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发帖数: 5637 | 1 最近好几家美国媒体都在讲现在"要想富，当农夫"。最近我在恶补Laura Ingalls Wilder草原小屋系列，昨天刚好看完Famer Boy。这本书是讲1870年左右她的老公，Almanzo Wilder,十岁时在纽约上周的富农生活。书中讲道农民的生活虽然非常艰苦，但是却是最自立和最有自尊的工作。Almanzo十岁时被一家小企业看中问他愿不愿意去做学徒工，以后还有可能继承那家工厂。但Alamanzo觉得去做商人和做老板都得仰人鼻息，还是腁手胝足的农民生活最好。在Ingalls Wilder系列丛书里，她多次提到农民是最具备美国的自由，勇敢，勤劳和开拓的精神的，而那时美国也正是由农民开发和建立的。这是Almanzo的父亲对他的谆谆教导和Almanzo的回应 （p370):
“"A farmer depends on himself, and the land and the weather. If you're a farmer, you raise what you eat, you raise what you wear, and you keep warm with wood out of your own timber. You work hard, but you work as you please, and no man can tell you to go or come. You'll be free and independent, son, on a farm."
”Almanzo squirmed....[he] did not want to live inside walls and please people。。。 He wanted to be just like Father.“
我们中国古代也讲士农工商，把农民排在商人和工人之前。其实做个好的农民还是非常不容易的，必须非常勤劳，而且还得有生意头脑，知道每个季节每种作物种多少，怎样和人家讨价还价等等。现在美国的新农民和我们小时候看到的中国农民又是非常不同的。他们好像不管做什么工作都有大的机械帮忙。那播种，收割的机器都还有GPS控制，所以不会同一块地走两次。。。
前一阵子大家担心有经济危机时，有一位网络名人就是放弃在大城市银行的VP工作不做，去偏远地区做一个完全自给自足的农民。以后的地球人满为患，土地资源会越来越稀少，大家的温饱问题怎么解决？那些由电子金钱衍生产品所盖成的经济大楼是不是弹指就倒的呢？是否我们要走在时代前列的话，就真要返璞归真再做回勤劳勇敢的农民或是农商呢。 | y****i
发帖数: 17878 | 2 American agriculture is heavily subsidized. w/o government support it will
be a totally different picture.
Wilder草原小屋系列，昨天刚好看完，Famer Boy。这本书是讲1870年左右她的老公，
Almanzo Wilder,十岁时在纽约上周的富农生活。书中讲道农民的生活虽然非常艰苦，
但是却是最自立和最有自尊的工作。Almanzo十岁时被一家小企业看中问他愿不愿意去
做学徒工，以后还有可能继承那家工厂。但Alamanzo觉得去做商人和做老板都得仰人鼻
息，还是腁手胝足的农民生活最好。在Ingalls Wilder系列丛书里，她多次提到农民是
最具备美国的自由，勇敢，勤劳和开拓的精神的，而那时: 美国也正是由农民开发和建
立的。这是Almanzo的父亲对他的谆谆教导和Almanzo的回应 （p370):
farmer, you raise what you eat, you raise what you wear, and you keep warm
with wood out of your own timber. You work hard, but you work as you please
, and no man can tell you to go or come. You'll be free and independent,
son, on a farm."
people he didn't like, and never have horses and cows and fields. He
wanted to be just like Father.“
常不容易的，必须非常勤劳，而且还得有生意头脑，知道每个季节每种作物种多少，怎
样和人家讨价还价等等。现在美国的新农民和我们小时候看到的中国农民又是非常不同
的。他们好像不管做什么工作都有大的机械帮忙。那播种，收割的机器都还有GPS控制
，所以不会同一块地走两次。。。
做，去偏远地区做一个完全自给自足的农民。以后的地球人满为患，土地资源会越来越
稀少，大家的温饱问题怎么解决？那些由电子金钱衍生产品所盖成的经济大楼是不是弹
指就倒的呢？是否我们要走在时代前列的话，就真要返璞归真再做回勤劳勇敢的农民或
是农商呢。
【在 s*********5 的大作中提到】
: 最近好几家美国媒体都在讲现在"要想富，当农夫"。最近我在恶补Laura Ingalls Wilder草原小屋系列，昨天刚好看完Famer Boy。这本书是讲1870年左右她的老公，Almanzo Wilder,十岁时在纽约上周的富农生活。书中讲道农民的生活虽然非常艰苦，但是却是最自立和最有自尊的工作。Almanzo十岁时被一家小企业看中问他愿不愿意去做学徒工，以后还有可能继承那家工厂。但Alamanzo觉得去做商人和做老板都得仰人鼻息，还是腁手胝足的农民生活最好。在Ingalls Wilder系列丛书里，她多次提到农民是最具备美国的自由，勇敢，勤劳和开拓的精神的，而那时美国也正是由农民开发和建立的。这是Almanzo的父亲对他的谆谆教导和Almanzo的回应 （p370):
: “"A farmer depends on himself, and the land and the weather. If you're a farmer, you raise what you eat, you raise what you wear, and you keep warm with wood out of your own timber. You work hard, but you work as you please, and no man can tell you to go or come. You'll be free and independent, son, on a farm."
: ”Almanzo squirmed....[he] did not want to live inside walls and please people。。。 He wanted to be just like Father.“
: 我们中国古代也讲士农工商，把农民排在商人和工人之前。其实做个好的农民还是非常不容易的，必须非常勤劳，而且还得有生意头脑，知道每个季节每种作物种多少，怎样和人家讨价还价等等。现在美国的新农民和我们小时候看到的中国农民又是非常不同的。他们好像不管做什么工作都有大的机械帮忙。那播种，收割的机器都还有GPS控制，所以不会同一块地走两次。。。
: 前一阵子大家担心有经济危机时，有一位网络名人就是放弃在大城市银行的VP工作不做，去偏远地区做一个完全自给自足的农民。以后的地球人满为患，土地资源会越来越稀少，大家的温饱问题怎么解决？那些由电子金钱衍生产品所盖成的经济大楼是不是弹指就倒的呢？是否我们要走在时代前列的话，就真要返璞归真再做回勤劳勇敢的农民或是农商呢。
| S**r
发帖数: 2478 | | S**r
发帖数: 2478 | 4 不要被前一张表误导。
实际上只有前10% commercial farm挣大钱，中等的family farm挣小钱，小型的family
farm 倒赔钱。
“Large” commercial farm households (farms with annual sales greater than $
250,000) obtained nearly 70% of household income on-farm and accounted for
80% of the value of total U.S. agricultural production in 2009, while
representing only about 10% of farm households.
Intermediate family farms (farms with annual sales in excess of $10,000 but
less than $250,000)obtained about 4% of household income from on-farm
sources, accounted for about 18% of the value of total U.S. agricultural
production, and represented about 30% of family farms.
“Small” farm households (annual sales less than $10,000) actually lost
revenue from farming operations (-13% of household income) and accounted for
less than 2% of the value of total U.S.agricultural production in 2009,
while representing over 60% of farm households. A substantial number of
these small farms are classified as rural residence farms and either receive
little or no income from farm sources or have a total income level that
qualifies them as limited-resource farms.
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| S**r
发帖数: 2478 | 5 不要被前一张表误导。
实际上只有前10% commercial farm挣大钱，中等的family farm挣小钱，小型的family
farm 倒赔钱。
“Large” commercial farm households (farms with annual sales greater than $
250,000) obtained nearly 70% of household income on-farm and accounted for
80% of the value of total U.S. agricultural production in 2009, while
representing only about 10% of farm households.
Intermediate family farms (farms with annual sales in excess of $10,000 but
less than $250,000)obtained about 4% of household income from on-farm
sources, accounted for about 18% of the value of total U.S. agricultural
production, and represented about 30% of family farms.
“Small” farm households (annual sales less than $10,000) actually lost
revenue from farming operations (-13% of household income) and accounted for
less than 2% of the value of total U.S.agricultural production in 2009,
while representing over 60% of farm households. A substantial number of
these small farms are classified as rural residence farms and either receive
little or no income from farm sources or have a total income level that
qualifies them as limited-resource farms.
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| s*********5
发帖数: 5637 | 6 敢情也是一个“大鱼吃小鱼”的世道呀。
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【在 S**r 的大作中提到】
: 不要被前一张表误导。
: 实际上只有前10% commercial farm挣大钱，中等的family farm挣小钱，小型的family
: farm 倒赔钱。
: “Large” commercial farm households (farms with annual sales greater than $
: 250,000) obtained nearly 70% of household income on-farm and accounted for
: 80% of the value of total U.S. agricultural production in 2009, while
: representing only about 10% of farm households.
: Intermediate family farms (farms with annual sales in excess of $10,000 but
: less than $250,000)obtained about 4% of household income from on-farm
: sources, accounted for about 18% of the value of total U.S. agricultural
| s*********5
发帖数: 5637 | 7 Just saw that there are many resources to assist people to start their own
agribusiness in America:
http://www.bing.com/search?pc=Z003&form=ZGAADF&q=starting+your+
One of the model you could have used in China is by using American's
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) model: Finding like-minded people to
invest in an organic farm, then distribute the food to them. I truly
believe that this could be a successful model.
If you ever become successful in this model, remember to treat me with the
fresh food. :) | s*********5
发帖数: 5637 | 8 Here is a case study and success story:
When Noah Scalin moved back to Richmond after living in New York, he looked
around for something like the organic food delivery service he had
appreciated up north. "When I didn't find it, I started calling around to
farmers and seeing if they were interested in starting something. In the
process, I learned about CSAs." Eventually, Scalin teamed up with Phillips
Organic Farm to create SPROUT, which provides members with weekly deliveries
of seasonal fruit and vegetables, as well as eggs, from May to October.
Regular shares are $516, and work shares are $258 plus a monthly volunteer
contribution. After three successful years, SPROUT shares for 2004 have all
been taken, but you can call to be added to the waiting list for 2005. In
the meantime, try out SPROUT produce at Ellwood Thompson's, which has a
corporate share. Noah Scalin, 321-6677, i**[email protected] |
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