙,包子来了.
BASE
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好人做到底,为了lz充当一次搬运工,lz的lg背景是酱紫地(原贴转自生物版,俺没敢 : 改一个字,包括e文字母的顺序) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : 1.劳工POST DOC做了有几年了,在老婆的叨叨叨下,终于受不了,发了几封简历,拿了个制 : 药厂OFFER. (他自己本人是很想留在ACADEMIA 继续发展的) : 现在TITLE是个工业界的PI, BASE SALARY 是97000, + 14% : BONUS, 此外有四个星期带\薪休假, 万把块现金搬家费(不需要发票), 无上限但需要发 : 票的搬家费等.另外有些乱七八糟的如果你买房子,帮你付CLOSING FEE, 再付点儿抵押 : 贷款等小钱. : 我觉得还不错了,挺满意了, 劳工觉得放弃他心爱的ACADEMIA生涯,代价很大, 觉得BASE
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