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Running版 - 一双跑鞋跑多少迈该退休了?
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s******e
发帖数: 648
1
我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
l**n
发帖数: 2405
2
I think weight is also a factor ba.
the heavier the runner is, the less milliage can be put on shoes.
just my two cents.
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
3
usually 500

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
: 。

s******e
发帖数: 648
4
好吧,看来本来想找个借口买双新鞋现在是觉得有点guilty了。 you guys should
have just told me i should change my shoes now...lol
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
5
买呗,不就差100迈吗,个把月的事情

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 好吧,看来本来想找个借口买双新鞋现在是觉得有点guilty了。 you guys should
: have just told me i should change my shoes now...lol

s******e
发帖数: 648
6
差200迈...我的鞋子现在才300迈出头,就是想找个借口买双漂亮点的。
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
7
那也就两三个月的事

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 差200迈...我的鞋子现在才300迈出头,就是想找个借口买双漂亮点的。
w****1
发帖数: 4931
8
my two pairs of cumulus 11 have logged more than 1400 miles together so far.
I've finally decided to change them because the rubber on the outside edge
of the bottom of my left shoes are gone.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
: 。

s******e
发帖数: 648
9
那你不怕这样的话鞋子失去弹性会对你的膝盖缓冲不够然后造成损伤吗?

far.
edge

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: my two pairs of cumulus 11 have logged more than 1400 miles together so far.
: I've finally decided to change them because the rubber on the outside edge
: of the bottom of my left shoes are gone.

w****1
发帖数: 4931
10
Nope. I'm a forefoot striker and I don't have to worry about my knees at all.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 那你不怕这样的话鞋子失去弹性会对你的膝盖缓冲不够然后造成损伤吗?
:
: far.
: edge

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f*******e
发帖数: 4531
11
有人说在同一时刻只能keep一双跑鞋吗?there are tons of excuse to buy a new
pair of snikers.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 差200迈...我的鞋子现在才300迈出头,就是想找个借口买双漂亮点的。
s******e
发帖数: 648
12
我这不是勤俭节制吗?话说到这个月12号我就记满一个月的帐了。

【在 f*******e 的大作中提到】
: 有人说在同一时刻只能keep一双跑鞋吗?there are tons of excuse to buy a new
: pair of snikers.

l***h
发帖数: 9308
13
刚发现我的Mizuno wave rider 12也700迈了,前面磨损不算太狠,后脚跟外侧磨损最
厉害,不过黑橡胶还没磨光,好像还能坚持个把月,6c/Mi,值了

far.
edge

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: my two pairs of cumulus 11 have logged more than 1400 miles together so far.
: I've finally decided to change them because the rubber on the outside edge
: of the bottom of my left shoes are gone.

l*********n
发帖数: 831
14
记得是500麦一换
这个钱还是不要省,不然真受伤了花的钱和付出的代价可是跑鞋的好几倍。我以前穿的
跑鞋不好,后脚跟疼,买了双好的跑鞋,疼痛消失得无影无踪,真是差别很大。
s******e
发帖数: 648
15
那你能不能推荐下什么是好的跑鞋?我自己做的网上的research说的是ascis,但是穿
了也没觉得有多好啊。

【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 记得是500麦一换
: 这个钱还是不要省,不然真受伤了花的钱和付出的代价可是跑鞋的好几倍。我以前穿的
: 跑鞋不好,后脚跟疼,买了双好的跑鞋,疼痛消失得无影无踪,真是差别很大。

l*********n
发帖数: 831
16
这个我没经验。我是去店里买的,有专业的sales看你跑步姿势,分析你的跑姿然后给
你选鞋。
真的是有很大区别,好跑鞋绝对事半功倍,减少伤害。

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 那你能不能推荐下什么是好的跑鞋?我自己做的网上的research说的是ascis,但是穿
: 了也没觉得有多好啊。

w****1
发帖数: 4931
17
asics makes all kinds of running shoes, for different people with different
needs. one person's medicine can be another person's poison.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 那你能不能推荐下什么是好的跑鞋?我自己做的网上的research说的是ascis,但是穿
: 了也没觉得有多好啊。

w****1
发帖数: 4931
18
We've discussed this many times before. DO NOT trust the advice of running
shoe sales person. Just because they sell shoes doesn't mean that they give
the right advice.

【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个我没经验。我是去店里买的,有专业的sales看你跑步姿势,分析你的跑姿然后给
: 你选鞋。
: 真的是有很大区别,好跑鞋绝对事半功倍,减少伤害。

s******e
发帖数: 648
19
可以说说是什么店吗?去过一个专门卖运动鞋子的店,似乎也没见那个店员主动offer
说要看我跑步的姿势啊。

【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个我没经验。我是去店里买的,有专业的sales看你跑步姿势,分析你的跑姿然后给
: 你选鞋。
: 真的是有很大区别,好跑鞋绝对事半功倍,减少伤害。

l*********n
发帖数: 831
20
我去的店叫phidippidi,是jeff galloway的店。
这个店只在atlanta有。
你好好看看你附近的体育店
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y******n
发帖数: 4527
21
My first pair of running shoes is going to 500 miles and is still good.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
: 。

y******n
发帖数: 4527
22
get two pairs of shoes and rotate them. Both will last longer.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我这不是勤俭节制吗?话说到这个月12号我就记满一个月的帐了。
l***h
发帖数: 9308
23
这个说法的对象,是base比较高的人?如果每周不到30迈,没必要2双鞋轮着来吧

【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: get two pairs of shoes and rotate them. Both will last longer.
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
24
我在办公室放一双家里放一双,不用带来带去

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 这个说法的对象,是base比较高的人?如果每周不到30迈,没必要2双鞋轮着来吧
R*****s
发帖数: 41236
25
我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我在办公室放一双家里放一双,不用带来带去
l***h
发帖数: 9308
26
大红灯笼高高挂?

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。
e******h
发帖数: 128
27
可以在加两双,一周每天都不重复~

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。
s******e
发帖数: 648
28
woa, 我们隔得貌似不远呀。什么时候去偷窥一下,呵呵。

【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 我去的店叫phidippidi,是jeff galloway的店。
: 这个店只在atlanta有。
: 你好好看看你附近的体育店

l*********n
发帖数: 831
29
哈哈,笑死了.你联想真丰富

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 大红灯笼高高挂?
l**n
发帖数: 2405
30
Orz

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236
31
以后准备每周休2天, 嘿嘿~

【在 e******h 的大作中提到】
: 可以在加两双,一周每天都不重复~
p***r
发帖数: 4859
32
翻牌子

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 大红灯笼高高挂?
y******n
发帖数: 4527
33
鞋也需要休息透气的,即使迈数低,轮流穿也可以减少味道,如果有的话。

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: 这个说法的对象,是base比较高的人?如果每周不到30迈,没必要2双鞋轮着来吧
y******n
发帖数: 4527
34
你应该搞7双,每天翻牌子

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。
e*e
发帖数: 6808
35
被你一说,我又疑神疑鬼是不是该换鞋了

【在 l*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个我没经验。我是去店里买的,有专业的sales看你跑步姿势,分析你的跑姿然后给
: 你选鞋。
: 真的是有很大区别,好跑鞋绝对事半功倍,减少伤害。

l*********n
发帖数: 831
36
我目前有两双跑鞋,一个好的一个差些。好的只在长跑时候用,差的短跑用。
w****1
发帖数: 4931
37
Now I have 9 pairs of running shoes: 3 x cumulus, nimbus, wave precision,
wave universe, speedstar, adidas trail, vibram classic. :D

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我家门口放了5双, 每天看哪个顺眼穿哪双。。。
s******e
发帖数: 648
38
你说的这些我好多我都没有听说过,哎,估计是太孤陋寡闻了。
我也想开始囤鞋子了。不知道要是买个那个五个脚趾头的鞋子实用不实用。
昨天跑步回来发现左脚的脚掌前面被磨出来两个水泡。 以前都是大脚趾的内侧磨泡的
。这个是不是证明我的下脚姿势变好了?

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Now I have 9 pairs of running shoes: 3 x cumulus, nimbus, wave precision,
: wave universe, speedstar, adidas trail, vibram classic. :D

j**f
发帖数: 7403
39
借帖子问问:我的跑鞋底下的黑色掉了很大一部分,都露出内部的白色了。
是不是该扔了?觉得还能穿的鞋,扔了,好可惜啊。。。

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
: 。

s******e
发帖数: 648
40
我不知道哎。我刚才跑去翻看了一下我的鞋子,底部好像还是新的一样,一点都没有磨
损。已经320多迈了。不知道这样的话是不是可以延长一点它的在役时间?

【在 j**f 的大作中提到】
: 借帖子问问:我的跑鞋底下的黑色掉了很大一部分,都露出内部的白色了。
: 是不是该扔了?觉得还能穿的鞋,扔了,好可惜啊。。。

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BEN - my running shoes发现一双新的骚鞋
想买下面的东西,想听听建议?鞋子反思,考虑进一双Newton Gravity
进入Running版参与讨论
w*******s
发帖数: 980
41
Listen to your body.别迷信那些专业店。去年我认识的几个到专业店Jack Rabbit买
鞋的,无论燕瘦环肥,一律被推荐2140。今年大概改推荐2150了。

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 被你一说,我又疑神疑鬼是不是该换鞋了
w****1
发帖数: 4931
42
I've always been saying this: the worst thing that has ever happened to my
running is asics stability shoes
(which were recommended to me by "marathon sports" shoe store in 2004), and
the best thing that has ever
happened to my running was a severe ankle sprain that forced me to stop
running for three months. How
ironic.:)

【在 w*******s 的大作中提到】
: Listen to your body.别迷信那些专业店。去年我认识的几个到专业店Jack Rabbit买
: 鞋的,无论燕瘦环肥,一律被推荐2140。今年大概改推荐2150了。

j**f
发帖数: 7403
43
啊?
asics stability shoe不好么? 正打算买呢!
那买啥啊? 脚有点儿外翻(就是鞋底外侧磨损稍微多一些)。
足弓中等,不低,可能偏高的足弓。

and

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I've always been saying this: the worst thing that has ever happened to my
: running is asics stability shoes
: (which were recommended to me by "marathon sports" shoe store in 2004), and
: the best thing that has ever
: happened to my running was a severe ankle sprain that forced me to stop
: running for three months. How
: ironic.:)

f*******n
发帖数: 5241
44
我去这里的跑鞋店,店主给我推荐的是Asics Foundation,说是2140还不够。我嫌那鞋
太笨重,还是买了2140和Kayano。但是跑起来以后,也不知是心理因素还是什么,觉得
还不如我那廉价的旧Avia的neutral鞋舒服。旧鞋磨得后跟都歪了,最终还是为马拉松又
买了双Cumulus。
我跑得少,这些鞋够穿十年八年的了。:)

【在 w*******s 的大作中提到】
: Listen to your body.别迷信那些专业店。去年我认识的几个到专业店Jack Rabbit买
: 鞋的,无论燕瘦环肥,一律被推荐2140。今年大概改推荐2150了。

w****1
发帖数: 4931
45
What most people don't realize is that, instead of trying to find shoes that
make your feet comfortable, you
need to consider making your own feet stronger and improve your running form
instead. Too much support
makes your feet weak and more injury prone. I'd say go with neutral shoes.
You are supposed to land on the
outside edge of your feet. You are fine.

【在 j**f 的大作中提到】
: 啊?
: asics stability shoe不好么? 正打算买呢!
: 那买啥啊? 脚有点儿外翻(就是鞋底外侧磨损稍微多一些)。
: 足弓中等,不低,可能偏高的足弓。
:
: and

m**k
发帖数: 18660
46
我还穿过motion control的呢。hehe..2140相对已经好多了 :)

that
form

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: What most people don't realize is that, instead of trying to find shoes that
: make your feet comfortable, you
: need to consider making your own feet stronger and improve your running form
: instead. Too much support
: makes your feet weak and more injury prone. I'd say go with neutral shoes.
: You are supposed to land on the
: outside edge of your feet. You are fine.

s******e
发帖数: 648
47
这么说我的姿势恰恰是最坏的一种了。我磨脚起水泡的地方都是脚的内侧,比如大脚趾
和内前脚掌什么的。

that
form

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: What most people don't realize is that, instead of trying to find shoes that
: make your feet comfortable, you
: need to consider making your own feet stronger and improve your running form
: instead. Too much support
: makes your feet weak and more injury prone. I'd say go with neutral shoes.
: You are supposed to land on the
: outside edge of your feet. You are fine.

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
48
what did the asics stability shoes do to you? what's your pronation? I have
tried 2150 and they seem to provide a lot of stability, enough for me even
if I am a severe overpronator.

and

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I've always been saying this: the worst thing that has ever happened to my
: running is asics stability shoes
: (which were recommended to me by "marathon sports" shoe store in 2004), and
: the best thing that has ever
: happened to my running was a severe ankle sprain that forced me to stop
: running for three months. How
: ironic.:)

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
49
看来你over的也很厉害啊。foundation太重了,me not like

松又

【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】
: 我去这里的跑鞋店,店主给我推荐的是Asics Foundation,说是2140还不够。我嫌那鞋
: 太笨重,还是买了2140和Kayano。但是跑起来以后,也不知是心理因素还是什么,觉得
: 还不如我那廉价的旧Avia的neutral鞋舒服。旧鞋磨得后跟都歪了,最终还是为马拉松又
: 买了双Cumulus。
: 我跑得少,这些鞋够穿十年八年的了。:)

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
50
我穿过一双brooks beast。现在有一双BN 1011,太笨重了,很不舒服。现在穿的最多
的是mizuno的alchemy,很轻,cushion也不错,也有足够的support。还有一双brooks
addiction,我嫌cushion稍微差一些

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 我还穿过motion control的呢。hehe..2140相对已经好多了 :)
:
: that
: form

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求推荐跑鞋-基本平足不平足的同学穿stability的鞋是不是脚底足弓会痛?
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Stability Shoes是不是牺牲了CUSION?平足,刚穿了stability control的鞋跑反而不舒服,正常么?
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m**k
发帖数: 18660
51
addiction 比GTS重不少。
GTS其实比2140还硬一点。
2140我觉得已经够中庸了。王欢喜可能没穿过brooks?

brooks

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 我穿过一双brooks beast。现在有一双BN 1011,太笨重了,很不舒服。现在穿的最多
: 的是mizuno的alchemy,很轻,cushion也不错,也有足够的support。还有一双brooks
: addiction,我嫌cushion稍微差一些

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
52
目前我穿过的motion control里面还是Mizuno Alchemy舒服,非常轻,感觉比GTS还轻
。我现在这双已经超期服役至少200迈了,还舍不得扔

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: addiction 比GTS重不少。
: GTS其实比2140还硬一点。
: 2140我觉得已经够中庸了。王欢喜可能没穿过brooks?
:
: brooks

m**k
发帖数: 18660
53
日系的鞋子相对都偏软,轻的感觉。因为亚洲体重轻?

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 目前我穿过的motion control里面还是Mizuno Alchemy舒服,非常轻,感觉比GTS还轻
: 。我现在这双已经超期服役至少200迈了,还舍不得扔

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
54
mizuno好像比asics还软。我的体重一点也不轻,但是也没嫌太软。

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 日系的鞋子相对都偏软,轻的感觉。因为亚洲体重轻?
l***h
发帖数: 9308
55
mizuno跟asics相比,一是肥,二是后跟低

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: mizuno好像比asics还软。我的体重一点也不轻,但是也没嫌太软。
l**n
发帖数: 2405
56
Ouch, 昨天刚刚买了asics GEL-1150

【在 j**f 的大作中提到】
: 啊?
: asics stability shoe不好么? 正打算买呢!
: 那买啥啊? 脚有点儿外翻(就是鞋底外侧磨损稍微多一些)。
: 足弓中等,不低,可能偏高的足弓。
:
: and

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
57
每个人的脚不一样的, 我还是觉得按脚型分类是正确的,
对于体重大的人来说, stability的鞋更合适。。。
好比五指鞋也不能穿着乱跑一样, 轻薄的鞋也不是每个人
都能穿的。 不可能一口吃成个胖子, 人脚也不可能几天
变成野兽脚。。。
w*******s
发帖数: 980
58
似乎是这样的。我的Mizuno Wave Nexus 就是D (Mizuno很少有wide的)。如果是Asics
,我要穿2E。

【在 l***h 的大作中提到】
: mizuno跟asics相比,一是肥,二是后跟低
w****1
发帖数: 4931
59
of course if you change to a completely new type of running shoes, you'd have to take it easy at the beginning
of the transition, run lower mileage and gradually increase, like everything else in running. the author of Born
to Run used to weigh 230 lb and injures himself from running just 3 miles a day, no matter what shoes he
wear. He later became an ultramarathoner running injury free by, as you know, barefoot training and wearing
five fingers. If you have always been wearing cushioned shoes and go straight to barefoot with the same kind
of mileage, that is a stress fracture waiting to happen. Most beginning runners have poor running form, and
cushion running shoes make them think that their form is okay, and only by the time they get injured they'd
start to wonder what went wrong. If you go with lighter shoes, you'd know what's wrong right away and make
adjustments. You can do forefoot strike in stability shoes, good for you. Most people abuse heel strike and
overstride in stability shoes, and that's the problem. It's better to build up mileage with the correct form than
trying to correct things after running for years with a bad form.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 每个人的脚不一样的, 我还是觉得按脚型分类是正确的,
: 对于体重大的人来说, stability的鞋更合适。。。
: 好比五指鞋也不能穿着乱跑一样, 轻薄的鞋也不是每个人
: 都能穿的。 不可能一口吃成个胖子, 人脚也不可能几天
: 变成野兽脚。。。

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
60
我个人觉得跑姿和鞋子没有太大关系, 我不管什么鞋都
可以前脚掌着地跑, 但是我是平脚, 穿neutral鞋对我
的脚弓压力很大。 穿stability鞋对我是安全的做法。
实际上, 不管穿什么鞋跑, 如果不注意跑姿都容易受伤,
鞋子的影响并没有那么的大, 我刚开始跑步的时候穿个
已经破了的nike, 也还好。 后来穿K14, 上了
mileage以后受的伤, 我相信, 我即使穿别的鞋子, 都
会是一样的结果。
调整跑姿和鞋子并没有直接关联, 我的意见。

have to take it easy at the beginning
everything else in running. the author of Born
a day, no matter what shoes he
know, barefoot training and wearing
straight to barefoot with the same kind
runners have poor running form, and
the time they get injured they'd
what's wrong right away and make
Most people abuse heel strike and
build up mileage with the correct form than

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: of course if you change to a completely new type of running shoes, you'd have to take it easy at the beginning
: of the transition, run lower mileage and gradually increase, like everything else in running. the author of Born
: to Run used to weigh 230 lb and injures himself from running just 3 miles a day, no matter what shoes he
: wear. He later became an ultramarathoner running injury free by, as you know, barefoot training and wearing
: five fingers. If you have always been wearing cushioned shoes and go straight to barefoot with the same kind
: of mileage, that is a stress fracture waiting to happen. Most beginning runners have poor running form, and
: cushion running shoes make them think that their form is okay, and only by the time they get injured they'd
: start to wonder what went wrong. If you go with lighter shoes, you'd know what's wrong right away and make
: adjustments. You can do forefoot strike in stability shoes, good for you. Most people abuse heel strike and
: overstride in stability shoes, and that's the problem. It's better to build up mileage with the correct form than

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w****1
发帖数: 4931
61
The feet can be strengthened. When I first attempted the transition to wave
creation and forefoot strike last
fall, my feet hurt from running just 6 miles. A few months later, my feet
are strengthened and no longer get
sore. Overly cushioned running shoes does not give you the opportunity to
strengthen your feet. Surely one
can adjust his running form in any shoes, but most people don't realize they
need to adjust their form to begin
with. They feel like they are running like a deer until they see in videos
they run like frankenstein (I've been one of these people). If you run in
five fingers, there is no option for bad form. Heel strike would pound your
feet so much that you won't even
think about doing it in five fingers.
Also, the problem with asics 21X0 series is that the heel is too thick for forefoot strike. Forefoot strike does
not require tiptoeing. If you run barefoot (or in flats), forefoot strike is very natural. In asics 21X0, it is very
awkward. My feeling is that asics 21X0 forces you to land on the inside edge of your heels, which is the
worst possible way to land. I don't know if it's just me, but I also find it awkward to do midfoot strike (on
the outside edge) in 21X0.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我个人觉得跑姿和鞋子没有太大关系, 我不管什么鞋都
: 可以前脚掌着地跑, 但是我是平脚, 穿neutral鞋对我
: 的脚弓压力很大。 穿stability鞋对我是安全的做法。
: 实际上, 不管穿什么鞋跑, 如果不注意跑姿都容易受伤,
: 鞋子的影响并没有那么的大, 我刚开始跑步的时候穿个
: 已经破了的nike, 也还好。 后来穿K14, 上了
: mileage以后受的伤, 我相信, 我即使穿别的鞋子, 都
: 会是一样的结果。
: 调整跑姿和鞋子并没有直接关联, 我的意见。
:

m**k
发帖数: 18660
62
有些人 不想花时间练 脚筋连小腿,就买高跟鞋超个shortcut.

wave
they

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: The feet can be strengthened. When I first attempted the transition to wave
: creation and forefoot strike last
: fall, my feet hurt from running just 6 miles. A few months later, my feet
: are strengthened and no longer get
: sore. Overly cushioned running shoes does not give you the opportunity to
: strengthen your feet. Surely one
: can adjust his running form in any shoes, but most people don't realize they
: need to adjust their form to begin
: with. They feel like they are running like a deer until they see in videos
: they run like frankenstein (I've been one of these people). If you run in

w****1
发帖数: 4931
63
That was my attitude before bay state marathon last fall. After that I was
fed up with all the injuries and that's
when I decided to work on my forefoot strike.

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 有些人 不想花时间练 脚筋连小腿,就买高跟鞋超个shortcut.
:
: wave
: they

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
64
这个话题说了太多次了, 我无意多说, 我知道你的意思,
我也坚持我的观点。 不管什么鞋子,哪怕Kayano, 如果
跑姿不好, 也会造成膝盖受伤。 练习跑姿, 不一定非要
上五指, 光脚跑, 正常跑鞋也能纠正, 我就是这么做的。
新手, 我还是推荐用正常跑鞋, 慢慢让你的腿部肌肉长大,
让你的脚来适应。
just made my point, end of discussion.

wave
they

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: The feet can be strengthened. When I first attempted the transition to wave
: creation and forefoot strike last
: fall, my feet hurt from running just 6 miles. A few months later, my feet
: are strengthened and no longer get
: sore. Overly cushioned running shoes does not give you the opportunity to
: strengthen your feet. Surely one
: can adjust his running form in any shoes, but most people don't realize they
: need to adjust their form to begin
: with. They feel like they are running like a deer until they see in videos
: they run like frankenstein (I've been one of these people). If you run in

l**n
发帖数: 2405
65
火药味道好浓呀,嘿嘿。

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 这个话题说了太多次了, 我无意多说, 我知道你的意思,
: 我也坚持我的观点。 不管什么鞋子,哪怕Kayano, 如果
: 跑姿不好, 也会造成膝盖受伤。 练习跑姿, 不一定非要
: 上五指, 光脚跑, 正常跑鞋也能纠正, 我就是这么做的。
: 新手, 我还是推荐用正常跑鞋, 慢慢让你的腿部肌肉长大,
: 让你的脚来适应。
: just made my point, end of discussion.
:
: wave
: they

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
66
长跑需要的是耐心, 哪怕是对你自己的脚和身体, 没有任何shortcut...

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: 有些人 不想花时间练 脚筋连小腿,就买高跟鞋超个shortcut.
:
: wave
: they

w****1
发帖数: 4931
67
barefoot and five fingers are of course the extreme example. but neutral
running shoes are "normal shoes". I
would say stability shoes are not normal shoes. most of the time I wear
cushioned neutral shoes in training,
but once in a while I will go in flats to strengthen my feet. It's the same
reason why many runners do dynamic
drills and weight training to strengthen their legs, in addition to just
running.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 这个话题说了太多次了, 我无意多说, 我知道你的意思,
: 我也坚持我的观点。 不管什么鞋子,哪怕Kayano, 如果
: 跑姿不好, 也会造成膝盖受伤。 练习跑姿, 不一定非要
: 上五指, 光脚跑, 正常跑鞋也能纠正, 我就是这么做的。
: 新手, 我还是推荐用正常跑鞋, 慢慢让你的腿部肌肉长大,
: 让你的脚来适应。
: just made my point, end of discussion.
:
: wave
: they

e*e
发帖数: 6808
68
2140太硬了

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: addiction 比GTS重不少。
: GTS其实比2140还硬一点。
: 2140我觉得已经够中庸了。王欢喜可能没穿过brooks?
:
: brooks

c*******r
发帖数: 13580
69
你太轻了

【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 2140太硬了
R*****s
发帖数: 41236
70
我现在5双现役跑鞋, 2双stability, 2双neutral, 1双SS,
轮穿, 就是在让脚慢慢适应, 给它足够的时间。
我同样也作力量练习,我知道我的腿部肌肉耐力还远远不够。

same

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: barefoot and five fingers are of course the extreme example. but neutral
: running shoes are "normal shoes". I
: would say stability shoes are not normal shoes. most of the time I wear
: cushioned neutral shoes in training,
: but once in a while I will go in flats to strengthen my feet. It's the same
: reason why many runners do dynamic
: drills and weight training to strengthen their legs, in addition to just
: running.

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w****1
发帖数: 4931
71
That sounds pretty good. Are you mostly doing forefoot, midfoot, or heel
strike?

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我现在5双现役跑鞋, 2双stability, 2双neutral, 1双SS,
: 轮穿, 就是在让脚慢慢适应, 给它足够的时间。
: 我同样也作力量练习,我知道我的腿部肌肉耐力还远远不够。
:
: same

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
72
去店里试穿一下新的同款跑鞋,如果感觉到明显区别,就该换了.
同样的鞋,穿在BMI18 和BMI28的人脚上,寿命是不一样的.
我的mizuno wave rider,250迈的时候就明显感觉midfoot弹性不够了.我是midfoot
landing.

【在 s******e 的大作中提到】
: 我记得是400还是300?最近有没有跑鞋的deal啊?估计该买鞋子了。这次买个好看点的
: 。

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
73
我现在基本上是forefoot landing...也正是因为如此, 我的脚弓
才会感到压力。。。
不过我的手伤脚伤应该都是玩器械的时候玩伤的。。。

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: That sounds pretty good. Are you mostly doing forefoot, midfoot, or heel
: strike?

w****1
发帖数: 4931
74
How did you manage to hurt your hand and feet with weights?

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我现在基本上是forefoot landing...也正是因为如此, 我的脚弓
: 才会感到压力。。。
: 不过我的手伤脚伤应该都是玩器械的时候玩伤的。。。

w****1
发帖数: 4931
75
I thought you were a forefoot striker?

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 去店里试穿一下新的同款跑鞋,如果感觉到明显区别,就该换了.
: 同样的鞋,穿在BMI18 和BMI28的人脚上,寿命是不一样的.
: 我的mizuno wave rider,250迈的时候就明显感觉midfoot弹性不够了.我是midfoot
: landing.

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
76
右手腕:哑铃练二头肌伤的
右脚弓:器械练小腿肌伤的

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: How did you manage to hurt your hand and feet with weights?
w****1
发帖数: 4931
77
I rarely use dumbbells heavier than 15 lb any more. Normally body weight
exercises would suffice for distance
runners.

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 右手腕:哑铃练二头肌伤的
: 右脚弓:器械练小腿肌伤的

D*****t
发帖数: 558
78
me haz questions:
how do stability shoes provide stability? how do motion control shoes
control motion? if i see a pair of shoes that i have never heard of and the
sales person happens to be an idiot (most likely he is) and there is no
internet i can use to google, is there a way to tell what type of shoes they
are by their appearance?
o*******r
发帖数: 4921
79
恩,我一直以为自己是forefoot striker.
上个月pager同学给我录了跑步的video,我一个frame一个frame的看了之后,发现其实是
挺标准的mid-foot landing.
我的问题是离地的姿势不好.需要改进.

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I thought you were a forefoot striker?
m**k
发帖数: 18660
80
to check the sole and heel.
motion control has very hard sole inner side.

the
they

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: me haz questions:
: how do stability shoes provide stability? how do motion control shoes
: control motion? if i see a pair of shoes that i have never heard of and the
: sales person happens to be an idiot (most likely he is) and there is no
: internet i can use to google, is there a way to tell what type of shoes they
: are by their appearance?

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w****1
发帖数: 4931
81
can't you feel the difference with your feet? I don't need to see any video
to know that I'm doing forefoot strike, because the pressure is entirely on
my forefoot.
Perhaps you need to paw back more.

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 恩,我一直以为自己是forefoot striker.
: 上个月pager同学给我录了跑步的video,我一个frame一个frame的看了之后,发现其实是
: 挺标准的mid-foot landing.
: 我的问题是离地的姿势不好.需要改进.

D*****t
发帖数: 558
82
i guess by definition the trick should be on the medial side of the shoes.
however there were couple of times when i hold a pair of shoes in my hand
and tried to tell what type of shoes they were without looking at the label.
i failed each time. i was also told that the medial side of motion control
shoes is straight and stability shoes are curved. i couldn't tell the
difference. oh well.

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: to check the sole and heel.
: motion control has very hard sole inner side.
:
: the
: they

m**k
发帖数: 18660
83
my understanding (might be wrong) is that motion control shoes are heavier
and more stiff

label.
control

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: i guess by definition the trick should be on the medial side of the shoes.
: however there were couple of times when i hold a pair of shoes in my hand
: and tried to tell what type of shoes they were without looking at the label.
: i failed each time. i was also told that the medial side of motion control
: shoes is straight and stability shoes are curved. i couldn't tell the
: difference. oh well.

D*****t
发帖数: 558
84
thanks mark. good luck on Sunday.

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: my understanding (might be wrong) is that motion control shoes are heavier
: and more stiff
:
: label.
: control

m**k
发帖数: 18660
85
thanks dude!

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: thanks mark. good luck on Sunday.
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
86
MC shoes have very obvious characteristics. look at this:
http://www.shopnewbalance.com/alt_view.asp?style=MR1123MC

label.
control

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: i guess by definition the trick should be on the medial side of the shoes.
: however there were couple of times when i hold a pair of shoes in my hand
: and tried to tell what type of shoes they were without looking at the label.
: i failed each time. i was also told that the medial side of motion control
: shoes is straight and stability shoes are curved. i couldn't tell the
: difference. oh well.

b***i
发帖数: 10018
87
for comparison:

【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: MC shoes have very obvious characteristics. look at this:
: http://www.shopnewbalance.com/alt_view.asp?style=MR1123MC
:
: label.
: control

D*****t
发帖数: 558
88
so what shoes are these? i really can' t tell whether they are mc ,
stability or neutral
the NB1123 shoes are really straight and their medial side seems to be
reinforced. they are obviously MC shoes. also they have "motion control "
written on them. haha

【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: for comparison:
b***i
发帖数: 10018
89
those are all minimum neutral shoes.

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: so what shoes are these? i really can' t tell whether they are mc ,
: stability or neutral
: the NB1123 shoes are really straight and their medial side seems to be
: reinforced. they are obviously MC shoes. also they have "motion control "
: written on them. haha

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
90
running flats 不是也有stability的么。。。

【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: those are all minimum neutral shoes.
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236
91
MotionControl鞋跟很厚, 鞋很重, 适合超重的人。。
Neutral鞋轻, 鞋跟偏薄, 前掌垫厚, 适合efficient的人, 高手。。
Stability鞋处于两者之间, 理论上是适合大多数。。(大多数人都有点轻微over)

【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】
: so what shoes are these? i really can' t tell whether they are mc ,
: stability or neutral
: the NB1123 shoes are really straight and their medial side seems to be
: reinforced. they are obviously MC shoes. also they have "motion control "
: written on them. haha

w****1
发帖数: 4931
92
我跑的时候需要有拉伸脚底板的感觉。stability shoes(只穿过21X0 series)的感觉
是把脚放在一个模子里,觉得脚的肌肉都要退化了。实际上,我感觉是因为受21X0毒害
多年,脚退化的很厉害,直到用five fingers+forefoot strike in neutral shoes才
恢复脚应有的弹性。
今天穿上新的cumulus, 发现跟前几个月穿的磨损很厉害的旧cumulus很不一样,觉得前脚掌奇厚,踩棉花一样,有点太pamper自己了。时不时还是得穿speedstar把脚打练打练。

【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: MotionControl鞋跟很厚, 鞋很重, 适合超重的人。。
: Neutral鞋轻, 鞋跟偏薄, 前掌垫厚, 适合efficient的人, 高手。。
: Stability鞋处于两者之间, 理论上是适合大多数。。(大多数人都有点轻微over)

R*****s
发帖数: 41236
93
我其实非常喜欢SpeedStar, 心理也一直在斗争要不要穿这个鞋跑比赛。
哪怕就是前两天, 我还在想要不要冒险一把。。。
不过冷静一下, 觉得还是第一次全马不要冒险, 下次估计就会用SS4
上场了。。。

前脚掌奇厚,踩棉花一样,有点太pamper自己了。时不时还是得穿speedstar把脚打练
打练。

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: 我跑的时候需要有拉伸脚底板的感觉。stability shoes(只穿过21X0 series)的感觉
: 是把脚放在一个模子里,觉得脚的肌肉都要退化了。实际上,我感觉是因为受21X0毒害
: 多年,脚退化的很厉害,直到用five fingers+forefoot strike in neutral shoes才
: 恢复脚应有的弹性。
: 今天穿上新的cumulus, 发现跟前几个月穿的磨损很厉害的旧cumulus很不一样,觉得前脚掌奇厚,踩棉花一样,有点太pamper自己了。时不时还是得穿speedstar把脚打练打练。

y******n
发帖数: 4527
94
speedstar确实要求脚掌。我的右脚掌有点紧,就是ss4的薄底儿搞的。

前脚掌奇厚,踩棉花一样,有点太pamper自己了。时不时还是得穿speedstar把脚打练
打练。

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: 我跑的时候需要有拉伸脚底板的感觉。stability shoes(只穿过21X0 series)的感觉
: 是把脚放在一个模子里,觉得脚的肌肉都要退化了。实际上,我感觉是因为受21X0毒害
: 多年,脚退化的很厉害,直到用five fingers+forefoot strike in neutral shoes才
: 恢复脚应有的弹性。
: 今天穿上新的cumulus, 发现跟前几个月穿的磨损很厉害的旧cumulus很不一样,觉得前脚掌奇厚,踩棉花一样,有点太pamper自己了。时不时还是得穿speedstar把脚打练打练。

o*******r
发帖数: 4921
95
我感觉不出区别.
对于我来说,forefoot和midfoot landing的区别太细微了.冲刺的时候,就从midfoot转
到forefoot了.

video
on

【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: can't you feel the difference with your feet? I don't need to see any video
: to know that I'm doing forefoot strike, because the pressure is entirely on
: my forefoot.
: Perhaps you need to paw back more.

w********6
发帖数: 12977
96
1000 mile for me
b*********a
发帖数: 1145
97
我计划一双跑鞋穿一年,不管多少miles
c*******r
发帖数: 13580
98
我的根本穿不了那么久就破了

【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】
: 我计划一双跑鞋穿一年,不管多少miles
o*******r
发帖数: 4921
99
最近这个版的趋势不好.
2年前的趋势是要买合适的鞋,定期要换;现在鼓吹不换鞋的占上风了.
R*****s
发帖数: 41236
100
还在穿鞋跑就已经不错了 :)
俺个人还是相信主流的说法的, 500迈一换, 或者鞋底磨平了就换。。。
穿什么鞋也是我自己脚说了算, 不盲从。。

【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】
: 最近这个版的趋势不好.
: 2年前的趋势是要买合适的鞋,定期要换;现在鼓吹不换鞋的占上风了.

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