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a*********h
发帖数: 306
1
We often hear the following complaint “It is strange. I used to be good at
sports and he used to be poor at sports, but now he is even better than me
in long run”.
First, I assume that “good at sports” in above complaint means you are
good at some popular items ranging from 100M, 400M, long jump, high jump to
basket ball, volley ball and soccer EXCEPT long run (any distance longer
than 3000M).
Almost all these events prefer height and muscle. If you happen to possess
these hardware conditions, y
o*******r
发帖数: 4921
2
showoff以前体育好。
l***h
发帖数: 9308
3
“体育不好”,主要还是认为考核成绩吧。球类项目计入考核吗?
印象中主要就是100,400,1500,立定/跳远,跳高,引体向上,俯卧撑,仰卧起坐,
双杠,游泳,铅球。
弱项就是短跑和球类。
10个月减肥30磅以后,有提高,但程度远不如“大学体育成绩不理想者”。

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【在 a*********h 的大作中提到】
: We often hear the following complaint “It is strange. I used to be good at
: sports and he used to be poor at sports, but now he is even better than me
: in long run”.
: First, I assume that “good at sports” in above complaint means you are
: good at some popular items ranging from 100M, 400M, long jump, high jump to
: basket ball, volley ball and soccer EXCEPT long run (any distance longer
: than 3000M).
: Almost all these events prefer height and muscle. If you happen to possess
: these hardware conditions, y

e*e
发帖数: 6808
4
奔个照片
看看到底是不是muscle的问题
我反正没muscle。所以你的理论对我不成立
我最胡掰的借口是,鉴于我家除了我没人体育及格,甚至我本人小学也是体育不及格的
,现在才是真实的我,teen时期是短暂的基因突变。

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coaches
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【在 a*********h 的大作中提到】
: We often hear the following complaint “It is strange. I used to be good at
: sports and he used to be poor at sports, but now he is even better than me
: in long run”.
: First, I assume that “good at sports” in above complaint means you are
: good at some popular items ranging from 100M, 400M, long jump, high jump to
: basket ball, volley ball and soccer EXCEPT long run (any distance longer
: than 3000M).
: Almost all these events prefer height and muscle. If you happen to possess
: these hardware conditions, y

t***o
发帖数: 888
5
反对标题党~~~标题是中文,内容居然全是字母...

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【在 a*********h 的大作中提到】
: We often hear the following complaint “It is strange. I used to be good at
: sports and he used to be poor at sports, but now he is even better than me
: in long run”.
: First, I assume that “good at sports” in above complaint means you are
: good at some popular items ranging from 100M, 400M, long jump, high jump to
: basket ball, volley ball and soccer EXCEPT long run (any distance longer
: than 3000M).
: Almost all these events prefer height and muscle. If you happen to possess
: these hardware conditions, y

a*********h
发帖数: 306
6
My sports life is a total positive split:
I did compete in professional level at elementary school.
I could only compete in amateur level at high school and college
And now, I am there, competing with many 65 years old and 10 years old in a
5k race.
So please don't think high of me.

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 奔个照片
: 看看到底是不是muscle的问题
: 我反正没muscle。所以你的理论对我不成立
: 我最胡掰的借口是,鉴于我家除了我没人体育及格,甚至我本人小学也是体育不及格的
: ,现在才是真实的我,teen时期是短暂的基因突变。
:
: at
: to
: coaches
: be

l***h
发帖数: 9308
7
赞出生后基因还能突变!
父母都是球类运动校队的,轮到我这里,只能混在班级下游。
基因突变很强大

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 奔个照片
: 看看到底是不是muscle的问题
: 我反正没muscle。所以你的理论对我不成立
: 我最胡掰的借口是,鉴于我家除了我没人体育及格,甚至我本人小学也是体育不及格的
: ,现在才是真实的我,teen时期是短暂的基因突变。
:
: at
: to
: coaches
: be

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
8
pat pat
我妈是练体操的。我从小到大都不能劈叉。现在连腿抬高90度就很难。
RP被上一代人用光了。

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 赞出生后基因还能突变!
: 父母都是球类运动校队的,轮到我这里,只能混在班级下游。
: 基因突变很强大

e*e
发帖数: 6808
9
lol
是不是你妈妈练,知道苦,有意不让你练习劈叉啊?

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: pat pat
: 我妈是练体操的。我从小到大都不能劈叉。现在连腿抬高90度就很难。
: RP被上一代人用光了。

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
10
劈叉不是吧。
老狼应该知道。练体操都是4,5岁就开始了,估计这辈子她就没有不能劈叉的时候。

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: lol
: 是不是你妈妈练,知道苦,有意不让你练习劈叉啊?

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l***h
发帖数: 9308
11
劈叉不难啊,放到单杠上抻一抻就行了,我小时候还能劈

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: pat pat
: 我妈是练体操的。我从小到大都不能劈叉。现在连腿抬高90度就很难。
: RP被上一代人用光了。

y******n
发帖数: 4527
12
showoff韧带抗抻啊。
我从小到大就怕压腿下腰的,就是受不了那个疼,从来就没劈成过。
现在发现,慢跑的几迈之后,再压腿就好多了,进展明显。原来之前的拉伸都没预热啊。

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 劈叉不难啊,放到单杠上抻一抻就行了,我小时候还能劈
l***h
发帖数: 9308
13
小时候腿都能抻吧,没下过药

啊。

【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: showoff韧带抗抻啊。
: 我从小到大就怕压腿下腰的,就是受不了那个疼,从来就没劈成过。
: 现在发现,慢跑的几迈之后,再压腿就好多了,进展明显。原来之前的拉伸都没预热啊。

w****1
发帖数: 4931
14
Muscle and strength can be easily built up. Explosive power and
endurance are harder to build. But power and endurance are indeed very
different things. The kind of athletic ability required for a 100m dash
and a 6-hour bike ride are completely different. Some people are
talented in endurance sports, and this talent would not be discovered at
a very young age. Take Pen for example. We were high school classmates,
and I think it's fair to say that nobody in our class, absolutely no
one, would hav

【在 a*********h 的大作中提到】
: We often hear the following complaint “It is strange. I used to be good at
: sports and he used to be poor at sports, but now he is even better than me
: in long run”.
: First, I assume that “good at sports” in above complaint means you are
: good at some popular items ranging from 100M, 400M, long jump, high jump to
: basket ball, volley ball and soccer EXCEPT long run (any distance longer
: than 3000M).
: Almost all these events prefer height and muscle. If you happen to possess
: these hardware conditions, y

m**k
发帖数: 18660
15
Pen is amazing. she is so different. talented. period :)

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Muscle and strength can be easily built up. Explosive power and
: endurance are harder to build. But power and endurance are indeed very
: different things. The kind of athletic ability required for a 100m dash
: and a 6-hour bike ride are completely different. Some people are
: talented in endurance sports, and this talent would not be discovered at
: a very young age. Take Pen for example. We were high school classmates,
: and I think it's fair to say that nobody in our class, absolutely no
: one, would hav

l***h
发帖数: 9308
16
这个说法看上去更靠谱。
这样的话,以前“体育”好不好,跟5K、半马、全马这种距离没太大相关性

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Muscle and strength can be easily built up. Explosive power and
: endurance are harder to build. But power and endurance are indeed very
: different things. The kind of athletic ability required for a 100m dash
: and a 6-hour bike ride are completely different. Some people are
: talented in endurance sports, and this talent would not be discovered at
: a very young age. Take Pen for example. We were high school classmates,
: and I think it's fair to say that nobody in our class, absolutely no
: one, would hav

m**k
发帖数: 18660
17
en.
其实是这样的。
以前体育好的。很多也没有现在这么高的mileage训练啊。
(除非是大雄那种专业的.hoho)
很多1K可以跑满分的就是本身跑的快,平时喜欢跑的。也不用认真训练啊.hehe
当然。以前体育好。很多至少不over-weight.至少没有很多身体上的问题。
hehe.还是有优势啊

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 这个说法看上去更靠谱。
: 这样的话,以前“体育”好不好,跟5K、半马、全马这种距离没太大相关性

j*********g
发帖数: 3826
18
如果以前体育好的跟我们用同样的训练量,那得出多少飞毛腿啊?

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: en.
: 其实是这样的。
: 以前体育好的。很多也没有现在这么高的mileage训练啊。
: (除非是大雄那种专业的.hoho)
: 很多1K可以跑满分的就是本身跑的快,平时喜欢跑的。也不用认真训练啊.hehe
: 当然。以前体育好。很多至少不over-weight.至少没有很多身体上的问题。
: hehe.还是有优势啊

w****1
发帖数: 4931
19
They already do. Look around at the sub 2:55 marathoners. I'm sure most
of them were on track or cross country teams in high school. But the
natural sprinters won't necessarily perform well at long distance even
with high mileage training. Some NFL wide receivers ran marathons after
they retire, and they perform consistently worse than some of the fitter
hollywood stars.:)

【在 j*********g 的大作中提到】
: 如果以前体育好的跟我们用同样的训练量,那得出多少飞毛腿啊?
m**k
发帖数: 18660
20
很多marathoner还是要30左右才peak? 而不是20左右?

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: They already do. Look around at the sub 2:55 marathoners. I'm sure most
: of them were on track or cross country teams in high school. But the
: natural sprinters won't necessarily perform well at long distance even
: with high mileage training. Some NFL wide receivers ran marathons after
: they retire, and they perform consistently worse than some of the fitter
: hollywood stars.:)

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j*********g
发帖数: 3826
21
receiver都是搞玩命冲锋的,他们的训练方法不合马拉松吧?
再说退休的时候一身都是伤,又很多钱,谁还愿意受这个罪去认真练马拉松呢?

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: They already do. Look around at the sub 2:55 marathoners. I'm sure most
: of them were on track or cross country teams in high school. But the
: natural sprinters won't necessarily perform well at long distance even
: with high mileage training. Some NFL wide receivers ran marathons after
: they retire, and they perform consistently worse than some of the fitter
: hollywood stars.:)

l***h
发帖数: 9308
22
就是,所以我在“以前体育”加引号,那个语境下实际上是排出5K以上距离跑步这种运
动。
这个问题基本上就释然了。以后对“底子薄”的BSO,抵抗力增强不少。

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: en.
: 其实是这样的。
: 以前体育好的。很多也没有现在这么高的mileage训练啊。
: (除非是大雄那种专业的.hoho)
: 很多1K可以跑满分的就是本身跑的快,平时喜欢跑的。也不用认真训练啊.hehe
: 当然。以前体育好。很多至少不over-weight.至少没有很多身体上的问题。
: hehe.还是有优势啊

w****1
发帖数: 4931
23
Well, if you speak of being tough, the pro football players are some of
the toughest, both physically and mentally. I thought you'd understand
well that rich people are more interested in running the marathon than
poor people. When you already have the money, you want to have what
money can't buy. Billionaires are often into hardcore mountaineering,
often risking their lives, for example.

【在 j*********g 的大作中提到】
: receiver都是搞玩命冲锋的,他们的训练方法不合马拉松吧?
: 再说退休的时候一身都是伤,又很多钱,谁还愿意受这个罪去认真练马拉松呢?

j*********g
发帖数: 3826
24
我感觉白人更符合你说的这样,黑人很多都非常懒,浪费自己的天赋,比方卖地?

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Well, if you speak of being tough, the pro football players are some of
: the toughest, both physically and mentally. I thought you'd understand
: well that rich people are more interested in running the marathon than
: poor people. When you already have the money, you want to have what
: money can't buy. Billionaires are often into hardcore mountaineering,
: often risking their lives, for example.

w********6
发帖数: 12977
25
你开玩笑,他们的训练量非常大。
我大学下午经常去操场边上玩单双杠,和田径队的几个成了好朋友。
其中一个河南省马拉松冠军,经常下午跑一万米(我当时不懂,以为一万米就是训练跑
步的极限了,所以到底是不是只有一万米我也不知道),我好玩,有几次跟上去跑,发
现我跟不上半圈!
他们早上练,下午也练,晚上还练,运动量很大的。

【在 j*********g 的大作中提到】
: 如果以前体育好的跟我们用同样的训练量,那得出多少飞毛腿啊?
w********6
发帖数: 12977
26
职业football几乎都吃药,否则没办法坚持下来,我看过一个自传里面说的。
j*********g
发帖数: 3826
27
你误会了,我说以前体育好的,现在跟我们一个训练量.
这些人抱怨其实只是因为他们放不下架子使劲练,现在跑不过我们了,只好whining两下.

【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 你开玩笑,他们的训练量非常大。
: 我大学下午经常去操场边上玩单双杠,和田径队的几个成了好朋友。
: 其中一个河南省马拉松冠军,经常下午跑一万米(我当时不懂,以为一万米就是训练跑
: 步的极限了,所以到底是不是只有一万米我也不知道),我好玩,有几次跟上去跑,发
: 现我跟不上半圈!
: 他们早上练,下午也练,晚上还练,运动量很大的。

e*e
发帖数: 6808
28
看着有道理
高中版里搞100M+三级跳的一个男生,800M跑不过女生的说

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Muscle and strength can be easily built up. Explosive power and
: endurance are harder to build. But power and endurance are indeed very
: different things. The kind of athletic ability required for a 100m dash
: and a 6-hour bike ride are completely different. Some people are
: talented in endurance sports, and this talent would not be discovered at
: a very young age. Take Pen for example. We were high school classmates,
: and I think it's fair to say that nobody in our class, absolutely no
: one, would hav

y******n
发帖数: 4527
29
That girl must be talented.
I do not think most girls can run faster in 800 m than that boy you are
talking about.

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 看着有道理
: 高中版里搞100M+三级跳的一个男生,800M跑不过女生的说

e*e
发帖数: 6808
30
这个孩子开始太着急,跑太快了
400m之后速度降得不像话
完全在跳跃中(估计是在腾空的片刻感觉比较放松)跳完了后400m
呵呵

【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: That girl must be talented.
: I do not think most girls can run faster in 800 m than that boy you are
: talking about.

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w*******e
发帖数: 285
31
我以前认识一个跑400米的师兄,他跑5000米很容易就sub 20分钟,尤其是最后400米的
冲刺,太impressive了,可以狂超无数人,最后19分40左右跑完。

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 这个孩子开始太着急,跑太快了
: 400m之后速度降得不像话
: 完全在跳跃中(估计是在腾空的片刻感觉比较放松)跳完了后400m
: 呵呵

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