y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 1 随便举个例子吧.
大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
嘿嘿...
如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
从头到尾,完全免费.
等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
总有人要为这个付钱吧?
对不? |
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 2 再来举个例子吧.
大家知道开诊所买保险要花多少钱吗?
嘿嘿...
买保险,买这么贵的保险干什么用啊?
嘿嘿...
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 3 let CA down, the sooner the better.
This is the only way out
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 4 接着来.
你知道,每年医仪/药厂每年最提心掉胆的是什么吗?
你知道,为了FDA/regulation,要砸多少银子下去吗?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 再来举个例子吧.
: 大家知道开诊所买保险要花多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 买保险,买这么贵的保险干什么用啊?
: 嘿嘿...
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 5 what's your proposal? everybody pays for their own medical cost?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 6 怕医疗事故赔钱？what else can you do?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 再来举个例子吧.
: 大家知道开诊所买保险要花多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 买保险,买这么贵的保险干什么用啊?
: 嘿嘿...
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 7 他们怕产品不被批。is FDA/regulation being unreasonable?
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 接着来.
: 你知道,每年医仪/药厂每年最提心掉胆的是什么吗?
: 你知道,为了FDA/regulation,要砸多少银子下去吗?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 8 i am all for cutting cost.
你要学日本,我没有意见.
可要学好呆也学全了,不搞tort reform,最终还不是接着吃屎.
Health Outlays Still Seen Rising
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704362404575480161749608830.html?mod=WSJ_topics_obama
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: what's your proposal? everybody pays for their own medical cost?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 9 i am not saying it is unresonable,
i am just telling somebody, there are numerous costs to do business in this
country.
dont forget.
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 他们怕产品不被批。is FDA/regulation being unreasonable?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 10 别忘了,tort reform后面搞的都是民主diang ambulance chaser的颂棍.
如果obama拿这个开刀,
我第一个赞他是真change.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: i am all for cutting cost.
: 你要学日本,我没有意见.
: 可要学好呆也学全了,不搞tort reform,最终还不是接着吃屎.
: Health Outlays Still Seen Rising
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704362404575480161749608830.html?mod=WSJ_topics_obama
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 11 为什么ambulance chaser都是民主党？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 别忘了,tort reform后面搞的都是民主diang ambulance chaser的颂棍.
: 如果obama拿这个开刀,
: 我第一个赞他是真change.
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 12 大都是.
好了吧...
至于代表人物,就当我老人家留个家庭作业了.
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 为什么ambulance chaser都是民主党？
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 13 cut什么cost？在美国有各种法律保护consumers和labor，做business就是贵，but
that's not necessarily a bad thing. 关键是怎样对付inefficiency, corruption
and fraud. I don't think the final health care reform law solves the problem
, but that's not the version Obama wanted, either.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: i am all for cutting cost.
: 你要学日本,我没有意见.
: 可要学好呆也学全了,不搞tort reform,最终还不是接着吃屎.
: Health Outlays Still Seen Rising
: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704362404575480161749608830.html?mod=WSJ_topics_obama
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 14 give me a break.
what do you know what obama wants?
i can tell you, all he needs is sth like a paper with a title named
healthcare reform in big font size that he can sign.
then he will be remembered in the history, forever.
sure he will be remembered forever.
problem
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: cut什么cost？在美国有各种法律保护consumers和labor，做business就是贵，but
: that's not necessarily a bad thing. 关键是怎样对付inefficiency, corruption
: and fraud. I don't think the final health care reform law solves the problem
: , but that's not the version Obama wanted, either.
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 15 另外,你终于谈到corruption and fraud了.
there is 60b fraud every year in medicare.
that's 6 with 10 zeros.
60000000000.
wait, did i get those zeros correct, hopefully i did.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/01/60minutes/main6825948_page4.shtml
problem
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: cut什么cost？在美国有各种法律保护consumers和labor，做business就是贵，but
: that's not necessarily a bad thing. 关键是怎样对付inefficiency, corruption
: and fraud. I don't think the final health care reform law solves the problem
: , but that's not the version Obama wanted, either.
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 16 Can you be more constructive? I am in no position to defend Obama or his
reform. But belittling him doesn't solve any problem.
What I like to hear more is what cost can be cut so that the health care can
be cheaper and yet be available to more people.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: give me a break.
: what do you know what obama wants?
: i can tell you, all he needs is sth like a paper with a title named
: healthcare reform in big font size that he can sign.
: then he will be remembered in the history, forever.
: sure he will be remembered forever.
:
: problem
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 17 do you know say e.g. what is tort reform?
can
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: Can you be more constructive? I am in no position to defend Obama or his
: reform. But belittling him doesn't solve any problem.
: What I like to hear more is what cost can be cut so that the health care can
: be cheaper and yet be available to more people.
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 18 how about say, medicare reform?
that's another 60 billion dollar a year.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: do you know say e.g. what is tort reform?
:
: can
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 19 OK. that's not news. now the question is how to cut them.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 另外,你终于谈到corruption and fraud了.
: there is 60b fraud every year in medicare.
: that's 6 with 10 zeros.
: 60000000000.
: wait, did i get those zeros correct, hopefully i did.
: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/01/60minutes/main6825948_page4.shtml
:
: problem
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 20 something frustrates me is that, i have been writing all of these as if it
was deemed as irrelevant.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: how about say, medicare reform?
: that's another 60 billion dollar a year.
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 21 no I don't for sure as of now. but I can always look it up.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: do you know say e.g. what is tort reform?
:
: can
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 22 e.g.
you can write a letter to dear ag holder.
dear ag holder,
before you make a damn fuzz about black panthers and arizona illegals as
your fisrt priority.
would you please take a sneak peek at our to be bankrupted medicare.
sincerely yours,
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: OK. that's not news. now the question is how to cut them.
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 23 OK. I get your points. you think the priorities are tort reform for one and
combating medicare fraud for another. Good ideas but they are not so easily
achieved given the current political environment and structure.
I don't follow all your posts. But I found your messages are easily lost in
your belligerent style.
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: e.g.
: you can write a letter to dear ag holder.
: dear ag holder,
: before you make a damn fuzz about black panthers and arizona illegals as
: your fisrt priority.
: would you please take a sneak peek at our to be bankrupted medicare.
: sincerely yours,
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f*****a
发帖数: 781 | 24 不是O教主自己印钞票买单？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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l*****O
发帖数: 402 | 25 If you are worried about writing checks, ask your party to levy fat tax. For
example,
1. tax all processed meat
2. tax all can food
3. tax all food package with saturated fat
4. tax higher on all food package with trans fat
5. tax higher on all food packcage and drinks with more than 5gram sugar per
serving
6. tax higher on all food package with extra sodium
7. extra tax on all women whose waists are bigger than 32 inches
8. extra tax on all men whose waists are bigger than 34 inches
9. extra ta
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 26 that's exactly why i say these lib crooks come up with all these tax and
useful idiots buying into it.
instead of all these tax which make everybody suffer, why can't we just tax
those fat ass who have to live on others.
e.g. if you can't get up at 7am in the morning and come here exercise to get
rid of your fat ass, ... no free food stamp for you.
For
per
【在 l*****O 的大作中提到】
: If you are worried about writing checks, ask your party to levy fat tax. For
: example,
: 1. tax all processed meat
: 2. tax all can food
: 3. tax all food package with saturated fat
: 4. tax higher on all food package with trans fat
: 5. tax higher on all food packcage and drinks with more than 5gram sugar per
: serving
: 6. tax higher on all food package with extra sodium
: 7. extra tax on all women whose waists are bigger than 32 inches
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s*******e
发帖数: 4188 | 27 Some people are fat not because they want to be or they don't care. Some are
genetic. Some are caused by unhealthy food they consumed when they were
young. Those are things that are out of their control yet they are suffering
because of them. We have such a person in our office. She tried various
methods to loss weight but none works. When you get to know those
individuals, you have a different perspective.
tax
get
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: that's exactly why i say these lib crooks come up with all these tax and
: useful idiots buying into it.
: instead of all these tax which make everybody suffer, why can't we just tax
: those fat ass who have to live on others.
: e.g. if you can't get up at 7am in the morning and come here exercise to get
: rid of your fat ass, ... no free food stamp for you.
:
: For
: per
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 28 呵呵...
i can say, genetics just one convinient excuse of lazy people, for 99% of
time.
either you are too lazy to lose your weight, or you are too lazy to find a
good way to lose your weight.
liberals want you to believe it is not your fault being lazy, the matter of
fact is, it is.
are
suffering
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: Some people are fat not because they want to be or they don't care. Some are
: genetic. Some are caused by unhealthy food they consumed when they were
: young. Those are things that are out of their control yet they are suffering
: because of them. We have such a person in our office. She tried various
: methods to loss weight but none works. When you get to know those
: individuals, you have a different perspective.
:
: tax
: get
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g********n
发帖数: 2314 | 29 不是大名鼎鼎的约翰，爱德华兹？
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 大都是.
: 好了吧...
: 至于代表人物,就当我老人家留个家庭作业了.
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | |
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 31 我赞成 tort reform
那些律师不全是民主党的
富得流油的很多是共和党
事实上，富人，财团，富人利益团体，是两党都押宝的
共和党当政时（ Bush 的前几年）怎么不提 tort reform?
另外，如果今天医疗纠纷，死了人也最多赔20万
广大的自私群众赞成吗？
这个社会已经从上到下，腐烂了 |
y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 32 you know what is the difference between us and you?
when bush being an ahole, we call him out.
when obama being an ahole, you kiss his s.
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 我赞成 tort reform
: 那些律师不全是民主党的
: 富得流油的很多是共和党
: 事实上，富人，财团，富人利益团体，是两党都押宝的
: 共和党当政时（ Bush 的前几年）怎么不提 tort reform?
: 另外，如果今天医疗纠纷，死了人也最多赔20万
: 广大的自私群众赞成吗？
: 这个社会已经从上到下，腐烂了
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | |
B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 34 大家都知道，你自己也知道
tort refrom 是毒瘤，可是这个瘤已经扩散在每个人身上
割了都会疼，没人想碰
你不过说说而已
我批评 Bush， 你不爽了吧
还什么 “we called him out"
by the way, what English is it to say "call one out"?
你把你批评 Bush 的帖拿出看看
我就不信
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: you know what is the difference between us and you?
: when bush being an ahole, we call him out.
: when obama being an ahole, you kiss his s.
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 35 no, i just simply dont let you obamabots easily get away by using blaming
bush tactics.
hoho...
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】
: 大家都知道，你自己也知道
: tort refrom 是毒瘤，可是这个瘤已经扩散在每个人身上
: 割了都会疼，没人想碰
: 你不过说说而已
: 我批评 Bush， 你不爽了吧
: 还什么 “we called him out"
: by the way, what English is it to say "call one out"?
: 你把你批评 Bush 的帖拿出看看
: 我就不信
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B******e
发帖数: 5730 | 36 yourtt,
what is "call one out"?
it is not english. |
l******l
发帖数: 2651 | 37 还两句？两百句有了吧？
把自己搞得跟国内政工领导一样罗嗦，真够堕落的。
你属鸭子的。
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: 随便举个例子吧.
: 大家知道装个pacemaker多少钱吗?
: 嘿嘿...
: 如果你有幸成为加州共产持卡人士.
: 从头到尾,完全免费.
: 等一下,这个免费真的是免费的吗?
: 总有人要为这个付钱吧?
: 对不?
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