c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 1 本来一天吃一顿就够, 现在每天晚上都得再吃一顿, 实在没忍住, 又去in n out吃
薯条汉堡。 很不健康 |
w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 2 天啊 这大半夜的 是诚心的吧 馋死我了的 我想吃 French fries了的,,,,,, |
s*********5 发帖数: 5637 | 3 上次还收到过Email说晚上吃太多不好。中午多吃点高蛋白食品,三四点时吃个protein
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 6 弄点低脂的牛奶 放在微波炉里 热热喝 更好吧.....
【在 m*z 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 冻天晚上比夏天饿~喝水把
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 7 the worst thing is low fat milk. it is processed chemically,
eh, not good
【在 w**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 弄点低脂的牛奶 放在微波炉里 热热喝 更好吧.....
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 8 哦? 我以为是用力搅象做cheese一样把油脂搅出来
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the worst thing is low fat milk. it is processed chemically, : eh, not good
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 9 最常用的传统脱脂方式是将牛奶煮沸后冷却,然后移除脂肪层。这一过程通常需要6-8
个小时。但最近一个世纪,人们开始采用离心过滤技术清除牛奶中的脂肪。在这一自动
加工过程中,牛奶在一个大容器中旋转,将脂肪分离出来。
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦? 我以为是用力搅象做cheese一样把油脂搅出来
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x*****n 发帖数: 1905 | 10 我知道的牛奶加工厂都是Pasteurization前把所有脂肪都提出来,最后再按照所需放回去。所
以我还是喝low fat。
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the worst thing is low fat milk. it is processed chemically, : eh, not good
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 11 我只买skim
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我知道的牛奶加工厂都是Pasteurization前把所有脂肪都提出来,最后再按照所需放回去。所 : 以我还是喝low fat。
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 12 闭着眼睛喝吧 要是 都做一遍research,哎 严格的讲 那超市里百分九十的吃的里
都有化学药品的 都是不能吃的呢 据说 现在 大米里 都开始加防腐剂了的.....
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the worst thing is low fat milk. it is processed chemically, : eh, not good
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x*****n 发帖数: 1905 | 14 我也想喝skim的,可是costco organic的只有2%。。
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我只买skim
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 15 买不起organic
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也想喝skim的,可是costco organic的只有2%。。
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 16 这里含有什么成分 和low fat有什么区别....
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我只买skim
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x*****n 发帖数: 1905 | 17 喂母乳的妈妈伤不起。。为了娃买了。。
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 买不起organic
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 18 全脱脂
【在 w**********s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这里含有什么成分 和low fat有什么区别....
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 19 哎 羡慕娃的幸福生活....我都想重新活一次.....
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 喂母乳的妈妈伤不起。。为了娃买了。。
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 20 zz:
Why You Don’t Want
Reduced Fat Milk in Your Diet!
If you were to visit a milk processing plant, you would see it is filled
with all types of stainless steel equipment and machinery.
Inside that machinery, the milk shipped from farms around the processing
plant is completely re-made, so that there is so much protein, so much
butterfat, etc.
This is done so that the milk products produced are both uniform and meet
the standards for milk products set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
First the milk is separated with special machinery into fat, protein and
various other solids and liquids. Once separated, these are remixed to set
levels for whole, low-fat and no-fat milks.
The butterfat left over goes into butter, cream, cheese, toppings and ice
cream.
When the fat is removed to make reduced fat milks, they replace the fat with
powdered milk concentrate. All reduced-fat milks have dried skim milk added
to give them body, although this ingredient is not usually on the labels.
The powdered skim milk concentrate is created by high temperature spray
drying. The result is a very high-protein, low-fat product.
The milk is forced through a tiny hole at high pressure, and then blown out
into the air. This causes the cholesterol in the milk to oxidize (chemically
changed).
NOTE: The natural cholesterol found in food contributes to health and is a
vital part of every cell membrane in your body.
However, you do not want to eat oxidized cholesterol. Oxidized cholesterol
contributes to atherosclerosis (the buildup of plaque inside the arteries),
which causes high blood pressure that eventually leads to heart attacks and
strokes.
So when you drink any kind of reduced-fat milk thinking that it will help
you avoid heart disease, you are actually consuming oxidized cholesterol,
which contributes to the process of heart disease as it builds up on the
inside walls of your arteries.
The moral to this story is stay away from any kind of reduced fat milk. If
you are going to buy milk buy only whole milk!
If you are lucky enough to live where it is available buy raw unpasteurized
milk, one of nature’s finest foods.
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦? 我以为是用力搅象做cheese一样把油脂搅出来
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 21 哎 学习了 第一次 知道 skim的 是全脱脂的.....
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 全脱脂
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 22 天哪 你还真有科研精神 哎 太多 不读了 我去吃个桃子 还有两个香蕉呢 我斗
争一下 是把它们都给吃了 还是 少吃点.....
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : zz: : Why You Don’t Want : Reduced Fat Milk in Your Diet! : If you were to visit a milk processing plant, you would see it is filled : with all types of stainless steel equipment and machinery. : Inside that machinery, the milk shipped from farms around the processing : plant is completely re-made, so that there is so much protein, so much : butterfat, etc. : This is done so that the milk products produced are both uniform and meet : the standards for milk products set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 23 i do not drink milk;
There are many advocates who are against milk.
one website is www.notmilk.com
i never read that website
【在 s*********5 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 相信Ogden不喝牛奶。。。
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 24 这个是说处理的时候胆固醇被氧化, 不是说化学方法处理
http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2010/06/23/the-real-story-of-
ilk-powdered-milk-skim-milk-and-oxidized-cholesterol/
这个是反驳的帖子
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : zz: : Why You Don’t Want : Reduced Fat Milk in Your Diet! : If you were to visit a milk processing plant, you would see it is filled : with all types of stainless steel equipment and machinery. : Inside that machinery, the milk shipped from farms around the processing : plant is completely re-made, so that there is so much protein, so much : butterfat, etc. : This is done so that the milk products produced are both uniform and meet : the standards for milk products set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 25 全脂的也不吃?
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i do not drink milk; : There are many advocates who are against milk. : one website is www.notmilk.com : i never read that website
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x*****n 发帖数: 1905 | 26 我之前在牛奶厂做过几天QA,全脂奶根脱脂奶的区别就是全脂奶=脱脂奶+之前脱出来
的脂肪~
如果care之前那些程序,不如改喝豆浆~ 不过豆浆男性不要喝太多,容易痛风的说~
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : zz: : Why You Don’t Want : Reduced Fat Milk in Your Diet! : If you were to visit a milk processing plant, you would see it is filled : with all types of stainless steel equipment and machinery. : Inside that machinery, the milk shipped from farms around the processing : plant is completely re-made, so that there is so much protein, so much : butterfat, etc. : This is done so that the milk products produced are both uniform and meet : the standards for milk products set by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 27 豆浆和豆制品里含有类似雌性激素的东西, 男的也不能多吃
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我之前在牛奶厂做过几天QA,全脂奶根脱脂奶的区别就是全脂奶=脱脂奶+之前脱出来 : 的脂肪~ : 如果care之前那些程序,不如改喝豆浆~ 不过豆浆男性不要喝太多,容易痛风的说~
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 28 can drink rice milk, almond milk
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我之前在牛奶厂做过几天QA,全脂奶根脱脂奶的区别就是全脂奶=脱脂奶+之前脱出来 : 的脂肪~ : 如果care之前那些程序,不如改喝豆浆~ 不过豆浆男性不要喝太多,容易痛风的说~
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m*z 发帖数: 3102 | 29
请问豆奶对女性有坏不?我妈常喝costco的豆奶~谢谢
【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我之前在牛奶厂做过几天QA,全脂奶根脱脂奶的区别就是全脂奶=脱脂奶+之前脱出来 : 的脂肪~ : 如果care之前那些程序,不如改喝豆浆~ 不过豆浆男性不要喝太多,容易痛风的说~
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 30 only in the bakery stuff.
do not drink just milk
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 全脂的也不吃?
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c******n 发帖数: 16403 | 31 我有段时间拿牛奶当水喝
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : only in the bakery stuff. : do not drink just milk
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O***n 发帖数: 13127 | 32 我记得写food inc的那被berkley 的教授说是加chemical 的
巧克力奶更不能喝,是有血丝的奶,加了可可粉就看不出了
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个是说处理的时候胆固醇被氧化, 不是说化学方法处理 : http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2010/06/23/the-real-story-of- : ilk-powdered-milk-skim-milk-and-oxidized-cholesterol/ : 这个是反驳的帖子
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w**********s 发帖数: 1881 | 33 天哪 我还就好那口 哎 手工 睡觉去了.....
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我记得写food inc的那被berkley 的教授说是加chemical 的 : 巧克力奶更不能喝,是有血丝的奶,加了可可粉就看不出了
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