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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 2 How things look at 17000ft MSL. |
t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 3 Winter in Wyoming: a frozen world. |
t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 4 The Great Salt Lake, or the north bay of it. |
m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 5 我个人最喜欢这张
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : How things look at 17000ft MSL.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 7 How it looks after you take off from the highest commercial airport in US: |
t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 8 This take off requires some planning too: |
t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 9 This is where you are after you take off from the HIGHEST PUBLIC AIRPORT in
US. |
t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 10 Frozen Lake on the Great Plains, photo taken on New Year's Eve. |
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 11 Enough of moutains, ice and snow; this is Denver downtown. |
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 13 突然想起来,老大肯定认识qq吧
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Enough of moutains, ice and snow; this is Denver downtown.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 15
Who?
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 突然想起来,老大肯定认识qq吧
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 16 nevermore,本版创始人之一
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Who?
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 17
Ah yes, and she was my flight passenger once.
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nevermore,本版创始人之一
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 18 她写过一篇,刚才看到你贴Denver我就想会不会你是飞行员,呵呵
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Ah yes, and she was my flight passenger once.
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v*x 发帖数: 4785 | 19 这个是从南岸看地吧
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 响应号召, 来贴图: : Grand Canyon
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v*x 发帖数: 4785 | 20 那一片?
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她写过一篇,刚才看到你贴Denver我就想会不会你是飞行员,呵呵
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 21 outdoor有一篇吧,你找找
【在 v*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那一片?
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v*x 发帖数: 4785 | 22 你说本版害俺找一番
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : outdoor有一篇吧,你找找
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 23 等我给你转过来
【在 v*x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你说本版害俺找一番
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b*****e 发帖数: 1264 | 24 当时的DA多少,爬升很困难么
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This take off requires some planning too:
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b*****e 发帖数: 1264 | 25 具体在什么地方?
闹市在Class B Outer shelf下面?
飞行高度<8000MSL?
还是说,有clearance再进去飞的?
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Enough of moutains, ice and snow; this is Denver downtown.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 26
I believe I was in class B at 8500ft with clearance that time, though one
may fly at 7500ft to be under the shelf near downtown.
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 具体在什么地方? : 闹市在Class B Outer shelf下面? : 飞行高度<8000MSL? : 还是说,有clearance再进去飞的?
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 27
It's KGWS, DA was not a problem, but by local procedure, one is to fly very
close to the mountain/cliff on the left after take-off; and landing there
has two options: a long final where you cannot see the runway until the last
half mile, or a normal pattern where you make the base-to-final turn
seconds before you are about hit the cliff.
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当时的DA多少,爬升很困难么
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b*****e 发帖数: 1264 | 28 看了一下,跑道才3000尺。
夏天着陆岂不是空速稍微没控制好就得复飞了?很挑战啊
没有仪表帮助的话,最后半里之前都看不到跑道怎么玩?
very
last
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : It's KGWS, DA was not a problem, but by local procedure, one is to fly very : close to the mountain/cliff on the left after take-off; and landing there : has two options: a long final where you cannot see the runway until the last : half mile, or a normal pattern where you make the base-to-final turn : seconds before you are about hit the cliff.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 29
需要事先把地形看熟, 而且复飞的话前面两里外迎面又是11000ft的山, 也需要熟知地
形从Colorado River的峡谷里转弯飞出去才行. 每次去那里都是复习short-field
take-off/landing的机会.
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看了一下,跑道才3000尺。 : 夏天着陆岂不是空速稍微没控制好就得复飞了?很挑战啊 : 没有仪表帮助的话,最后半里之前都看不到跑道怎么玩? : : very : last
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 30 你那架飞机的起飞和降落滑行距离分别是多少啊?
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 需要事先把地形看熟, 而且复飞的话前面两里外迎面又是11000ft的山, 也需要熟知地 : 形从Colorado River的峡谷里转弯飞出去才行. 每次去那里都是复习short-field : take-off/landing的机会.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 31
At max weight, 5000ft elevation, normal temperature, no wind:
Takeoff: 1300ft ground roll, 2200ft to clear 50ft obstacle
Landing: 800ft ground roll, 1500ft to clear 50ft obstacle
But these are book numbers, in reality one always needs more distance.
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你那架飞机的起飞和降落滑行距离分别是多少啊?
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 32 难道处于安全考虑,不应该book number大于实际的number么?
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : At max weight, 5000ft elevation, normal temperature, no wind: : Takeoff: 1300ft ground roll, 2200ft to clear 50ft obstacle : Landing: 800ft ground roll, 1500ft to clear 50ft obstacle : But these are book numbers, in reality one always needs more distance.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 33
Book numbers were flown by the test pilot under ideal condition with a brand
new airplane...
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 难道处于安全考虑,不应该book number大于实际的number么?
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b*****e 发帖数: 1264 | 34 生产商的试飞员水平可是要远远高出普通飞行员。所以就像trajan说的,手册给的数据
不是每个人都做得到。
比如着陆滑跑,距离和速度平方成正比。速度控制的不好,哪怕多那么几节,结果也会
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 36
Nope, just something I saw here:
http://icanhascheezburger.com/
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好奇的问trajan: : 头像是你的猫?
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g*******e 发帖数: 1706 | 37 17000? Single engine? with o2 mask?
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : How things look at 17000ft MSL.
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 38
With O2 bottle and cannula, mask is needed for > 18000ft.
【在 g*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 17000? Single engine? with o2 mask?
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m*******e 发帖数: 21667 | 39 老大啥时候准备开喷气式?
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : With O2 bottle and cannula, mask is needed for > 18000ft.
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g*******e 发帖数: 1706 | 41 suicidal...:)
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有没有试过短时间不用氧气?
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t****n 发帖数: 1347 | 42 I have hiked ten different 14000+ ft mountain peaks, I am quite sure 17000ft
without supplement oxygen won't kill me, but I follow the regulation anyway.
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有没有试过短时间不用氧气?
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