k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 1 太搞了。这几个人注册了一个假宗教组织,借飞天拉面神教之名,申请加入同志游行。
没被发现,成功混入。在游行中也穿奇装异服,配合别人合影拍照,看上去全无破绽。
散发反同劝教传单,包装成套套的模样散发。
不得不说,挺有创意的。哈哈。
你觉得他们应该被驱逐出同志游行吗?我觉得他们这样走游行我不反对。
http://dailyxtra.com/vancouver/news/anti-gay-activist-slips-pri
Bill Whatcott distributes leaflets under ‘Flying Spaghetti’ group at
Vancouver parade
With his revealing shorts, bright pink hair and a shirt that read “The
Flying Spaghetti Monster Is Gay,” anti-gay activist Bill Whatcott
successfully slipped into Vancouver’s Pride parade on Aug 3.
Whatcott and four of his conservative evangelical Christian supporters
marched in the parade under the banner of the fictitious Calgary Church of
the Flying Spaghetti Monster to distribute anti-gay leaflets disguised as
condoms.
“I want homosexuals to turn to Jesus and I believe that people can leave
that lifestyle behind,” Whatcott says. “I made this Pride parade way more
diverse. It’s not all leather men and naked dudes. Now it includes
Christian people with diverse messages on homosexuality. True diversity.”
In the “gospel condom” that he distributed to parade-goers, Whatcott
claims that everyone is “anatomically heterosexual” and that gay people “
suffer grievously because of their sin.”
“In spite of billions of dollars being spent fighting sexually transmitted
diseases ravaging the homosexual subculture, homosexuals are still suffering
and dying from AIDS and other homosexually acquired diseases,” writes
Whatcott, who believes that Jesus Christ can free gay people from the “
bondage of homosexuality or any other sexual addiction.”
But rather than openly protest homosexuality at the parade, Whatcott and his
party deliberately posed as gay and gay-friendly participants and invented
a fake ministry under whose name they applied to participate. Whatcott
signed the parade application using a pseudonym, Matthew Davidson.
“They pulled a very well-orchestrated con, and that’s how I look at it in
my books,” says Vancouver Pride Society (VPS) general manager Ray Lam. “
They were very friendly people and hugged parade marshals and volunteers and
seemed very excited to be there posing for pictures with people along the
way. On the surface, if you didn’t see the package or associate the package
with this entry, you wouldn’t be able to identify which organization did
it just by how they were acting in the parade.”
Whatcott tells Xtra that he and several volunteers across Canada spent a
year preparing for the operation. In total, he says, it cost more than $4,
000 to pay for gas, gospel condom production, the banner and T-shirts.
“A number of Christians across the country donated small amounts of money,
” he says. “Even though I live well below the poverty line and I got court
judgments up my yin yang unpaid, I am still willing to use some of my money
for this. I chipped in about $1,000 of my own money.”
In 2013 the Supreme Court of Canada upheld part of a 2005 Saskatchewan Human
Rights Tribunal ruling against Whatcott for distributing anti-gay flyers.
The high court unanimously ruled that two of the four flyers that Whatcott
published and distributed violated the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code by
promoting hatred and discrimination against gays and lesbians.
Lam says the VPS was taken completely off guard because a legitimate branch
of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a parody religion that
opposes the teaching of intelligent design and creationism in public schools
, had participated in the parade in previous years.
“When the application came in, a lot of our team members were excited
because we were familiar with the organization,” Lam says. “They have a
reputation for being fun and animated, and we were very excited to have them
— and then this happened.”
Whatcott set up a fake phone number and website to support his ruse.
Lam says all parade applicants undergo a very rigorous screening process to
determine whether they’re legitimate organizations that support the LGBT
community.
“It’s a bit difficult to prevent something like this when people go to
such elaborate lengths to hide their identity,” he says. “There was
nothing we, as organizers, could do to catch them, other than contacting
head office asking if they had a Calgary section. But this isn’t something
someone would reasonably do when you receive an application with a website,
phone number and credentials that don’t raise any red flags.”
Whatcott says that his participation in the parade was part of a larger
battle and that deception was necessary to get his message across. “The
Supreme Court found me guilty of hate speech and I have been breaking that
ruling ever since, and this is part of it,” he explains. “I’m still out
there. I’m loud and not ashamed of my moral and theological protest. This
is spiritual warfare. This is a war against the Supreme Court of Canada and
the homosexual agenda. Using deception to get there is okay as long as it’s
not malicious.”
Whatcott has previously participated in Pride marches in Alberta and
Saskatchewan without hiding his identity but says that his presence at these
events was not always welcomed by parade participants.
“Vancouver Pride loved me 100 percent, and it was positive from beginning
to end,” he says. “I really liked all the hugs and the hands reaching out
to get my gospel condoms. I really liked getting thumbs-up from traffic cops
, and I liked the transvestites and lesbians reading my ditty about the
Flying Spaghetti Monster. They had no idea that it was written by Bill
Whatcott!”
Lam says the VPS is considering its options. “Right now we’re talking to
affected parties, like actual Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, to see
what we can do in this situation,” he says. “It’s very complicated
because it appears that this individual does not care about the law. That’s
what makes it so difficult. If they don’t care about the law and legal
process, then what do we have as a mechanism to hold them accountable for
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 2 Flying Spaghetti?
Are they nuts or what! |
m******1 发帖数: 19713 | 3 不理解有人会如此passionate地致力于打压别人卧室里的事。就像常在本版被封的某人
,真是passionate和persistent !
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 太搞了。这几个人注册了一个假宗教组织,借飞天拉面神教之名,申请加入同志游行。 : 没被发现,成功混入。在游行中也穿奇装异服,配合别人合影拍照,看上去全无破绽。 : 散发反同劝教传单,包装成套套的模样散发。 : 不得不说,挺有创意的。哈哈。 : 你觉得他们应该被驱逐出同志游行吗?我觉得他们这样走游行我不反对。 : http://dailyxtra.com/vancouver/news/anti-gay-activist-slips-pri : Bill Whatcott distributes leaflets under ‘Flying Spaghetti’ group at : Vancouver parade : With his revealing shorts, bright pink hair and a shirt that read “The : Flying Spaghetti Monster Is Gay,” anti-gay activist Bill Whatcott
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j****l 发帖数: 3356 | 4 人家没进入同的卧室里打压同吧?
是同把卧室里的事跑到大街上说的吧?那有反对意见也正常啊。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】 : 不理解有人会如此passionate地致力于打压别人卧室里的事。就像常在本版被封的某人 : ,真是passionate和persistent !
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 5 请问怎么叫把卧室的事情跑大街上说?没人在大街上做爱吧。
请问你和你爱人公开举行婚礼,是不是属于把卧室里的事情跑大街上说?
那么我是不是也有理由反对你的婚礼,立法禁止你的婚礼?
反同人士真能够双重标准的!
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】 : 人家没进入同的卧室里打压同吧? : 是同把卧室里的事跑到大街上说的吧?那有反对意见也正常啊。
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j****l 发帖数: 3356 | 6 类比要恰当。
在大街上说说卧室的事情就等于在大街上做做卧室的事情?
婚礼还真是可以反对的,不过只能personal反对,没听说可以立法反对。人家反同是立
法反对吗?
顺便说下,就算某个反同人士双重标准,你也不能说反同人士双重标准。就如我只能评
价某个同同的类比水平真差,不能说同同的类比水平真差一样。
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 请问怎么叫把卧室的事情跑大街上说?没人在大街上做爱吧。 : 请问你和你爱人公开举行婚礼,是不是属于把卧室里的事情跑大街上说? : 那么我是不是也有理由反对你的婚礼,立法禁止你的婚礼? : 反同人士真能够双重标准的!
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 7 反同怎么就不是立法反对?
各州修宪加入禁止同婚的禁令,联邦通过DOMA也是立法禁止同婚。
这些法律现在才在一步一步地取消,拨乱反正。
你要没听说,可以google,可以虚心求教,
不要这么大剌剌地反问说“反同是立法反对吗?”,只会显得无知。
自己异性恋的事情满大街说,结婚戒指戴在手上,老婆孩子的照片摆在办公室,
夫妻上街手牵着手,结个婚请帖发到满世界,有个狂欢节什么比基尼爆乳都穿着游行,
在电视上拥抱接吻。这都是异性恋常做的事情,也没见一个反同人士出来反对。
同性恋只不过游个行,结个婚,电视上亲一下自己的情侣,反同人士就友邦惊诧,出来
反对了。
要是真只有一个两个反同人士这么虚伪,双重标准,那还真没人care,我才懒得去理。
问题是,只要是个反同人士,就必然做以上事情。
没见到一个反同人士不这么虚伪,没见过一个反同贴子不是双重标准的。
当然就可以推广到一般情况。
举一个反对同志把卧室的事情公开化的反同人士的经典虚伪反应,
欢迎各大反同人士对号入座。
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】 : 类比要恰当。 : 在大街上说说卧室的事情就等于在大街上做做卧室的事情? : 婚礼还真是可以反对的,不过只能personal反对,没听说可以立法反对。人家反同是立 : 法反对吗? : 顺便说下,就算某个反同人士双重标准,你也不能说反同人士双重标准。就如我只能评 : 价某个同同的类比水平真差,不能说同同的类比水平真差一样。
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j****l 发帖数: 3356 | 8 别扯这么远,我上次问的:在大街上说说卧室的事情就等于在大街上做做卧室的事情?
你先明确下是不是你犯错了?还是凡是我质疑,你回避就算你错了?
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 反同怎么就不是立法反对? : 各州修宪加入禁止同婚的禁令,联邦通过DOMA也是立法禁止同婚。 : 这些法律现在才在一步一步地取消,拨乱反正。 : 你要没听说,可以google,可以虚心求教, : 不要这么大剌剌地反问说“反同是立法反对吗?”,只会显得无知。 : 自己异性恋的事情满大街说,结婚戒指戴在手上,老婆孩子的照片摆在办公室, : 夫妻上街手牵着手,结个婚请帖发到满世界,有个狂欢节什么比基尼爆乳都穿着游行, : 在电视上拥抱接吻。这都是异性恋常做的事情,也没见一个反同人士出来反对。 : 同性恋只不过游个行,结个婚,电视上亲一下自己的情侣,反同人士就友邦惊诧,出来 : 反对了。
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 9 哈哈,揪着个鸡毛当令箭。你自己阅读理解有问题
仔细再看看我的原帖。
“请问怎么叫把卧室的事情跑大街上说?没人在大街上做爱吧。
请问你和你爱人公开举行婚礼,是不是属于把卧室里的事情跑大街上说?
那么我是不是也有理由反对你的婚礼,立法禁止你的婚礼?”
我说的是“没人在大街上做爱”,这怎么是类比?说的是极端情况不存在。
那在这个极端情况以下的范围内,什么情况才算是“把卧室的事情到大街上说”?
接下来的才是类比,异性恋公开举行婚礼,类比“把卧室的事情到大街上说”。
这个同性恋和异性恋类比有错吗?一点错都没有。
我知道你自知理亏了,只好避重就轻,找这种跟论点完全无关的细枝末节说事
要是还说不过,下次还可以纠结一下错别字。
如果错别字没找到,还可以纠结一下标点符号。
哈,这种争论法你觉得有面子?
我不回避你的问题,你敢正面回答我的问题吗?3个问题
1、请问异性恋有没有把卧室的事情到大街上说?
2、如果1的回答是有,反同人士是否反对异性恋把卧室的事情到大街上说?
3、如果2的回答是不反对,请问反同人士是否是双重标准?
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】 : 别扯这么远,我上次问的:在大街上说说卧室的事情就等于在大街上做做卧室的事情? : 你先明确下是不是你犯错了?还是凡是我质疑,你回避就算你错了?
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 10 喂喂,Jolly1哪里去了,人呢?尿遁了?
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 哈哈,揪着个鸡毛当令箭。你自己阅读理解有问题 : 仔细再看看我的原帖。 : “请问怎么叫把卧室的事情跑大街上说?没人在大街上做爱吧。 : 请问你和你爱人公开举行婚礼,是不是属于把卧室里的事情跑大街上说? : 那么我是不是也有理由反对你的婚礼,立法禁止你的婚礼?” : 我说的是“没人在大街上做爱”,这怎么是类比?说的是极端情况不存在。 : 那在这个极端情况以下的范围内,什么情况才算是“把卧室的事情到大街上说”? : 接下来的才是类比,异性恋公开举行婚礼,类比“把卧室的事情到大街上说”。 : 这个同性恋和异性恋类比有错吗?一点错都没有。 : 我知道你自知理亏了,只好避重就轻,找这种跟论点完全无关的细枝末节说事
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j****l 发帖数: 3356 | 11 你明明前句是反问,后句是反问的理由,现在居然说后句是前句的极端情况?
极端情况不存在可不能做为一般情况不存在的论据。
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 哈哈,揪着个鸡毛当令箭。你自己阅读理解有问题 : 仔细再看看我的原帖。 : “请问怎么叫把卧室的事情跑大街上说?没人在大街上做爱吧。 : 请问你和你爱人公开举行婚礼,是不是属于把卧室里的事情跑大街上说? : 那么我是不是也有理由反对你的婚礼,立法禁止你的婚礼?” : 我说的是“没人在大街上做爱”,这怎么是类比?说的是极端情况不存在。 : 那在这个极端情况以下的范围内,什么情况才算是“把卧室的事情到大街上说”? : 接下来的才是类比,异性恋公开举行婚礼,类比“把卧室的事情到大街上说”。 : 这个同性恋和异性恋类比有错吗?一点错都没有。 : 我知道你自知理亏了,只好避重就轻,找这种跟论点完全无关的细枝末节说事
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 12 谁告诉你我说极端情况不存在是一般情况不存在的论据了?
前句不是反问,是疑问,请你定义一下怎么叫“把卧室的事情到大街上说”。
并且用这种定义,对比一下异性恋有没有做类似的事情。
这下看明白了吧。
我问你的三个问题呢?别以为你可以逃得掉。不敢回答就是默认了。
1、请问异性恋有没有把卧室的事情到大街上说?
2、如果1的回答是有,反同人士是否反对异性恋把卧室的事情到大街上说?
3、如果2的回答是不反对,请问反同人士是否是双重标准?
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】 : 你明明前句是反问,后句是反问的理由,现在居然说后句是前句的极端情况? : 极端情况不存在可不能做为一般情况不存在的论据。
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k*****e 发帖数: 22013 | 13 对双重标准的反同人士,比如jolly1,就是要揪着打,打到他原形毕露为止。
1、请问异性恋有没有把卧室的事情到大街上说?
2、如果1的回答是有,反同人士是否反对异性恋把卧室的事情到大街上说?
3、如果2的回答是不反对,请问反同人士是否是双重标准?
【在 j****l 的大作中提到】 : 人家没进入同的卧室里打压同吧? : 是同把卧室里的事跑到大街上说的吧?那有反对意见也正常啊。
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 14 2 thumbs up!
You are hitting the **** out of this jolly1.
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】 : 对双重标准的反同人士,比如jolly1,就是要揪着打,打到他原形毕露为止。 : 1、请问异性恋有没有把卧室的事情到大街上说? : 2、如果1的回答是有,反同人士是否反对异性恋把卧室的事情到大街上说? : 3、如果2的回答是不反对,请问反同人士是否是双重标准?
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 15 haha, job well done.
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D**S 发帖数: 24887 | 16 你这反同(不好意思,拼音输入险些变成"饭桶")大妈高兴得哪门子劲儿呢? 不是天生就
等于可以改变? 逻体教?
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】 : haha, job well done. : 不是已经说了gay不是天生的吗? 那就可以改变啊.
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