O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 1 收到的change.org的email
摘要： 其实肉鸡都是不笼子里养的。simple truth 牌子的鸡故意标个cage free，卖
高价。misleading customers
有人class lawsuit了
Kroger: Stop misleading consumers about animal welfare standards
By Cassandra White
Clarkston, Georgia
Sign Cassandra's Petition
When I go to the grocery store, I read the labels carefully because I want
to know what I am buying to feed my family is something I can trust. I
expect that when I check a product, I can trust what the label says.
So when I saw Kroger’s Simple Truth Natural Chicken, and it read ‘raised
cage free’ and ‘in a humane environment’ I thought it was worth the
extra money to pay for a chicken that had a better life than animals on
factory farms. It turns out these terms mean nothing so I’m asking Kroger
to stop misleading consumers about animal welfare!
Until it can prove otherwise and implement real welfare changes for these
animals, Kroger needs to change their labels and immediately stop telling
the public that the birds are treated better than those on factory farms.
I did some research and learned that no chickens raised for meat in the U.S.
are raised in cages (it’s the hens for eggs that are confined to cages
unless stated otherwise), and I believe Kroger was using this ‘cage free’
label on chicken as a marketing gimmick to make more money.
My suspicion made me wonder about what they meant by ‘raised in a humane
environment,’ too. I called Kroger and asked what "humanely raised" means
and what the living conditions are for chickens, and the person I spoke
with said: "They live on the floor of a barn or poultry house” and had no
further details other than to confirm this is also true of “organic” birds.
According to a class action lawsuit filed by another consumer (represented
by Compassion Over Killing), Simple Truth chicken products are produced by
Perdue, a company that follows only the “minimal standards developed by
the industry,” standards that “necessitate inhumane treatment.” These
chickens
“have suffered continuously from cardiovascular problems, painful bone
deformities, ruptured tendons, and lameness.” These fast-growing chickens
that are selectively bred for as broilers “spend a full fifth of their
short lives in chronic pain so severe that it effectively immobilizes them.”
In addition, chickens “are shackled by their legs, upside-down, while fully
conscious as they are conveyed through processing facilities.” It is
acknowledged by the chicken industry that according to these minimal
standards, some chickens, after being subjected to electric “stun baths,”
may have their necks “unsuccessfully and partially cut while fully
conscious because they were ineffectively stunned . . . slowly bleed to
death while semi-conscious.”
What does that ‘humane environment’ mean? I feel like Kroger’s Simple
Truth Natural Chickens is simply not the truth as any reasonable consumer
would expect it – they are still selling marked up factory farmed chickens!
In reaction to the lawsuit mentioned above, a Kroger spokesperson told the
press they believe the current label is “accurate.” But I know they are
hoping this all blows over. And I started my petition to hold Kroger
accountable to transparent food production.
Please join me to demand Kroger stop saying ‘cage free’ because it is
misleading and that when they say ‘raised in a humane environment’ it
actually means something. I want better chicken for my family that I can
trust. Kroger must be transparent about the standards they are using now and
use a third party auditing animal welfare certification, to verify that the
animals are indeed raised in a humane environment.
Enough is enough.
Please sign my petition demanding that Kroger’s Simple Truth Natural
Chickens’ label actually means what it says. |
p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 2 Never trust "cage free". Consumer Reports highlighted this a long time ago.
You can still trust "Organic" but even then it is not the same as the
picture you have in mind.
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 收到的change.org的email
: 摘要： 其实肉鸡都是不笼子里养的。simple truth 牌子的鸡故意标个cage free，卖
: 高价。misleading customers
: 有人class lawsuit了
: Kroger: Stop misleading consumers about animal welfare standards
: By Cassandra White
: Clarkston, Georgia
:
: Sign Cassandra's Petition
:
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 3 i think Ralphs sell this brand. never bought it.
bought "Simply truth" milk once. will never buy it anymore.
.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Never trust "cage free". Consumer Reports highlighted this a long time ago.
: You can still trust "Organic" but even then it is not the same as the
: picture you have in mind.
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D**********R
发帖数: 25234 | |
O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 5 这个养鸡场还算好的。
我看food inc里面描述的。好多是又tunnel法饲养，鸡不见光的。光睡觉，长的快
【在 D**********R 的大作中提到】
: 猛一看还以为是天朝的火车站。。。。。
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c****l
发帖数: 1204 | |
c****l
发帖数: 1204 | |
t***h
发帖数: 2924 | 8 这么class suit告simple truth, 我不太支持.cage free就是cage free,
事实就行了,是顾客自己误解其他鸡肉是caged. 把simple truth告破产了
或者赔钱,鸡肉和鸡蛋的价格就要上升了.我一直买simple truth的
cage free的鸡蛋,质量挺好的.跟costco的不可同日而语. costco鸡蛋
不管是有机还是普通的, 打开之后,所有蛋清都一下掉下来了,跟蛋壳
都不连着.而simple truth的cage free鸡蛋, 最后总有很多蛋清是
粘在蛋壳上,很难掉下来的,跟家养的鸡蛋比较象. 煮熟以后蛋白的
口感也比costco鸡蛋有嚼头.所以我觉得营养成分应该是多一点. 价格也不算贵.
虽然说看到simple truth的cage free的照片跟中国火车站似的,但是
对鸡而言,应该还是比caged好多了.就想一下人关在一个小牢房里,
和站在火车站里,当然是在火车站里舒服了.至少还能跟身边的人聊聊天,
也能从人群中走两步,多少增加了一点自由.
资本家总是用最成本最低的方式赚钱,农场主也一样. 养鸡杀鸡是否humane
我不关心,本来鸡就不是人,不用人道的方式去处理.要真用人道标准对待鸡
了,就不要去杀鸡吃鸡肉. 西方人就是伪善.我只关心鸡肉和鸡蛋的营养.
我相信大规模养殖肉鸡和蛋鸡的,不可能真的让鸡四处奔跑的. 要真正
高质量的鸡肉鸡蛋,还是只能自己家里养.可惜鸡太吵了太臭了.要是鸡能
训练不随地大小便,不经常大声叫, 那家里养上几只还是挺不错的.
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 收到的change.org的email
: 摘要： 其实肉鸡都是不笼子里养的。simple truth 牌子的鸡故意标个cage free，卖
: 高价。misleading customers
: 有人class lawsuit了
: Kroger: Stop misleading consumers about animal welfare standards
: By Cassandra White
: Clarkston, Georgia
:
: Sign Cassandra's Petition
:
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r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 9 这个不错了，你是没看见 caged 是啥样的。
.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: Never trust "cage free". Consumer Reports highlighted this a long time ago.
: You can still trust "Organic" but even then it is not the same as the
: picture you have in mind.
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 10 生蛋的鸡才caged。
卖肉用的鸡都不caged。 他家主要是用cage free来忽悠人。traditional 肉鸡在工业
化养鸡场都是没cage的 。他家标上一个cage free来显得高大上
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
: 这个不错了，你是没看见 caged 是啥样的。
:
: .
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p**********0
发帖数: 438 | |
O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 12 你吃的蔬菜水果也骗你
连shampoo都骗你。说 95％ natural。 为啥那，因为95％ is water. water is
natural
【在 p**********0 的大作中提到】
: 欧哥哥，以后吃素就不会被骗了，还健康。
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p**********0
发帖数: 438 | 13 另外5%是什么？ 有可以取代洗发剂的东东吗？
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 你吃的蔬菜水果也骗你
: 连shampoo都骗你。说 95％ natural。 为啥那，因为95％ is water. water is
: natural
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r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 14 肥皂，小时候不是用肥皂洗发么
【在 p**********0 的大作中提到】
: 另外5%是什么？ 有可以取代洗发剂的东东吗？
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p**********0
发帖数: 438 | 15 别乱忽悠，我从来没有听过有人用肥皂洗头发。我从小就用洗发液。
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
: 肥皂，小时候不是用肥皂洗发么
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d****z
发帖数: 9503 | 16 赞年轻
【在 p**********0 的大作中提到】
: 别乱忽悠，我从来没有听过有人用肥皂洗头发。我从小就用洗发液。
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t******u
发帖数: 876 | 17 我的天啊
用过蜂花牌洗发液的人肯定不年轻
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 赞年轻
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p****n
发帖数: 2247 | 18 从小用皂角粉的涅？
【在 t******u 的大作中提到】
: 我的天啊
: 用过蜂花牌洗发液的人肯定不年轻
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l*****a
发帖数: 14598 | 19 俺们那个年代什么都不用
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 从小用皂角粉的涅？
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p****n
发帖数: 2247 | 20 噢，连水也不用，就是不洗嘛。哈哈哈哈
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 俺们那个年代什么都不用
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B**W
发帖数: 2273 | 21 There is another label, called free range chicken. That one is closer to
what we thought it should be.
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 收到的change.org的email
: 摘要： 其实肉鸡都是不笼子里养的。simple truth 牌子的鸡故意标个cage free，卖
: 高价。misleading customers
: 有人class lawsuit了
: Kroger: Stop misleading consumers about animal welfare standards
: By Cassandra White
: Clarkston, Georgia
:
: Sign Cassandra's Petition
:
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i********6
发帖数: 4766 | 22 鸡蛋的营养价值只跟鸡吃什么有关，跟是否笼养，集中营养，或者放养没任何关系。鸡
肉也同样。差别仅在于口感。
有专家研究分析过的。
当然有动物保护主义者说，动物在不好的环境下心情不好，产生的有毒物质比较多，就
是另一说了，没经证实过。
【在 t***h 的大作中提到】
: 这么class suit告simple truth, 我不太支持.cage free就是cage free,
: 事实就行了,是顾客自己误解其他鸡肉是caged. 把simple truth告破产了
: 或者赔钱,鸡肉和鸡蛋的价格就要上升了.我一直买simple truth的
: cage free的鸡蛋,质量挺好的.跟costco的不可同日而语. costco鸡蛋
: 不管是有机还是普通的, 打开之后,所有蛋清都一下掉下来了,跟蛋壳
: 都不连着.而simple truth的cage free鸡蛋, 最后总有很多蛋清是
: 粘在蛋壳上,很难掉下来的,跟家养的鸡蛋比较象. 煮熟以后蛋白的
: 口感也比costco鸡蛋有嚼头.所以我觉得营养成分应该是多一点. 价格也不算贵.
: 虽然说看到simple truth的cage free的照片跟中国火车站似的,但是
: 对鸡而言,应该还是比caged好多了.就想一下人关在一个小牢房里,
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 23 那是所谓专家呼悠你
当然主要成份蛋白质是一样，吃实验室养的细菌也能获得等量的蛋白质
关键是其它成份呢？为啥口感不一样？当然是其它成份不一样
心情好的鸡和心情差的鸡生出来的蛋是不一样的
【在 i********6 的大作中提到】
: 鸡蛋的营养价值只跟鸡吃什么有关，跟是否笼养，集中营养，或者放养没任何关系。鸡
: 肉也同样。差别仅在于口感。
: 有专家研究分析过的。
: 当然有动物保护主义者说，动物在不好的环境下心情不好，产生的有毒物质比较多，就
: 是另一说了，没经证实过。
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i***h
发帖数: 12655 | 24 co-赞
【在 d****z 的大作中提到】
: 赞年轻
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p********r
发帖数: 1980 | 25 No, it's not.
Free-range, free-roaming: The chicken has had access to the outdoors, even
if that means only that the door to the chicken house was left open briefly
each day.
Here is some other terms.
Certified Humane Raised and Handled: The chicken had access to clean food
and water, according to third-party inspectors with expertise in animal
welfare.
Fresh:The carcass's internal temperature hasn't dropped below 24° F. Still,
the chicken might be partly frozen.
Natural: The chicken was "minimally processed" in a way that didn't
fundamentally alter the raw product. It has no artificial ingredients,
preservatives, or added color.
No antibiotics administered: Don't assume this was verified unless you also
see the label "USDA organic."
No hormones: Pointless; the USDA prohibits the use of hormones in raising
poultry.
USDA organic: A USDA-accredited certifier has checked that the chicken
company followed standards: Chickens were raised without antibiotics, ate
100 percent organic feed with no animal byproducts, and could go outdoors (
though they might not have).
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: There is another label, called free range chicken. That one is closer to
: what we thought it should be.
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B**W
发帖数: 2273 | 26 What I tried to say is that the free range chicken is closer to what people
thought cage-free should be.
But thanks for the detailed explanation, anyways.
briefly
Still,
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: No, it's not.
: Free-range, free-roaming: The chicken has had access to the outdoors, even
: if that means only that the door to the chicken house was left open briefly
: each day.
: Here is some other terms.
: Certified Humane Raised and Handled: The chicken had access to clean food
: and water, according to third-party inspectors with expertise in animal
: welfare.
: Fresh:The carcass's internal temperature hasn't dropped below 24° F. Still,
: the chicken might be partly frozen.
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c****l
发帖数: 1204 | 27 我以前也以为是一回事呢，真作孽。
people
【在 B**W 的大作中提到】
: What I tried to say is that the free range chicken is closer to what people
: thought cage-free should be.
: But thanks for the detailed explanation, anyways.
:
: briefly
: Still,
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 28 这些商家就是利用消费者没去深入了解来迷惑消费者
【在 c****l 的大作中提到】
: 我以前也以为是一回事呢，真作孽。
:
: people
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 29 这年头不都是靠信息不对称挣钱么……
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 这些商家就是利用消费者没去深入了解来迷惑消费者
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s**********1
发帖数: 4651 | |
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 31 说明这家公司人品不好，以后就不要买他的东西
【在 s**********1 的大作中提到】
: 那它家的organic是真的吗？一直买这个。
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b****u
发帖数: 1654 | 32 是不是cage free，organic的鸡和鸡蛋，吃一下就知道了，在美国我还没吃到过那种家
养，只吃粮食，蔬菜和小虫子的鸡呢~ 所以我买的时候从不看那几个字~ |
y****i
发帖数: 17878 | 33 some can, I cannot
hehe
【在 b****u 的大作中提到】
: 是不是cage free，organic的鸡和鸡蛋，吃一下就知道了，在美国我还没吃到过那种家
: 养，只吃粮食，蔬菜和小虫子的鸡呢~ 所以我买的时候从不看那几个字~
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 34 太可怜了。
食不知味
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: some can, I cannot
: hehe
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D**********R
发帖数: 25234 | 35 人家那叫吃嘛嘛香！
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 太可怜了。
: 食不知味
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y****i
发帖数: 17878 | 36 这话我爱听，hehe
小O这人，高大上惯了，吃不得苦。
【在 D**********R 的大作中提到】
: 人家那叫吃嘛嘛香！
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 37 今天去吃了炸鸡，buffalo wild wing. 我这里刚开张不久，生意极好。周末都不敢去
好像在encinitas跟carsbald那交界处也有一家
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: 这话我爱听，hehe
: 小O这人，高大上惯了，吃不得苦。
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y****i
发帖数: 17878 | 38 yes, I've been the one in Encinitas several times already
it's not organic, is it?
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 今天去吃了炸鸡，buffalo wild wing. 我这里刚开张不久，生意极好。周末都不敢去
: 好像在encinitas跟carsbald那交界处也有一家
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O***n
发帖数: 13127 | 39 非organic得就要重口味吃
organic得就要清单轻口味吃
。。。。。。
【在 y****i 的大作中提到】
: yes, I've been the one in Encinitas several times already
: it's not organic, is it?
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y****i
发帖数: 17878 | 40 good to know
somehow I thought you despise anything, especially meat/poultry, that are
not organic.
a big juicy burger, some hot wings, an ice cold beer make a perfect
combination - one of those things you just can't miss in life.
【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: 非organic得就要重口味吃
: organic得就要清单轻口味吃
: 。。。。。。
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