s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 1 HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服
务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。 |
x***m 发帖数: 1733 | 2 why 标准化FCoE would make it 火? the logic seems that if there is standard,
then it would be the case the
lowest cost provider would win. only consumers who use fiber over ethernet,
like HP would gain from it.
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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m*******n 发帖数: 338 | 3 Is FCoE a temporary solution or not? I heard eventually all storage stuff
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 4 标准化当然很重要,特别是interop,客户担心买了产品被套牢,必须有second
provider,才能放心。
而这个标准化,特别是FCoE,需要server/storage/networking三方,所以难度大一些。
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【在 x***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why 标准化FCoE would make it 火? the logic seems that if there is standard, : then it would be the case the : lowest cost provider would win. only consumers who use fiber over ethernet, : like HP would gain from it.
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 5 good question. that's is my concern too. but what i know,
1) ethernet has delay issue;
2) FCoE is good to protect customer investment on storage.
【在 m*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Is FCoE a temporary solution or not? I heard eventually all storage stuff : will go to ethernet and FCoE is just a temporary thing.
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x***m 发帖数: 1733 | 6 you le standard, typically the provider's margin normally would be lower and
lower de
些。
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 标准化当然很重要,特别是interop,客户担心买了产品被套牢,必须有second : provider,才能放心。 : 而这个标准化,特别是FCoE,需要server/storage/networking三方,所以难度大一些。 : : , : ,
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 7 yes, providers have to deal with it. w/o it, the customer will not buy it,
even it is HP.
and
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you le standard, typically the provider's margin normally would be lower and : lower de : : 些。
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 8 版上有没有人对这个了解的?讲一讲?什么公司好啊
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 9 Not in another 5 years. Recent survey shows that 70% of major customers have no plan to migrate, 25% have it in long term plan, only 3% are actually
using FCoE.
In stead of FCoE, I think iSCSI will have better future, FCoE may turn out to be a hype.
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 10 really?! if this is true, that's a good news for brcd ah.
have
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Not in another 5 years. Recent survey shows that 70% of major customers have no plan to migrate, 25% have it in long term plan, only 3% are actually : using FCoE. : In stead of FCoE, I think iSCSI will have better future, FCoE may turn out to be a hype.
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m*******i 发帖数: 8711 | 11 why? the whole market doesn't grow.
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : really?! if this is true, that's a good news for brcd ah. : : have
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 12 Not necessarily, I think FCoE is just a hype.
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : really?! if this is true, that's a good news for brcd ah. : : have
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 13 storage market肯定会好的,这么多video, cloud computing,对storage要求只能越
来越大。
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : why? the whole market doesn't grow.
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 14 Now you are talking about something irrelavent, the world will need more and
more storage, no question about it, the question is what technology to
access the storage will eventually win?
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : storage market肯定会好的,这么多video, cloud computing,对storage要求只能越 : 来越大。
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m*******i 发帖数: 8711 | 15 Commodity storage. No one using fc
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : storage market肯定会好的,这么多video, cloud computing,对storage要求只能越 : 来越大。
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s*****g 发帖数: 1055 | 16 FC storage is a lazy and dumb networking eco-system and has led to a lot of
lazy thinking by storage admins. The FC/FCoE myths of performance or
reliability advantage are the result of massive over investment in storage
switching equipment from Brocade and Cisco.
iSCSI will rule! |
f****d 发帖数: 3888 | 17 what's FCoE???
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 18 有意思!看着iSCSI有几年了,以为都不行了。
of
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : FC storage is a lazy and dumb networking eco-system and has led to a lot of : lazy thinking by storage admins. The FC/FCoE myths of performance or : reliability advantage are the result of massive over investment in storage : switching equipment from Brocade and Cisco. : iSCSI will rule!
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T******g 发帖数: 21328 | 19 Fibre Channel over Ethernet有很大市场吗? |
D**s 发帖数: 3909 | 20 fiberchannelonethernet
【在 f****d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : what's FCoE???
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G*M 发帖数: 6042 | 21 HP is just following Cisco. HP is not likely to have much impact in FCoE.
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 22 iSCSI对中小型企业和放弃FC的Enterprise,有很大的吸引力。不过有FC storage的公
司怎么办?
of
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : FC storage is a lazy and dumb networking eco-system and has led to a lot of : lazy thinking by storage admins. The FC/FCoE myths of performance or : reliability advantage are the result of massive over investment in storage : switching equipment from Brocade and Cisco. : iSCSI will rule!
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 23 看了看一些报告,saiwong同学说的有道理,iSCSI增长的确是比较高的。
这个做iSCSI都有什么公司啊。
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : HP宣布要在标准化FCoE,有可能大幅加快FCoE推广,Cisco也有同样的打算,不过在服 : 务器市场中份额太小,不像HP,几乎是50%。所以HP的决定对FCoE非常重要。
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w*****n 发帖数: 29 | 24 同学,哪里看的报告,能分享一下嘛? 是最近的嘛?
这个SAIWONG 同学是做什莫德? 整天喊口号 iSCSI 就能Rule了?
醒醒吧.
看看都有谁在做FCoE吧:
Cisco, HP, IBM, Juniper, Brocade, Emulex, QLogic,
Broadcom,
Storage side : EMC , HP, IBM ,
Cisco 早就抛弃 iSCSI了, 死是早晚的事儿.
另外, FCoE 是working at Data Center ,用来 replace Fibre
Channel. 和 End Device 没太大关系. End Device 还是跑
Internet, 只是文件系统和上层的应用要改动, 更好的利用Cloud.
对了,谁知道还有哪家大公司在做 iSCSI 呀?
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看了看一些报告,saiwong同学说的有道理,iSCSI增长的确是比较高的。 : 这个做iSCSI都有什么公司啊。
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m**a 发帖数: 291 | 25 HP 和 IBM 的 FCoE 产品都是自己做的? |
s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 26 报告也都是网上google的
iSCSI growth is 21% while FC is only 7%;
做iSCSI也不少,Brocade, ELX, QLGC, BRCM, NTAP, EMC
【在 w*****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 同学,哪里看的报告,能分享一下嘛? 是最近的嘛? : 这个SAIWONG 同学是做什莫德? 整天喊口号 iSCSI 就能Rule了? : 醒醒吧. : 看看都有谁在做FCoE吧: : Cisco, HP, IBM, Juniper, Brocade, Emulex, QLogic, : Broadcom, : Storage side : EMC , HP, IBM , : Cisco 早就抛弃 iSCSI了, 死是早晚的事儿. : 另外, FCoE 是working at Data Center ,用来 replace Fibre : Channel. 和 End Device 没太大关系. End Device 还是跑
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x***j 发帖数: 82 | 27 Brcd is the leader
【在 s******v 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 版上有没有人对这个了解的?讲一讲?什么公司好啊
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m**a 发帖数: 291 | 28 HP, IBM 的都是贴牌吧, 自己不做的..... |
m**a 发帖数: 291 | 29 您说rule, 它就rule, 不rule也rule?
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【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : FC storage is a lazy and dumb networking eco-system and has led to a lot of : lazy thinking by storage admins. The FC/FCoE myths of performance or : reliability advantage are the result of massive over investment in storage : switching equipment from Brocade and Cisco. : iSCSI will rule!
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s******v 发帖数: 4495 | 30 你们有过节?何必那,就是交流交流,对不对,时间是检验真理的唯一标准。
【在 m**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 您说rule, 它就rule, 不rule也rule? : : of
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m**a 发帖数: 291 | 31 'The FC/FCoE myths of performance or reliability advantage are the result of
massive over investment in storage switching equipment from Brocade and
Cisco'
storage switch这边 Brocade 跟 Cisco是市场老大老二
他们主推什么标准,什么标准就应该是未来的走向啊.
我主要是不知道saiwong 说iSCSI 会rule的理由是什么啊 |