c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 1 -另开一线吧，器材版 is all about gear talk, right?
-this is a work in progress. More details may be filled in as I play with
the 6D. This becomes important if you use extender.
Before I start, there are plenty reviews out there that should complement my
review. Rather than a comprehensive side to side comparison, this is a
subjective summary of what I like and don't like about each camera in the
key areas that I am interested in. With that said:
1) Ergonomics. While I have been using both Canon and Nikon for many years,
my personal preference has always been Nikon. Not the case for D600. I can
ignore the cheap plasticky feel, but I don't like how Nikon changed the top
right area, making it more contour than flat. 6D's finger rest by the
shutter is a win. The 6D is lighter, but feels good. Good grip. Preview
button has been moved to the "right" side.
2) Central AF point. 6D is very responsive in decent light. In low light, it
manages to lock focus, not as fast, but not shoddy either. It is marginally
better than D600. But keep in mind the center AF point on D600 is f/8
sensitive, one stop faster than 6d. Another factor is the 6D center AF point
is sensitive to -3EV, while the D600 is -1. Yet D600 wins one stop back by
being able to meter at 0EV while 6D's meter stops at 1EV. For all practical
purposes, the difference to light sensitivity can be put in the back of your
mind.
3) LV AF: D600 wins hands down. D600 is fast and somewhat snappy. 6D is
constantly hunting, to the point of being annoying.
4) Video. 6D has no refocusing during video recording.
4) Shutter sound. Canon has improved the sloppy shutter sound that is in its
genes since the 5D era. The 6D's shutter, while not as crispy as D600, is
acceptable.
5) Off-centr AF in static shot.
6) Dynamic AF.
7) Meter accuracy.
8) Shadow noise. Preliminary impression: 6D has less visible artifacts
compared to D600. Please note DXOmark rated D600's ISO performance to be
better than 6D. I don't care how they do their test, but in my experience
the 6D is slightly better than D600. Maybe pixel density plays a factor here
. But, keep in mind though, the artifacts from both 6D and D600 do not have
the natural film look. Rather, it's the uncomplimenting electronic pattern.
9) GPS on 6D. Winner. If you travel and like to take pictures, you are gonna
love this feature. You can get external GPS on the D600, but odds of people
forking over extra for unnecessary accessories are, low at best.
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p.s. On the dusty sensor issue of D600: It's there, and it's been blown out
of proportion. If you have never use a dSLR in the pre-self-cleaning sensor
era, then yes this might scare you. But reality is, it's nothing. Why? 1)
Ask yourself, do you constantly shoot below f/16? (if you do, ask why again-
why in the world would you shoot at f/16 for anything? ) 2) Why do you buy
full frame? Shallow DOF is a main reason right? Those dust/oily specks won't
show up in your picture till about f/16. 3) DIY cleaning is super easy, if
you are so obsessed about the issue. Or wait for D610, or whatever your
alleged "perfect" camera it is that will be released if you skip the current
model, so you can spend your time enjoying the wait rather than on petty
things like taking pictures. 4) For money's sake. The D600 is a great deal
at the current used market price. For $1400 you get a stellar camera. Isn't
good deal the most important factor for you guys, or most people, anyway? |
p*****c
发帖数: 2858 | 2 太长。求摘要。
my
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top
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: -另开一线吧，器材版 is all about gear talk, right?
: -this is a work in progress. More details may be filled in as I play with
: the 6D. This becomes important if you use extender.
: Before I start, there are plenty reviews out there that should complement my
: review. Rather than a comprehensive side to side comparison, this is a
: subjective summary of what I like and don't like about each camera in the
: key areas that I am interested in. With that said:
: 1) Ergonomics. While I have been using both Canon and Nikon for many years,
: my personal preference has always been Nikon. Not the case for D600. I can
: ignore the cheap plasticky feel, but I don't like how Nikon changed the top
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c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 3 目前为止的不完全印象：
6D 静态对焦centerAF表现出色，加上AF敏感光圈和测光的综合考量，跟d600差不多，
6D略好。
边缘对焦和动态：待测
噪音：6D 略好。可能d600像素密度高。不过两个的噪点都不是像胶片那样自然的。电
子感都在。
live view AF： D600完全胜出。不是一个档次。
d600 sensor dust：不是问题。看在钱的份上，可以忽略。
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 太长。求摘要。
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a*******e
发帖数: 3021 | 4 拍风景的不都是1/16以下拍马,微距是不是也这样
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 目前为止的不完全印象：
: 6D 静态对焦centerAF表现出色，加上AF敏感光圈和测光的综合考量，跟d600差不多，
: 6D略好。
: 边缘对焦和动态：待测
: 噪音：6D 略好。可能d600像素密度高。不过两个的噪点都不是像胶片那样自然的。电
: 子感都在。
: live view AF： D600完全胜出。不是一个档次。
: d600 sensor dust：不是问题。看在钱的份上，可以忽略。
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w****e
发帖数: 2210 | 5 D６１０不可能仅仅改善dust sensor的问题。不然不会改名字。
我猜D６１０可能快门加了１／８０００sec。应该还有其他的改变，不过不会太多。。 |
g**********g
发帖数: 18118 | 6 No, exactly same
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: D６１０不可能仅仅改善dust sensor的问题。不然不会改名字。
: 我猜D６１０可能快门加了１／８０００sec。应该还有其他的改变，不过不会太多。。
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R***a
发帖数: 41892 | 7 按照习惯应该叫D600c c= clean
【在 g**********g 的大作中提到】
: No, exactly same
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D****e
发帖数: 2283 | 8 开个菠菜吧
【在 g**********g 的大作中提到】
: No, exactly same
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 9 赌d610是否有1/8000快门？
【在 D****e 的大作中提到】
: 开个菠菜吧
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p*****c
发帖数: 2858 | 10 赌是否仅解决漏油，或者加了些不影响拍摄性能的小feature，例如wifi/gps
【在 a********l 的大作中提到】
: 赌d610是否有1/8000快门？
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w****e
发帖数: 2210 | 11 赌 If D610 and D600 are exactly same except the sensor dust's removal.
【在 a********l 的大作中提到】
: 赌d610是否有1/8000快门？
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 12 可能性几乎不存在吧？
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: 赌 If D610 and D600 are exactly same except the sensor dust's removal.
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | |
c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 14 更新了动态对焦。6D failed. 不过像我再另一线说的，6D照静态还是没有问题的，甚
至比d600好，也比5d3值。说到底是看你那个feature更需要了。
【在 p*****c 的大作中提到】
: 太长。求摘要。
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: my
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: top
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c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 15 f/16一下由于衍射，成像质量反而下降。即使是照深景深的风景照，f/13够了。
【在 a*******e 的大作中提到】
: 拍风景的不都是1/16以下拍马,微距是不是也这样
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E********n
发帖数: 14662 | 16 结果出来一看，八千分一有了，漏油依旧，广大铁粉表示完全理解，全盘接受，怡然自
得。 |
c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 17 铁丝心态，你懂的。
1/8000倒真用不着。实在不行用个ND filter就解决了。
【在 E********n 的大作中提到】
: 结果出来一看，八千分一有了，漏油依旧，广大铁粉表示完全理解，全盘接受，怡然自
: 得。
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c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 18 6D LOW LIGHT: iso 12800. -18 noise reduction in PS. |
d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 19 这个牛。看起来比5D3要好。
看前帖，6D的动态对焦真的是失败吗？
【在 c*****e 的大作中提到】
: 6D LOW LIGHT: iso 12800. -18 noise reduction in PS.
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c*****e
发帖数: 601 | 20 我再找白天的时候试试。不过一般用应该还好了。
关于high iso: 6D比D600好几乎一个stop, 比d700好1个多一点stop. X100和d7000差不
多，稍好。
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: 这个牛。看起来比5D3要好。
: 看前帖，6D的动态对焦真的是失败吗？
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