a****i
发帖数: 108 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: akamai (abc), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 需要提供过去几年的薪水和奖金么？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 10 11:09:44 2011, 美东)
正面试一个公司，居然通过猎头要提供过去三年的工资和奖金历史，是不是有点太多了
？过去几年工资和奖金的比例变化非常大，当然总收入基本差不多。难道都要告诉他们
不成？是不是会被take advantage? 我还是希望能涨些工资的。多谢任何建议。 | h****e
发帖数: 2125 | 2 its normal, sometimes they ask for copies of ur old W2s to verify ur pay
history...
【在 a****i 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
: 发信人: akamai (abc), 信区: JobHunting
: 标 题: 需要提供过去几年的薪水和奖金么？
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 10 11:09:44 2011, 美东)
: 正面试一个公司，居然通过猎头要提供过去三年的工资和奖金历史，是不是有点太多了
: ？过去几年工资和奖金的比例变化非常大，当然总收入基本差不多。难道都要告诉他们
: 不成？是不是会被take advantage? 我还是希望能涨些工资的。多谢任何建议。
| t********a
发帖数: 810 | 3 扯蛋, its absolutely not normal, 有木有!!!!!
给offer开始上班了才要看w2, 有木有!!!!
给offer的时候会问你以前三年的pay history, 有木有!!!
开始conversation的时候屌都不要屌猎头, 他猎头就很拽啊!!!! 最多告诉他一个大概
的范围, 比如high 300's, 懂不懂!!!!!
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: its normal, sometimes they ask for copies of ur old W2s to verify ur pay
: history...
| a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 4 你这不难为人家么
【在 t********a 的大作中提到】
: 扯蛋, its absolutely not normal, 有木有!!!!!
: 给offer开始上班了才要看w2, 有木有!!!!
: 给offer的时候会问你以前三年的pay history, 有木有!!!
: 开始conversation的时候屌都不要屌猎头, 他猎头就很拽啊!!!! 最多告诉他一个大概
: 的范围, 比如high 300's, 懂不懂!!!!!
| k*****a
发帖数: 7389 | 5 井底之蛙又在盲人摸象了。
很多大公司比如AIG, 二房之类的，以前经常要求新员工verify以前的收入
【在 t********a 的大作中提到】
: 扯蛋, its absolutely not normal, 有木有!!!!!
: 给offer开始上班了才要看w2, 有木有!!!!
: 给offer的时候会问你以前三年的pay history, 有木有!!!
: 开始conversation的时候屌都不要屌猎头, 他猎头就很拽啊!!!! 最多告诉他一个大概
: 的范围, 比如high 300's, 懂不懂!!!!!
| t********a
发帖数: 810 | 6 一看就没认真读题, 有木有!!!!
我说你开始上班成人家新员工的时候再提供verification, 有木有, 有木有!!!
没成为新员工之前你伤不起啊伤不起!!!! 没必要给人看你W2的有木有!!!
学生就是学生, 没拿过offer别虾说.
猎头算个鸟啊, 对你太pushy就让他一边凉快去, 有木有!!!
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: 井底之蛙又在盲人摸象了。
: 很多大公司比如AIG, 二房之类的，以前经常要求新员工verify以前的收入
| h****e
发帖数: 2125 | 7 what if u lied about ur pay history? even if they fired u on ur first day
they'd still waste their time, money and other candidates!
【在 t********a 的大作中提到】
: 一看就没认真读题, 有木有!!!!
: 我说你开始上班成人家新员工的时候再提供verification, 有木有, 有木有!!!
: 没成为新员工之前你伤不起啊伤不起!!!! 没必要给人看你W2的有木有!!!
: 学生就是学生, 没拿过offer别虾说.
: 猎头算个鸟啊, 对你太pushy就让他一边凉快去, 有木有!!!
| p*****y
发帖数: 529 | 8 Man, all companies start background checking after your 1st day in the
company.
Why!!!why!!!why!!!
靠，咆哮体就这么流行?
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: what if u lied about ur pay history? even if they fired u on ur first day
: they'd still waste their time, money and other candidates!
| h****e
发帖数: 2125 | 9 this is bullshit, most companies do background check after u accept their
offer but before u start.
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】
: Man, all companies start background checking after your 1st day in the
: company.
: Why!!!why!!!why!!!
: 靠，咆哮体就这么流行?
| p*****y
发帖数: 529 | 10 Shit, my lovely HR guy asked proof for my previous job four month after my
starting.
The even more lovely HR guy in my prev company asked my prev prev company's
pay stub 3 month after starting.
Btw: both my current, prev and prev prev jobs were at tier-one IB. I guess either they are not qualified as "companies"
or
the HR guys are just so so big bull~~~~shits!!!! 是不是！！！是不是！！！ | | | t********a
发帖数: 810 | 11 童鞋们, 不要吵啦, 所谓查过去收入根本就是大便. 一个candidate值几斤几两大家心
里都有数. 就算candidate把过去的收入夸大一点也不是什么大不了的事.
所谓income verification唯一有用的时候是when u want to fire somebody... 所以
hiring manager巴不得new hire lies about past income... 小辫子揪在手里,
hiring manager不要太爽!!!!! 有木有!!!!
s
guess either they are not qualified as "companies"
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】
: Shit, my lovely HR guy asked proof for my previous job four month after my
: starting.
: The even more lovely HR guy in my prev company asked my prev prev company's
: pay stub 3 month after starting.
: Btw: both my current, prev and prev prev jobs were at tier-one IB. I guess either they are not qualified as "companies"
: or
: the HR guys are just so so big bull~~~~shits!!!! 是不是！！！是不是！！！
| t********a
发帖数: 810 | 12 不带这么BSO自己在both tier one IBs干过.
s
guess either they are not qualified as "companies"
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】
: Shit, my lovely HR guy asked proof for my previous job four month after my
: starting.
: The even more lovely HR guy in my prev company asked my prev prev company's
: pay stub 3 month after starting.
: Btw: both my current, prev and prev prev jobs were at tier-one IB. I guess either they are not qualified as "companies"
: or
: the HR guys are just so so big bull~~~~shits!!!! 是不是！！！是不是！！！
| p*****y
发帖数: 529 | 13 我就知道有人这么说。
I'm not proud of the jobs I did so it's not BSO at least from my perspective.
As to the income verification, I think it does matter because your current
level is highly correlated to your old level. So how do I feel if I can pay
much cheaper and feel being cheated, you just can't tell the consequence. If
you end up being fired, it's not the end of the world, but you still lost
the time, opportunity and you' ll find hard to explain that to your new
employer.
So I think it's better not to cheat unless the incentive is big. I know
people cheat on 5k base and i'd just say they are crazy. | t********a
发帖数: 810 | 14 打回去重写, 没看两句就一堆语法错误...
"proud of the jobs I did" --> 应该是"proud of my achievements"
"your current level is highly correlated to" --> should be "correlated with"
现在的孩子怎么过个语言关都那么困难捏
perspective.
pay
If
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我就知道有人这么说。
: I'm not proud of the jobs I did so it's not BSO at least from my perspective.
: As to the income verification, I think it does matter because your current
: level is highly correlated to your old level. So how do I feel if I can pay
: much cheaper and feel being cheated, you just can't tell the consequence. If
: you end up being fired, it's not the end of the world, but you still lost
: the time, opportunity and you' ll find hard to explain that to your new
: employer.
: So I think it's better not to cheat unless the incentive is big. I know
: people cheat on 5k base and i'd just say they are crazy.
| p*****y
发帖数: 529 | 15 看来你是吃饱了 (and me too).
with"
【在 t********a 的大作中提到】
: 打回去重写, 没看两句就一堆语法错误...
: "proud of the jobs I did" --> 应该是"proud of my achievements"
: "your current level is highly correlated to" --> should be "correlated with"
: 现在的孩子怎么过个语言关都那么困难捏
:
: perspective.
: pay
: If
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