h****9
发帖数: 42 | 1 Electrical Engineering 专业，一所不知名的小学校；
主要做模式识别方面的东西，概率论应该不是大问题；
编程用matlab。C++之前在国内的时候用，入门水平，也是几年之前的事了；
没有金融分析的背景。大概一年之后能毕业，对本行没了往日的热情，想转行金融。
现在有这样一些想法，可能略显幼稚：
1. 毕业直接找金融方面的工作。 由于缺乏相关的背景及知识，把握不大；
2. 先在本行业工作（1-2年），同时积累知识（可考虑读一个短期的金融类master），
然后跳槽。
求前辈们指教，谢谢！ |
P*****s
发帖数: 758 | |
G********d
发帖数: 10250 | 3 stay with EE please
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: Electrical Engineering 专业，一所不知名的小学校；
: 主要做模式识别方面的东西，概率论应该不是大问题；
: 编程用matlab。C++之前在国内的时候用，入门水平，也是几年之前的事了；
: 没有金融分析的背景。大概一年之后能毕业，对本行没了往日的热情，想转行金融。
: 现在有这样一些想法，可能略显幼稚：
: 1. 毕业直接找金融方面的工作。 由于缺乏相关的背景及知识，把握不大；
: 2. 先在本行业工作（1-2年），同时积累知识（可考虑读一个短期的金融类master），
: 然后跳槽。
: 求前辈们指教，谢谢！
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 4
谢谢，
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】
: Better go for a top MFE
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 5 谢谢，
我想转金融一是因为对现在的方向没太多热情了，二是因为在金融行业发展会更好些（
主要是收入，比较土，见笑了，）。当然也有转过去会更差的可能。
您能解释一下吗？ 谢谢，
【在 G********d 的大作中提到】
: stay with EE please
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l***m
发帖数: 920 | 6 are you sure EE pays less than finance?
if you have no passion for EE, could you explain what is your passion for
finance, apart from money?
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢，
: 我想转金融一是因为对现在的方向没太多热情了，二是因为在金融行业发展会更好些（
: 主要是收入，比较土，见笑了，）。当然也有转过去会更差的可能。
: 您能解释一下吗？ 谢谢，
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 7 Many thanks for your reply.
Frankly, I'm not sure whether I can get higher salary if I do become a
finance guy. As I know, some of my EE friends have a monthly salary around
8K and I doubt how much it could be as the working experience accumulates,
due to the property of the job, mostly coding/algorithms. For a finance
guy, according to the impression I got from some friends, it's quite common
to get a salary higher than 200K per year.
As for the passion, I don't have much 'passion' for finance besides the
money, since I don't really understand it that well to have some.
Another reason I choose finance is that it's not totally unrelated to my
background. Of course I have to admit that a CS job may be more appropriate
talking about background correlation.
I understand that if a person is really outstanding, money is never a
problem whatever the job is, but it's kind of expected that a common IT job
is mostly about coding/algorithm and quite limited space for promotion.
【在 l***m 的大作中提到】
: are you sure EE pays less than finance?
: if you have no passion for EE, could you explain what is your passion for
: finance, apart from money?
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l***m
发帖数: 920 | 8 200k+? promotion? not coding/algorithm? i dare to say you are totally wrong
with what you can expect from switching to (quantitative) finance.
go ask people on the street for reality, dont let impression make decision
for you.
around
common
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: Many thanks for your reply.
: Frankly, I'm not sure whether I can get higher salary if I do become a
: finance guy. As I know, some of my EE friends have a monthly salary around
: 8K and I doubt how much it could be as the working experience accumulates,
: due to the property of the job, mostly coding/algorithms. For a finance
: guy, according to the impression I got from some friends, it's quite common
: to get a salary higher than 200K per year.
: As for the passion, I don't have much 'passion' for finance besides the
: money, since I don't really understand it that well to have some.
: Another reason I choose finance is that it's not totally unrelated to my
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 9 Thanks,
I didn't mean that a finance job requires no coding or can offer many
promotion opportunities, otherwise I won't worry about the C++.
OK, for the money part, is 200K (per year) way higher than real amount?
wrong
【在 l***m 的大作中提到】
: 200k+? promotion? not coding/algorithm? i dare to say you are totally wrong
: with what you can expect from switching to (quantitative) finance.
: go ask people on the street for reality, dont let impression make decision
: for you.
:
: around
: common
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P*****s
发帖数: 758 | 10 8k per month for EE is for fresh and only the base I think.
200k per year for finance pretty much includes base + bonus I suppose, and
it is definitely on the higher end for a fresh quant.
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: Thanks,
: I didn't mean that a finance job requires no coding or can offer many
: promotion opportunities, otherwise I won't worry about the C++.
: OK, for the money part, is 200K (per year) way higher than real amount?
:
: wrong
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a**m
发帖数: 151 | 11 EE的bonus平均要低多了
【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】
: 8k per month for EE is for fresh and only the base I think.
: 200k per year for finance pretty much includes base + bonus I suppose, and
: it is definitely on the higher end for a fresh quant.
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T******H
发帖数: 629 | |
S*******w
发帖数: 24236 | 13 多挣点钱嘛
【在 T******H 的大作中提到】
: lz多大了？
: 轉金融，做什麼呢？
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 14 毕业30，惭愧，这把年纪还在折腾，
转行目的很明确，MONEY，
对金融业不是很了解，
可有什么建议？
【在 T******H 的大作中提到】
: lz多大了？
: 轉金融，做什麼呢？
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 15 对，
【在 S*******w 的大作中提到】
: 多挣点钱嘛
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f********k
发帖数: 136 | 16 先自己找几本书看看，比如Hull的，看自己感不感兴趣。
如果想多学金融基本知识，考个CFA 1级，对整体了解金融有帮助。
时间金钱允许，可以申请读个MFE。
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: 毕业30，惭愧，这把年纪还在折腾，
: 转行目的很明确，MONEY，
: 对金融业不是很了解，
: 可有什么建议？
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 17 谢谢，
您说的是精华区的这本书吗？
“Options, Futures and Other Derivatives” by John C. Hull Prentice Hall
College Div; 5th edition
amazon上有卖第7版的，哪个会更好些，还是区别不大？
【在 f********k 的大作中提到】
: 先自己找几本书看看，比如Hull的，看自己感不感兴趣。
: 如果想多学金融基本知识，考个CFA 1级，对整体了解金融有帮助。
: 时间金钱允许，可以申请读个MFE。
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f********k
发帖数: 136 | 18 大部分内容应该一样的，如果不想花钱的话，就看电子版吧。不过这书也不贵，买一本
也是不错的，abebooks.com应该可以买到国际版的，会比amazon的便宜。
Hall
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢，
: 您说的是精华区的这本书吗？
: “Options, Futures and Other Derivatives” by John C. Hull Prentice Hall
: College Div; 5th edition
: amazon上有卖第7版的，哪个会更好些，还是区别不大？
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w********n
发帖数: 59 | 19 agree
【在 G********d 的大作中提到】
: stay with EE please
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 20 thanks，
是因为需要花费很大精力而且很有可能得不到期望的回报吗？
【在 w********n 的大作中提到】
: agree
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 21 谢谢，我去找一下，
【在 f********k 的大作中提到】
: 大部分内容应该一样的，如果不想花钱的话，就看电子版吧。不过这书也不贵，买一本
: 也是不错的，abebooks.com应该可以买到国际版的，会比amazon的便宜。
:
: Hall
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 22 there is no guarantee, but the odd is good. Passion for money is a reason
good enough.
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: thanks，
: 是因为需要花费很大精力而且很有可能得不到期望的回报吗？
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V**0
发帖数: 889 | 23 I agree. Can hardly understand why people critize such motivation. Moral
standard? Would it be better that people say they are interested in computer
science but the thoughts they are actually hiding is CS is the major most
likely to secure a job with a good enough pay? Hardly to see the difference
between. Our behaviors are always mixed with different interests. Trying to
separate them out would be not pragmatic and cannot justify the long term
efforts.
【在 l*********s 的大作中提到】
: there is no guarantee, but the odd is good. Passion for money is a reason
: good enough.
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 24 Exactly, this post is not an official interview, no need pushing lz to fake
orgasms.:-)
computer
difference
to
【在 V**0 的大作中提到】
: I agree. Can hardly understand why people critize such motivation. Moral
: standard? Would it be better that people say they are interested in computer
: science but the thoughts they are actually hiding is CS is the major most
: likely to secure a job with a good enough pay? Hardly to see the difference
: between. Our behaviors are always mixed with different interests. Trying to
: separate them out would be not pragmatic and cannot justify the long term
: efforts.
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A*X
发帖数: 908 | 25 You should think like this: why an IB will hire you? or what can you bring
to an IB?
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: thanks，
: 是因为需要花费很大精力而且很有可能得不到期望的回报吗？
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l***m
发帖数: 920 | 26 you need to wonder why a bank needs to pay you 200K?
it's job market, and it's driven by supply-demand.
there is tons of people willing to work against 150K, if you can't make it,
you get laid off, the bank hires another phd.
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: Thanks,
: I didn't mean that a finance job requires no coding or can offer many
: promotion opportunities, otherwise I won't worry about the C++.
: OK, for the money part, is 200K (per year) way higher than real amount?
:
: wrong
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 27 Supply-demand stipulating salaries of 200K means one thing: ppl like lz are
in short supply.
,
【在 l***m 的大作中提到】
: you need to wonder why a bank needs to pay you 200K?
: it's job market, and it's driven by supply-demand.
: there is tons of people willing to work against 150K, if you can't make it,
: you get laid off, the bank hires another phd.
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l***m
发帖数: 920 | 28 short in supply? then try it lah.
are
【在 l*********s 的大作中提到】
: Supply-demand stipulating salaries of 200K means one thing: ppl like lz are
: in short supply.
:
: ,
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 29 Hi guys, many thanks for your kind suggestions and discussions. I
understand that the income depends more on the person himself rather than
the job, and I may have underestimated the competition in this field. I'll
think about it carefully before making the decision.
Thanks again,
BTW, are people working on the street the smartest ones? |
G********d
发帖数: 10250 | 30 这是典型卢瑟背景 以后也是卢瑟 你认命吧
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: 毕业30，惭愧，这把年纪还在折腾，
: 转行目的很明确，MONEY，
: 对金融业不是很了解，
: 可有什么建议？
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 31 Are you a musician?
【在 l***m 的大作中提到】
: short in supply? then try it lah.
:
: are
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 32 good point, is this from your own experience?
【在 G********d 的大作中提到】
: 这是典型卢瑟背景 以后也是卢瑟 你认命吧
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f********k
发帖数: 136 | 33 这个坛子里有些人就是这样的，以打击为乐，不用理会。
转行这件事，关键看自己的兴趣和恒心。还是那句话，自己先接触一下看看有没有兴趣
，有兴趣才有动力。
剩下的就是下决心了，一旦决定就不要回头，也不要管别人如何想，自己的路要自己走。
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: good point, is this from your own experience?
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e****x
发帖数: 692 | 34 我原来也是想转行，本来想读MBA，没申请到合适的。糊里糊涂读了个MFE，本来担心数
学太难，后来发觉自己挺喜欢。再后来找到工作。工资自然没办法和大牛比，但还行吧
。发觉转行这个问题问了也没有什么用，你可以1，2都做，2边都先找找。反正金融
quant也要懂计算机，一样准备。如果读MFE就要想清楚风险了，将来是有可能薪水高，
但是也可能找不到合适的工作。找工作真的是depends的事情。每个人都不一样。 |
m*********g
发帖数: 646 | 35 1st, C++ is extremely important, even for non-developer roles.
2nd, The market is not like before anymore, for EE phd from a non-Ivy
school it is getting more and more difficult to land on something good.
3rd, reading books by your own won't help you too much, ppl are looking for
something that "demonstrable" from your resume
4th, if you decided to go for a MFE, only top MFE programs can help you in
this market.
5th, you could also go to an IT company to become a proficient programmer in
C++/java or etc al, some recruiter may come back to you in the future,
mostly for positions in hedge fund of algo trading firms.
And most importantly, I encourage you to pursue want you REALLY want, go for
it and be prepared. |
h****9
发帖数: 42 | 36 Thanks!
【在 e****x 的大作中提到】
: 我原来也是想转行，本来想读MBA，没申请到合适的。糊里糊涂读了个MFE，本来担心数
: 学太难，后来发觉自己挺喜欢。再后来找到工作。工资自然没办法和大牛比，但还行吧
: 。发觉转行这个问题问了也没有什么用，你可以1，2都做，2边都先找找。反正金融
: quant也要懂计算机，一样准备。如果读MFE就要想清楚风险了，将来是有可能薪水高，
: 但是也可能找不到合适的工作。找工作真的是depends的事情。每个人都不一样。
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h****9
发帖数: 42 | 37 Thanks!
for
in
【在 m*********g 的大作中提到】
: 1st, C++ is extremely important, even for non-developer roles.
: 2nd, The market is not like before anymore, for EE phd from a non-Ivy
: school it is getting more and more difficult to land on something good.
: 3rd, reading books by your own won't help you too much, ppl are looking for
: something that "demonstrable" from your resume
: 4th, if you decided to go for a MFE, only top MFE programs can help you in
: this market.
: 5th, you could also go to an IT company to become a proficient programmer in
: C++/java or etc al, some recruiter may come back to you in the future,
: mostly for positions in hedge fund of algo trading firms.
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p*****w
发帖数: 82 | 38 不要以为做金融就能赚大钱。做金融，钱不见赚更多，你失业的机会大很多。THINK
TWICE. |
h****9
发帖数: 42 | 39 谢谢提醒，
【在 p*****w 的大作中提到】
: 不要以为做金融就能赚大钱。做金融，钱不见赚更多，你失业的机会大很多。THINK
: TWICE.
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h*****i
发帖数: 1017 | |
