b****n
发帖数: 3 | 1 I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
years.
We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
but not much on business aspect of trading.
Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
put in.
We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
profit ratio should we charge? |
y**********0
发帖数: 521 | 2 As your ID, baiwen. Nobody can answer that. How do we know you are not ponzi scheme? This trick is widely used at Zhejiang province for private lending. 6% monthly return is guaranteed, so 100% return every year. You should go there to ask. The quants here either have no money, or are very conservative.
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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b****n
发帖数: 3 | 3 You are right. It is knowledge that make you secure. If there is simple
product selling for $1 in Canada and is being sold for $10 in US, people
will flock to it. Everyone know buying low and selling high
But if you explain your strategies, options, hedging, delta neutral and etc.
they do not understand it so they do not feel safe even if the records show
consistent high return....
With all legal process, due-diligence and all in place, people, especially
Chinese still do not believe it. But once a while they fly to Las Vegas to
gamble their money...
ponzi scheme? This trick is widely used at Zhejiang province for private
lending. 6% monthly return is guaranteed, so 100% return every year. You
should go there to ask. The quants here either have no money, or are very
conservative.
【在 y**********0 的大作中提到】
: As your ID, baiwen. Nobody can answer that. How do we know you are not ponzi scheme? This trick is widely used at Zhejiang province for private lending. 6% monthly return is guaranteed, so 100% return every year. You should go there to ask. The quants here either have no money, or are very conservative.
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | |
N******r
发帖数: 642 | 5 get a pb and have an audited track record... |
n*******1
发帖数: 50 | 6 Depends on Your Credibility.
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 7 你真要每年能double
随便借点钱给自己搞搞都行了
2^10=1024
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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a***r
发帖数: 594 | 8 and he s been trading for "almost 20 years", which would have turned 1000
dollars to over a billion.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 你真要每年能double
: 随便借点钱给自己搞搞都行了
: 2^10=1024
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r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 9 这个是违反 finance fundamental theory 的，搞不好是要杀头的。
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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s**w
发帖数: 499 | 10 Buffett 开始做的时候也没几个人相信啊。
他是从亲友筹钱开始的。
开始筹钱是到处求人。
后来成绩好了，是到处有人来求他管钱。
从几个最相信你的人开始筹钱。成绩好自然会慢慢传开。
也可以试试在网上提前公布你的操作，进出点。然后把网站到处宣传。 |
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s**w
发帖数: 499 | 11 你这个假设不对。
他可能做了很长时间，最近才发现最好的方法。
【在 a***r 的大作中提到】
: and he s been trading for "almost 20 years", which would have turned 1000
: dollars to over a billion.
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S*********g
发帖数: 5298 | 12 没有track record，那就是扯淡
【在 s**w 的大作中提到】
: 你这个假设不对。
: 他可能做了很长时间，最近才发现最好的方法。
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V********n
发帖数: 3061 | 13 人家宣称已经做了20年了，不是刚开始做的。
“accumulate strategies over years,” lol
【在 s**w 的大作中提到】
: Buffett 开始做的时候也没几个人相信啊。
: 他是从亲友筹钱开始的。
: 开始筹钱是到处求人。
: 后来成绩好了，是到处有人来求他管钱。
: 从几个最相信你的人开始筹钱。成绩好自然会慢慢传开。
: 也可以试试在网上提前公布你的操作，进出点。然后把网站到处宣传。
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h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 14 怎么这么多自称自己有绝好的Strategy 却没有钱的人呢？
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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h*******7
发帖数: 1481 | 15 你的意思是说他前面19年都在亏钱，去年突然一下100% Return？
【在 s**w 的大作中提到】
: 你这个假设不对。
: 他可能做了很长时间，最近才发现最好的方法。
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S*******s
发帖数: 13043 | 16 找我吧。我的系统应该还不只翻番，每个月只收$79
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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n****e
发帖数: 2401 | 17 如果你能，我愿意。
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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w******i
发帖数: 503 | 18 desperation...
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 现在骗子都上这儿来了？
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L*********Z
发帖数: 52 | 19 MITBBS也是各种欢乐啊。。
你欢乐得过sheldon么。。
估计最后还是sheldon的那句bazinga~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skQGve3XksU
各种欢乐啊，哈哈哈 |
s**w
发帖数: 499 | 20 这个问题有那么多种可能。就是最纸上谈兵的人也能设计出几百种可能。
你一定要假定一种最极端的可能。
比如说一个股票20年升了$200.
前面一个就认定它每年升$10，并基于这个假设进一步推理。
我说不一定。它可能前些年很长时间都跌，最后才升了很多。
好了，你现在又说那么就是前面19年都跌，最后一年突然升很多？
你自己想象一下一个股票20年升$200可以有多少种方式？
【在 h*******7 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是说他前面19年都在亏钱，去年突然一下100% Return？
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s**w
发帖数: 499 | 21 人家已经说了有track record。
“But no one seems to believe us even if we open our book sent
directly from brokerage and clearing house to show them each and every trade
we did. ”
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Quant/31317689.html
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】
: 没有track record，那就是扯淡
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L*********Z
发帖数: 52 | |
L*********Z
发帖数: 52 | 23
每天看见人buffett，gates的真无语。。
问问，你爹能在你小时候带你进GS的trading floor玩?
【在 s**w 的大作中提到】
: Buffett 开始做的时候也没几个人相信啊。
: 他是从亲友筹钱开始的。
: 开始筹钱是到处求人。
: 后来成绩好了，是到处有人来求他管钱。
: 从几个最相信你的人开始筹钱。成绩好自然会慢慢传开。
: 也可以试试在网上提前公布你的操作，进出点。然后把网站到处宣传。
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s**w
发帖数: 499 | 24 buffett与trading floor有什么关系？
He knows nothing about trading.
注意我的话的内涵。我发觉这里发言的几个人完全不能把握别人话的含义。随意曲解，
发挥别人话的内涵。如果我提到梨子，请不要发挥成水果。
如果我提到buffett，请不要曲解成我说这里有任何人可能成为buffett。
我也没有意思说lz的track record就是可信。
我只是指出有些人质疑别人的方式不成立。
【在 L*********Z 的大作中提到】
:
: 每天看见人buffett，gates的真无语。。
: 问问，你爹能在你小时候带你进GS的trading floor玩?
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T****i
发帖数: 15191 | 25 没有低风险高回报的投资。你还是别来这里骗穷人的几个小钱了。
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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s******r
发帖数: 324 | 26 低风险高回报有是有的,不过那些有这种策略的人一般不缺钱,或者很快就不缺钱了. |
V********n
发帖数: 3061 | 27 有时候觉得很奇怪：这种帖子可以放在这里给人讨论，另外一个网友几次发探讨HFT的
帖子却都被删掉，不知道这里的版主是怎么想的？ |
L*********Z
发帖数: 52 | 28 这你自己去找联系，我懒得说
外加这种贴很无聊，欢乐下还是可以的，我也不多说了
【在 s**w 的大作中提到】
: buffett与trading floor有什么关系？
: He knows nothing about trading.
: 注意我的话的内涵。我发觉这里发言的几个人完全不能把握别人话的含义。随意曲解，
: 发挥别人话的内涵。如果我提到梨子，请不要发挥成水果。
: 如果我提到buffett，请不要曲解成我说这里有任何人可能成为buffett。
: 我也没有意思说lz的track record就是可信。
: 我只是指出有些人质疑别人的方式不成立。
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j******3
发帖数: 18319 | 29 straightforward, 2&20.
If you are interested, please PM me your bio and track record.
Thank you, look forward to hearing from you.
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【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: I have been trading various financial instruments like equities, options and
: futures and etc at Chicago and international markets(forex) for almost 20
: years.
: We are considering to form trading firm or funds based overseas, probably in
: Hong Kong. We know how to trade. We have accumulate strategies over years,
: but not much on business aspect of trading.
: Our trading records have given the confidence in doubling every dollar we
: put in.
: We wonder if we double every dollar people put in within a year, how much of
: profit ratio should we charge?
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