c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 1 想买一双鞋
1。 Saucony Kinvara 2
2。 Asics Speedstar 5
3。 Asics Hyper Speed 5
1&2runningwarehouse有,3没有,不知道是不是可以买男士的?说是要女士的鞋号减去
1.5号?
1现在在穿,424 mi,不知道要不要换
已经觉得Asics Speedstar 4有些沉了,忘了之前大家讨论的结果,好像你们现在都穿
Hyper Speed 5,没人穿Speedstar 5? |
a****n 发帖数: 1887 | 2 hyper speed 4, 我觉得慢跑没必要穿这个, 要是跑interval和tempo可以穿。 |
c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 3 我想跑马拉松的时候穿-:)
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hyper speed 4, 我觉得慢跑没必要穿这个, 要是跑interval和tempo可以穿。
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a****n 发帖数: 1887 | 4 最好跑mid long run 试试 先, 这鞋子对人要求蛮高的 |
c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 5 或者Asics Gel Tarther Diva?
白老大好像在穿,怎么样? |
c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 6 Thanks!
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 最好跑mid long run 试试 先, 这鞋子对人要求蛮高的
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 7 tarther比hs4更接近你现在穿的鞋。我穿了400多迈了。
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 或者Asics Gel Tarther Diva? : 白老大好像在穿,怎么样?
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 8 I am not trying to find one that "更接近你现在穿的鞋". I want to buy one
that can improve my time-:)
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : tarther比hs4更接近你现在穿的鞋。我穿了400多迈了。
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p***r 发帖数: 4859 | 9 你说的这几个鞋子有恰好都穿过,在穿这波鞋子之前我的主打是Mizuno Waverid
er 和Saucony triumph。都在10oz以上, 这批7-8 oz(男鞋 重量)的体会还是
很个人。按到手顺序。
ss5 8.9oz
实际是ss4,很顺脚,forelanding。现役
kinvara 7.3oz
脚内侧支持很强,感觉有点强迫前掌外侧着地,不适应,退役。
mt101 7.2 oz
喜欢鞋面材料,软!鞋底很硬,跑不了长距离,不适应,走路鞋。
hs4 7.2oz
很轻,太flat了。handler不了
tarther 7.2oz
感觉是SS4系列的轻量版本,起步前2mile对AT冲击较大,磨合以后很适应。商未
跑过Long,现役
green 7.2oz
喜欢鞋面设计,中规中矩,但是不合脚,还说不上是哪里不对,准备退役之。
如果有机会的话,还是上脚试一试。
每次换鞋的时候还是要小心,磨合很重要。
单从重量上好像没有明显优胜者。在这个档次推荐tarther和green
更进一步的话,可以考虑piranha和universe. 小龙和欢喜比较清楚
在 caomuzhiren (xinran) 的大作中提到: 】 |
o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 10 接近的才不受伤。我盲目上hs4惨了好几个月。
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am not trying to find one that "更接近你现在穿的鞋". I want to buy one : that can improve my time-:)
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 11 鞋这个太因人而异了, 非得自己试验...
SS4我觉得不错, SS5觉得不太给力, HS4训练不错,比赛就抽筋,
Tarther目前觉得很不错.....
HS5都出来了?
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 接近的才不受伤。我盲目上hs4惨了好几个月。
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 12 太感谢了,你鞋好多-:)
发现 kinvara我最常远跑过18麦,膝盖稍微有点不舒服,不过可能那么远都有
hs4,kinvara,tarther重量差不多啊
而且看来 ss5还是要重一些
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你说的这几个鞋子有恰好都穿过,在穿这波鞋子之前我的主打是Mizuno Waverid : er 和Saucony triumph。都在10oz以上, 这批7-8 oz(男鞋 重量)的体会还是 : 很个人。按到手顺序。 : ss5 8.9oz : 实际是ss4,很顺脚,forelanding。现役 : kinvara 7.3oz : 脚内侧支持很强,感觉有点强迫前掌外侧着地,不适应,退役。 : mt101 7.2 oz : 喜欢鞋面材料,软!鞋底很硬,跑不了长距离,不适应,走路鞋。 : hs4 7.2oz
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L***0 发帖数: 1283 | 13 I've worn all three. I give 3/10 to Kinvara, 5/10 to speedstar, and 8/10 to
hyperspeed. :)
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 想买一双鞋 : 1。 Saucony Kinvara 2 : 2。 Asics Speedstar 5 : 3。 Asics Hyper Speed 5 : 1&2runningwarehouse有,3没有,不知道是不是可以买男士的?说是要女士的鞋号减去 : 1.5号? : 1现在在穿,424 mi,不知道要不要换 : 已经觉得Asics Speedstar 4有些沉了,忘了之前大家讨论的结果,好像你们现在都穿 : Hyper Speed 5,没人穿Speedstar 5?
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 14 Too bad hyperspeed does not have a woman's version (confirmed from
runningwarehouse)
You felt speedstar 5 is better than Kinvara? I guess speedstar 5 is much
lighter than speedstar 4. I like Kinvara these days as my speedstar 4 felt
heavier.
Have you ever tried Asics Gel Tarther Diva?
to
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I've worn all three. I give 3/10 to Kinvara, 5/10 to speedstar, and 8/10 to : hyperspeed. :)
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L***0 发帖数: 1283 | 15 I would never wear Kinvara again. Kinvara made my shin splints worse in the
spring, while my shin splints were completely gone after switching to MT101.
Kinvara has too much support in the midfoot section. Some say it is a
lightweight stability shoe disguised as a minimalist. I'm not sure what that
means but it certainly isn't a minimalist shoe as advertised.
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Too bad hyperspeed does not have a woman's version (confirmed from : runningwarehouse) : You felt speedstar 5 is better than Kinvara? I guess speedstar 5 is much : lighter than speedstar 4. I like Kinvara these days as my speedstar 4 felt : heavier. : Have you ever tried Asics Gel Tarther Diva? : : to
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 16 You have to try it to know it.
We've got quite a few folks here injured from HS4. I am one of them. And
that's probably why my AT cramped first because it is still suffering the
pain from HS4.
Tarther has similar heel-to-toe drop to Kinvara.
I give Kinvara 3/10; Tarther 6/10; HS4 2/10;
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Too bad hyperspeed does not have a woman's version (confirmed from : runningwarehouse) : You felt speedstar 5 is better than Kinvara? I guess speedstar 5 is much : lighter than speedstar 4. I like Kinvara these days as my speedstar 4 felt : heavier. : Have you ever tried Asics Gel Tarther Diva? : : to
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 17 men's size+1.5
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Too bad hyperspeed does not have a woman's version (confirmed from : runningwarehouse) : You felt speedstar 5 is better than Kinvara? I guess speedstar 5 is much : lighter than speedstar 4. I like Kinvara these days as my speedstar 4 felt : heavier. : Have you ever tried Asics Gel Tarther Diva? : : to
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 18 agree. for me, the kinvara doesn't fit my feet
the
MT101.
that
【在 L***0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I would never wear Kinvara again. Kinvara made my shin splints worse in the : spring, while my shin splints were completely gone after switching to MT101. : Kinvara has too much support in the midfoot section. Some say it is a : lightweight stability shoe disguised as a minimalist. I'm not sure what that : means but it certainly isn't a minimalist shoe as advertised.
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 19 should it be "-1.5"?
What is your feeling about these shoes?
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : men's size+1.5
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 20 i wear Tarther, I will give it 6/10 based on whx's ratings
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Too bad hyperspeed does not have a woman's version (confirmed from : runningwarehouse) : You felt speedstar 5 is better than Kinvara? I guess speedstar 5 is much : lighter than speedstar 4. I like Kinvara these days as my speedstar 4 felt : heavier. : Have you ever tried Asics Gel Tarther Diva? : : to
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 21 12mm heel to toe drop.
weight 6.7oz for size 8.
Tarther is the only one. I got a few complain with Tarther, but I have no
second choice. :(
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i wear Tarther, I will give it 6/10 based on whx's ratings
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 22 Kinvara 1/10;
Tarther 7/10;
HS4 8/10;
Phiranha and Universe 9/10
我把我目前最喜欢的两款也都加上了。
-1.5这样说也行,我的意思是说,如果你穿7.5那么要买男鞋6.0
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : should it be "-1.5"? : What is your feeling about these shoes?
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 23 发现不管是哪个版,都是烧器材的帖子最招人气。。。呵呵
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Kinvara 1/10; : Tarther 7/10; : HS4 8/10; : Phiranha and Universe 9/10 : 我把我目前最喜欢的两款也都加上了。 : -1.5这样说也行,我的意思是说,如果你穿7.5那么要买男鞋6.0
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 24 My first choice is hyperspeed 4. It fits great, it's more flexible than
tarther, provides better road feel. I only wear Tarther when I run on gravel.
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 12mm heel to toe drop. : weight 6.7oz for size 8. : Tarther is the only one. I got a few complain with Tarther, but I have no : second choice. :(
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 25 错,你的抽抽帖更有人气。
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发现不管是哪个版,都是烧器材的帖子最招人气。。。呵呵
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 26 没有啊。才几个回帖而已。
一说到器材,大家都来劲了。有仇的报仇有恩的感恩了。
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 错,你的抽抽帖更有人气。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 27 so still wearing HS4 for CIM?
gravel.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My first choice is hyperspeed 4. It fits great, it's more flexible than : tarther, provides better road feel. I only wear Tarther when I run on gravel.
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 28 agleee
gravel.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My first choice is hyperspeed 4. It fits great, it's more flexible than : tarther, provides better road feel. I only wear Tarther when I run on gravel.
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 29 Agree with these 3 points, but I won't try any shoes with <12mm heel to toe
drop anymore... that hurts. :(
gravel.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My first choice is hyperspeed 4. It fits great, it's more flexible than : tarther, provides better road feel. I only wear Tarther when I run on gravel.
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 30 I guess I might should try Tarther as to buy a pair of man's shoes needs to
adjust size which sounds risking-:)
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i wear Tarther, I will give it 6/10 based on whx's ratings
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 31 yes, just retired my first pair of HS4 with 762 miles, still have 3 pairs in
my inventory.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so still wearing HS4 for CIM? : : gravel.
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 32 嘿嘿,这个可以不hurt
toe
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Agree with these 3 points, but I won't try any shoes with <12mm heel to toe : drop anymore... that hurts. :( : : gravel.
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 33 nono, Tarther is totally different, h-to-t drop is 12mm,
Kinvara is only 4mm....
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Agree with these 3 points, but I won't try any shoes with <12mm heel to toe : drop anymore... that hurts. :( : : gravel.
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 34 don't worry, you got free return
to
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess I might should try Tarther as to buy a pair of man's shoes needs to : adjust size which sounds risking-:)
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 35 她来cim么?
对了,你恢复咋样了?
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : so still wearing HS4 for CIM? : : gravel.
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 36 my hs4 only last 300miles..
in
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes, just retired my first pair of HS4 with 762 miles, still have 3 pairs in : my inventory.
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 37 不risk啊。。
to
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess I might should try Tarther as to buy a pair of man's shoes needs to : adjust size which sounds risking-:)
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 38 I think it depend on whether you are a forefoot striker or
heel striker, Tarther is good for heel/midfoot striker,
Hyperspeed 4 is excellent for forefoot striker, and
efficient runner....
to
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess I might should try Tarther as to buy a pair of man's shoes needs to : adjust size which sounds risking-:)
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 39 那看来还是买HS4,众偶像都这么喜欢-:)
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Kinvara 1/10; : Tarther 7/10; : HS4 8/10; : Phiranha and Universe 9/10 : 我把我目前最喜欢的两款也都加上了。 : -1.5这样说也行,我的意思是说,如果你穿7.5那么要买男鞋6.0
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 40 I expect HS5 is coming soon :)
in
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : yes, just retired my first pair of HS4 with 762 miles, still have 3 pairs in : my inventory.
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 41 time to buy more cheap HS4 then
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I expect HS5 is coming soon :) : : in
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 42 Running Warehouse--- Yes, the recommended size difference is 1.5 sizes, but
keep in mind the width difference as well. (Men's standard width is a D and
Women's is a B) -Lauren
I will take the risk-:)
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不risk啊。。 : : to
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 43 差不多了, 明天开跑。。。感觉恢复越来越快了。。。。
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她来cim么? : 对了,你恢复咋样了?
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 44 hoho, midfoot is now said to be the most efficient running form, not
forefoot.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I think it depend on whether you are a forefoot striker or : heel striker, Tarther is good for heel/midfoot striker, : Hyperspeed 4 is excellent for forefoot striker, and : efficient runner.... : : to
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 45 哦, 原来是这样。
不过我有经验,可以用的。
but
and
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Running Warehouse--- Yes, the recommended size difference is 1.5 sizes, but : keep in mind the width difference as well. (Men's standard width is a D and : Women's is a B) -Lauren : I will take the risk-:)
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 46 only 4? I thought it's 10mm. No wonder I felt so horrible when I tried it.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nono, Tarther is totally different, h-to-t drop is 12mm, : Kinvara is only 4mm....
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 47 你早就进阶了。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 差不多了, 明天开跑。。。感觉恢复越来越快了。。。。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 48 hard to say ah, Ryan vs Meb, who is better?
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hoho, midfoot is now said to be the most efficient running form, not : forefoot.
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 49 俺是还没入门就瓶颈了 T_T
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你早就进阶了。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 50 HS4关键是太不耐穿了,很快前掌就磨穿了,不晓得你怎么能穿着跑
这么多迈的?
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : time to buy more cheap HS4 then
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 51 没,耐力方面已经很好了。谈不上瓶颈。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 俺是还没入门就瓶颈了 T_T
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 52 你也老老实实穿Tarther吧。Tarther那么皮实。
你的tarther穿多少了?我的300迈了+外加每天走路穿,鞋底还跟新的一样。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HS4关键是太不耐穿了,很快前掌就磨穿了,不晓得你怎么能穿着跑 : 这么多迈的?
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r********r 发帖数: 2912 | 53 我SS4穿了快400迈了前后脚掌都已经快磨平了
到现在为止还没买过重样的鞋呢,至少SpeedStar不是我最喜欢的
下次试试tarther
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你也老老实实穿Tarther吧。Tarther那么皮实。 : 你的tarther穿多少了?我的300迈了+外加每天走路穿,鞋底还跟新的一样。
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 54 嗯,我的SS3/4也磨得比HS4快。
【在 r********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我SS4穿了快400迈了前后脚掌都已经快磨平了 : 到现在为止还没买过重样的鞋呢,至少SpeedStar不是我最喜欢的 : 下次试试tarther
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 55 没想到SS这么不抗磨。我的tarther很多小钉子上的细纹都还没磨掉。
嗯,我的SS3/4也磨得比HS4快。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,我的SS3/4也磨得比HS4快。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 56 上个你的tarther的鞋底图片吧,我的没跑多少迈,芝麻前2周刚买的。。。
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没想到SS这么不抗磨。我的tarther很多小钉子上的细纹都还没磨掉。 : : 嗯,我的SS3/4也磨得比HS4快。
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 57 按理说不应该, HS4的鞋底比SS4还是薄多了。。。
HS4的前掌基本就没有橡胶层。。。。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,我的SS3/4也磨得比HS4快。
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 58 太懒。就不上图了。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 上个你的tarther的鞋底图片吧,我的没跑多少迈,芝麻前2周刚买的。。。
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 59 问题是SS4的胶底跟粉笔差不多易磨...
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 按理说不应该, HS4的鞋底比SS4还是薄多了。。。 : HS4的前掌基本就没有橡胶层。。。。
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 60 小龙HS4能穿>500迈?我觉得小龙要坚持穿Tarther的话能穿3000迈。Tarther那些小黑
点点就跟钉子一样结实。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 问题是SS4的胶底跟粉笔差不多易磨...
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 61 是大于500mile了,而且摩的还挺平衡,所以我打算再用用。
Tarther我有一双,已经跑快400了 鞋底还基本不算磨多少。不过我现在用的鞋heal to
toe drop都在7mm以下,
【在 o*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 小龙HS4能穿>500迈?我觉得小龙要坚持穿Tarther的话能穿3000迈。Tarther那些小黑 : 点点就跟钉子一样结实。
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