p*****2
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H*******g
发帖数: 6997 | 2 The United States Homeland Security Department issued a stern warning to
computer users yesterday and advised them to continue to disable or remove
Java, a programming language and computing platform for PCs, because of the
high risk of hackers using Java to infiltrate and steal information or
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z****e
发帖数: 54598 | 3 给你一个形象的比喻
你说的是applet也就是jvm上的silverlight
which m$已经打算不搞了
也就是java这种有兼容承诺的语言还在搞
the
【在 H*******g 的大作中提到】
: The United States Homeland Security Department issued a stern warning to
: computer users yesterday and advised them to continue to disable or remove
: Java, a programming language and computing platform for PCs, because of the
: high risk of hackers using Java to infiltrate and steal information or
: upload dangerous malware to computers.
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H*******g
发帖数: 6997 | 4 is it JAVA or not
【在 z****e 的大作中提到】
: 给你一个形象的比喻
: 你说的是applet也就是jvm上的silverlight
: which m$已经打算不搞了
: 也就是java这种有兼容承诺的语言还在搞
:
: the
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 5
The guy is a fool that cannot even get the basic fact right. His
idea of .Net only does things synchronously so he needs to switch
out to get asynchronous options shows his ignorance.
【在 p*****2 的大作中提到】
: http://blog.jonathanoliver.com/why-i-left-dot-net/
: .net看来被众人所抛弃呀
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 6 applet can be as dead as silverlight and I couldn't care less.
the
【在 H*******g 的大作中提到】
: The United States Homeland Security Department issued a stern warning to
: computer users yesterday and advised them to continue to disable or remove
: Java, a programming language and computing platform for PCs, because of the
: high risk of hackers using Java to infiltrate and steal information or
: upload dangerous malware to computers.
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c********l
发帖数: 8138 | 7 这个逻辑：“希望大家远离钢铁，因为所有的抢劫案的凶手手上的枪都是用钢铁做的”
the
【在 H*******g 的大作中提到】
: The United States Homeland Security Department issued a stern warning to
: computer users yesterday and advised them to continue to disable or remove
: Java, a programming language and computing platform for PCs, because of the
: high risk of hackers using Java to infiltrate and steal information or
: upload dangerous malware to computers.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 8 The issue about .Net is that M$ tried to make developers believe there's one
way and only way to do things, the M$ way. You don't need choices. You don'
t need competing frameworks and solutions. And when you really try to do
that (Alt.net or whatever), you are penalized with little to none support in
IDE among other things.
This may work should M$ have the best technologies. Unfortunately, this is
far from the case. They don't have the best hosting server (that belongs to
Linux), best DB (that belongs to Oracle, MySql or NoSQL DB depending on your
scenario), best frameworks (EF 10 yrs after Hibernate, MVC 10+ yrs after
Struts, LOL), or best community (a joke compared to JVM community).
So what's left behind? Mediocre developers stuck in mediocre solution and
they find their skillset non-attractive outside of M$ world.
I am not the least surprised when a M$ guy defending .Net to death. The
writing is on the wall and he's desperate.
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
:
: The guy is a fool that cannot even get the basic fact right. His
: idea of .Net only does things synchronously so he needs to switch
: out to get asynchronous options shows his ignorance.
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 9 Another round of the same old lies and BS. Let's see.
Complete rubbish. If you need IDE support then just write a plugin
for Visual Studio. The API is there for everyone, and lots ISVs are
doing it.
Yeah? So why does half the server market revenue goes to Windows?
And MySql is the best DB? LOL. You mean the very sucker that gets no
adoption from any top finance firms despite being free is your "best
DB"? You mean the very sucker that was supposed to compete against
the proprietary Oracle and Sql Server but ended up being purchased
by Oracle to save its sorrow @$$? LOL.
And this Hibernate framework - a scalability / caching liability
which is an inherent problem of all ORMs compared w/ pure SPs. Who
would consider such flawed framework worth bragging about unless of
course if he does not have much to show for so he decides to throw
every crap onto the wall hoping one would stick.
And .Net has no advanced framework? LOL. Look at the asynchronous
programming buzz out there. Everyone was trying to copy what .Net
has been doing for 10 years. We .Net devs don't brag about it as
it's no big deal to us just like we don't consider Struts copying
MVC from MFC a big deal, unlike you that are so desperate you came
up w/ nonsense or pure lies one after another ("5000 xml elements"
anyone?) to get the score even. LOL. Pathetic.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: The issue about .Net is that M$ tried to make developers believe there's one
: way and only way to do things, the M$ way. You don't need choices. You don'
: t need competing frameworks and solutions. And when you really try to do
: that (Alt.net or whatever), you are penalized with little to none support in
: IDE among other things.
: This may work should M$ have the best technologies. Unfortunately, this is
: far from the case. They don't have the best hosting server (that belongs to
: Linux), best DB (that belongs to Oracle, MySql or NoSQL DB depending on your
: scenario), best frameworks (EF 10 yrs after Hibernate, MVC 10+ yrs after
: Struts, LOL), or best community (a joke compared to JVM community).
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 10 你为嘛这么不要脸呢，还.net async 10年了。
大家来看看啥时候.net有async的。
清清楚楚2012年才有的支持，之前只能自己写。
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kztecsys(v=vs.110).aspx
Mina和Netty才真是有10年左右历史了，软毛就是不要脸。
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: Another round of the same old lies and BS. Let's see.
:
: Complete rubbish. If you need IDE support then just write a plugin
: for Visual Studio. The API is there for everyone, and lots ISVs are
: doing it.
: Yeah? So why does half the server market revenue goes to Windows?
: And MySql is the best DB? LOL. You mean the very sucker that gets no
: adoption from any top finance firms despite being free is your "best
: DB"? You mean the very sucker that was supposed to compete against
: the proprietary Oracle and Sql Server but ended up being purchased
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 11
我具体说"async"了吗？我说的是"asynchronous programming", .Net从1.1
就开始推广的通用模板，相比之下MINA和NETTY等网络专用框架差飞了。
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h80ttd5f(v=vs.71).aspx
async是对asynchronous programming进一步完善，去掉CALLBACK。.NET之
外的开源平台像NODE之流还处在写个CALLBACK就不知天高地厚出来吹的档次
上。每次看PEKING2无知无畏吹NODE我就发笑。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你为嘛这么不要脸呢，还.net async 10年了。
: 大家来看看啥时候.net有async的。
: 清清楚楚2012年才有的支持，之前只能自己写。
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kztecsys(v=vs.110).aspx
: Mina和Netty才真是有10年左右历史了，软毛就是不要脸。
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p*****2
发帖数: 21240 | 12
大牛先解释一下为什么M那么亲Node的屁股呢？
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 我具体说"async"了吗？我说的是"asynchronous programming", .Net从1.1
: 就开始推广的通用模板，相比之下MINA和NETTY等网络专用框架差飞了。
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h80ttd5f(v=vs.71).aspx
: async是对asynchronous programming进一步完善，去掉CALLBACK。.NET之
: 外的开源平台像NODE之流还处在写个CALLBACK就不知天高地厚出来吹的档次
: 上。每次看PEKING2无知无畏吹NODE我就发笑。
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 13 呵呵，吵架是计算机专业的传统啊。以前连个endian type都要从哲学高度吵个不亦乐
乎。
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: Another round of the same old lies and BS. Let's see.
:
: Complete rubbish. If you need IDE support then just write a plugin
: for Visual Studio. The API is there for everyone, and lots ISVs are
: doing it.
: Yeah? So why does half the server market revenue goes to Windows?
: And MySql is the best DB? LOL. You mean the very sucker that gets no
: adoption from any top finance firms despite being free is your "best
: DB"? You mean the very sucker that was supposed to compete against
: the proprietary Oracle and Sql Server but ended up being purchased
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 14 这个只是异步，一个future callback操作，没有提到使用操作系统的async IO好不好。
你是不是连区别都分不清楚。
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 我具体说"async"了吗？我说的是"asynchronous programming", .Net从1.1
: 就开始推广的通用模板，相比之下MINA和NETTY等网络专用框架差飞了。
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/h80ttd5f(v=vs.71).aspx
: async是对asynchronous programming进一步完善，去掉CALLBACK。.NET之
: 外的开源平台像NODE之流还处在写个CALLBACK就不知天高地厚出来吹的档次
: 上。每次看PEKING2无知无畏吹NODE我就发笑。
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