b***k
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 22:58:27 2010, 美东) 提到:
I heard that they pay their entry-level trader 120k base + guaranteed 70k
quarterly bonus, which amounts to 400k for the first year. Anyone to confirm
this?
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:03:40 2010, 美东) 提到:
我解读这个东西是没几个人能呆满一年，淘汰剩下来的牛人40万对人家根本也不算什么。
confirm
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:09:46 2010, 美东) 提到:
En, probably, but the guy i know reject the offer since he think the upside
later is not good enough.
么。
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daj (肉丝炒饭--小吵肉fan) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:10:30 2010, 美东) 提到:
orz。。。。。。
upside
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:16:25 2010, 美东) 提到:
那他去哪了？
upside
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:25:18 2010, 美东) 提到:
getco or hrt
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:27:16 2010, 美东) 提到:
what is hrt?
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:28:30 2010, 美东) 提到:
hudson river trading
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daj (肉丝炒饭--小吵肉fan) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:29:43 2010, 美东) 提到:
这家好吗？
妈妈的， 以前想叫我去做 developer intern, 好像还是 unpaid, 反正没提待遇。。
。。
哭死了
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:33:08 2010, 美东) 提到:
I think by now it should be a good place, why didn't you ask about the
compenstation. It would not hurt to do so ...
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daj (肉丝炒饭--小吵肉fan) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:36:10 2010, 美东) 提到:
trader 啊 。。。。
本科毕业能做 trader 的， 呵呵， 同胞来说 很少吧
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:40:45 2010, 美东) 提到:
developer的comp也是market的2到4倍。
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:41:05 2010, 美东) 提到:
En, this is sadly the case, I don't know why they prefer to have
undergraduate as the trader, as to raw talent, I think there are many good
phd who could be at least as good, if no better. It might just be a culture
issue ...
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daj (肉丝炒饭--小吵肉fan) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:44:06 2010, 美东) 提到:
too old ....
culture
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swordmans (风云第一刀) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:44:55 2010, 美东) 提到:
这公司比不上jane street，getco吧，guaranteed 70k quarterly比较扯
confirm
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daj (肉丝炒饭--小吵肉fan) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:46:11 2010, 美东) 提到:
kao ....没开玩笑吧
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:46:57 2010, 美东) 提到:
phd还真干不好trader，不一样的mindset。存在即合理，你以为人家MD们傻呀？
culture
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:48:04 2010, 美东) 提到:
差远了。
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:48:15 2010, 美东) 提到:
So? I don't think age is necessary a problem. you can still be better at
your 30s than most undergraduates at their 20s ...
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:51:11 2010, 美东) 提到:
你看你就没干过trader，对体力精力和反应要求很高的。
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Fri Nov 12 23:57:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
maybe ...but there are still good traders coming from phd. At least from my
limited experience, I don't feel the mindset will be that diffcult to cope
with. I did convince some MD through my performance in the summer that they
should definitely consider phd when looking for traders.
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Sat Nov 13 08:56:37 2010, 美东) 提到:
that's exact what i meant, in term of response and stamina, I did better,
come on, the MD is his middle 30s and he is still doing an amazing job ...
don't understand why are you so cynical
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bluedaemon (兰魔) 于 (Sat Nov 13 13:17:19 2010, 美东) 提到:
你做过一个summer之后就洋洋得意地说自己performance如何如何，也太naive了吧。多
少trader第一年赚7位数第二年就被炒的？何况就算你适合干这行，也不代表大多数phd
都干得好。你MD干的好那是人家经验的积累，不代表精力体力上占优势，OK？
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yuestar (yuestar) 于 (Sat Nov 13 13:40:04 2010, 美东) 提到:
我的感觉,每年developer 100k- 0.25m, quant 0.25m -0.5m, trader 5m-20m, 一般干
的还比较OK的就是这个水平.trader一般是一个组的lead,很多都是20出头的小孩.
junior level一般是学习阶段,挣多少看lead 的人品.关键是给你笔钱你能不能很快挣
到钱,如果只会算算数,或者写程序,就是市场价,如果能自己赚钱,赚多少都有可能.
trader最初几年淘汰率很高,除非公司特别好愿意培养你.
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chopinor (bear) 于 (Sat Nov 13 22:37:51 2010, 美东) 提到:
take it easy .... I was just trying to say that being a phd doesn't
necessarily mean you can't be a trader. Yes, trading is brutal, but this is
for everyone ...
Also there is no need to use really low words to convey what you want to say
, this only makes people condescending talking to you.
phd
phd
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dictator (FAE) 于 (Mon Nov 15 22:35:31 2010, 美东) 提到:
70k bonus in total, 每个quarter 18k不到。200k一年，差不多这个样子
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malegebi (马勒戈壁) 于 (Tue Nov 16 00:48:23 2010, 美东) 提到:
胡说八道，你看人家加藤鹰都几岁了
人体力和精力你们哪个wsn比的上？
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MidStudent (牛牛) 于 (Tue Nov 16 10:37:50 2010, 美东) 提到:
哈哈！人家那叫天赋异禀。不光精力和体力，人家的技巧你们比的上吗？
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netabc (只卖不买) 于 (Sat Nov 27 21:30:24 2010, 美东) 提到:
Kao, 还以为是哪个NB的trader呢。 还黃金手指呢. |
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