c*****r 发帖数: 8227 | 1 Oh Yeah!
President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a
deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all
income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend
jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for
a year and take other steps to bolster the economy.
It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2
percentage points to 4.2% for a year.
Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll
tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
The two percentage point cut would mean a savings of $2,136. |
x***m 发帖数: 1733 | 2 or yeah, in order to use up the $2000 to stimulate the ecomony, i would eat
out very weekend with $40 bucks.
hehe
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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s**p 发帖数: 702 | 3 what's the current cap ?
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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n***b 发帖数: 5914 | 4 bso maxing out the SS cap.,.....
eat
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : or yeah, in order to use up the $2000 to stimulate the ecomony, i would eat : out very weekend with $40 bucks. : hehe : : for : 2 : payroll
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g********n 发帖数: 2314 | 5 with 4.2% and no cap, you will be doomed.
eat
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : or yeah, in order to use up the $2000 to stimulate the ecomony, i would eat : out very weekend with $40 bucks. : hehe : : for : 2 : payroll
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l*******1 发帖数: 866 | 6 Any news on the AMT patch extension??
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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n******n 发帖数: 12088 | 7 no cap? really?
【在 g********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : with 4.2% and no cap, you will be doomed. : : eat
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x***m 发帖数: 1733 | 8
Iguess they will work out fine
【在 l*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Any news on the AMT patch extension?? : : for : 2 : payroll
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o****e 发帖数: 4946 | 9 I think he meant to say "(if) with 4.2% and no cap....."
【在 n******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no cap? really?
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c*****r 发帖数: 8227 | 10 It should be in the package - that's part of so called "bush tax cut".
【在 l*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Any news on the AMT patch extension?? : : for : 2 : payroll
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l**t 发帖数: 6971 | 11 AMT fix is part of the package, as expected. It has nothing to do with "
Bush tax cut", though. |
w*********m 发帖数: 4740 | 12 maximum is cut too?
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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h*******a 发帖数: 573 | 13 This deal makes me sick. I would rather pay high taxes than having my kids
pay for the tax cuts for the rich. Adding 700 billion dollars to the budget
deficit so that the 2% richest Americans don't have to pay an extra 3.6% in
income tax? and also making permanent the estate taxes? What a financial
disaster!
Obama lost my vote today. |
B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 14 I agree with you that it is so sick.
But, it is Republicans in both Houses of Congress that are so sick.
They vowed to block EVERY bill in congress UNLESS Democrats and Obama agree
to extend tax cuts to the richest.
Congressional Democrats 曾经提出两个修正案,
对年薪50万和100万以下的大多数家庭和个人免税,
遭到 Republican filibuster 封杀
他们坚持要对最富的人减税
Republican 还是人么?
budget
in
【在 h*******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This deal makes me sick. I would rather pay high taxes than having my kids : pay for the tax cuts for the rich. Adding 700 billion dollars to the budget : deficit so that the 2% richest Americans don't have to pay an extra 3.6% in : income tax? and also making permanent the estate taxes? What a financial : disaster! : Obama lost my vote today.
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 15 Without the compromise, middle-income families would become “collateral
damage for political warfare here in Washington,” Obama said in televised
remarks yesterday.
Republican Representative 说,让富人减税可以 create jobs
全是一派胡言,
现在企业坐拥大量的cash, 就是不愿多雇人
原因是对未来没有信心
减再多税,都没有提振经济的效果 |
e**s 发帖数: 4638 | 16 劫贫济富了,中产被 gop 绑架啦 。。。。。。
当然民主党加税是为了老黑老墨非法移民,中产一样不唠好 。。。。lol |
c*****r 发帖数: 8227 | 17 The perusing the best interest for each of individuals is the foundation of
the best interest for the whole society...
It's my best interest to save couple of thousand bucks for my kids, period. |
y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 18 those parasites are getting crazy now, since they thought your hard earned
dollars belongs to them.
of
【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The perusing the best interest for each of individuals is the foundation of : the best interest for the whole society... : It's my best interest to save couple of thousand bucks for my kids, period.
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w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 19 man, you are too near-sighted
yes, you got a 2% tax cut,
but the unemployment benefit also extended to another year.
Both lead to more governmental deficit.
Eventually you will pay more for the deficit. That's for sure.
of
【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The perusing the best interest for each of individuals is the foundation of : the best interest for the whole society... : It's my best interest to save couple of thousand bucks for my kids, period.
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c*****r 发帖数: 8227 | 20 A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
A bird in the hand is especially better while no birds in the bush (in the
future)
Man, what can you do? Take care of yourself, and your family first...
【在 w******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : man, you are too near-sighted : yes, you got a 2% tax cut, : but the unemployment benefit also extended to another year. : Both lead to more governmental deficit. : Eventually you will pay more for the deficit. That's for sure. : : of
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 21 when liberals talking about debt, lots of time, they meant to say...
government school funding...
government pension funding...
government welfare funding...
...
【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. : A bird in the hand is especially better while no birds in the bush (in the : future) : Man, what can you do? Take care of yourself, and your family first...
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 22 不摆明的减税么?
那里加税来着?
【在 e**s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 劫贫济富了,中产被 gop 绑架啦 。。。。。。 : 当然民主党加税是为了老黑老墨非法移民,中产一样不唠好 。。。。lol
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b******d 发帖数: 2495 | 23 best news of the day.
多2000块钱花差。
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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e**s 发帖数: 4638 | 24 民主党骨子里就想加税,然后给老黑老墨非法 aliens 印 food stamp,只是这次被GOP
费了巴斯特啦 。。。。。。。。。。lol
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不摆明的减税么? : 那里加税来着?
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 25 你有摸着良心说话么?
共和党主政的年代
怎么不见他们取消 food stamp?
你去参加几个共和党的集会
看他们怎么歧视你
你就晓得该不该做他们的马前卒
GOP
【在 e**s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 民主党骨子里就想加税,然后给老黑老墨非法 aliens 印 food stamp,只是这次被GOP : 费了巴斯特啦 。。。。。。。。。。lol
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I*****2 发帖数: 1586 | 26 有种的年入40万以上的交10% Social security.
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【在 c*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Oh Yeah! : President Obama said Monday that he had agreed to the main elements of a : deal with Congressional Republicans to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all : income levels for two years as part of a package that would also extend : jobless aid for long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for : a year and take other steps to bolster the economy. : It includes reducing the 6.2% Social Security payroll tax on employees by 2 : percentage points to 4.2% for a year. : Under current law, workers in 2011 would pay 6.2% in Social Security payroll : tax on income up to $106,800, or a maximum of $6,621.60.
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n****i 发帖数: 1772 | 27 别说40万,年收入20万以上的人基本上不会用social security和medicare, so be
grateful, bitch!
多交几个percent其实没什么影响,每年给国内失学孩子的捐款都比这个多。不过我宁
愿捐款。区别是一旦发现欺诈和滥
用,我可以‘停止’捐款。
【在 I*****2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有种的年入40万以上的交10% Social security. : : for : 2 : payroll
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l**t 发帖数: 6971 | 28
年收入20万以上不会用medicare???你老反O8反昏了头了吧。
【在 n****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别说40万,年收入20万以上的人基本上不会用social security和medicare, so be : grateful, bitch! : 多交几个percent其实没什么影响,每年给国内失学孩子的捐款都比这个多。不过我宁 : 愿捐款。区别是一旦发现欺诈和滥 : 用,我可以‘停止’捐款。
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n****i 发帖数: 1772 | 29 我老虽然不反O8, 但也有必要给你讲讲,年薪20万以上的退休后多半是个富人,宁愿多
付钱而不用medicare, 如果这个系
统没有被fix的话。现在医生如果有选择的话,都会想方设法的离开medicare系统,很
不幸,O8刚刚给他们减了工资。等
你7老8十了,想去看病的时候,忽然发现周围收medicare的医生都是埃塞俄比亚印度古
巴边远山区毕业的,或者是铁岭医
学院毕业的老中,你打算省这个钱么?
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 年收入20万以上不会用medicare???你老反O8反昏了头了吧。
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 30 那些人预计自己65岁前就挂了
也蛮可怜的
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : 年收入20万以上不会用medicare???你老反O8反昏了头了吧。
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l**t 发帖数: 6971 | 31
What???你sure没有少敲一个零?
【在 n****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我老虽然不反O8, 但也有必要给你讲讲,年薪20万以上的退休后多半是个富人,宁愿多 : 付钱而不用medicare, 如果这个系 : 统没有被fix的话。现在医生如果有选择的话,都会想方设法的离开medicare系统,很 : 不幸,O8刚刚给他们减了工资。等 : 你7老8十了,想去看病的时候,忽然发现周围收medicare的医生都是埃塞俄比亚印度古 : 巴边远山区毕业的,或者是铁岭医 : 学院毕业的老中,你打算省这个钱么?
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 32 有人真是刚上岸的
65岁以上,有钱也买不到保险
没有保险公司卖给你
懂吗? |
w******y 发帖数: 8040 | 33 年薪20万以上的退休后多半是个富人, 宁愿多付钱而不用medicare
这句话太joke了吧
【在 n****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我老虽然不反O8, 但也有必要给你讲讲,年薪20万以上的退休后多半是个富人,宁愿多 : 付钱而不用medicare, 如果这个系 : 统没有被fix的话。现在医生如果有选择的话,都会想方设法的离开medicare系统,很 : 不幸,O8刚刚给他们减了工资。等 : 你7老8十了,想去看病的时候,忽然发现周围收medicare的医生都是埃塞俄比亚印度古 : 巴边远山区毕业的,或者是铁岭医 : 学院毕业的老中,你打算省这个钱么?
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 34 他当AMA在睡觉啊
“医生都是埃塞俄比亚印度古
巴边远山区毕业的,或者是铁岭医
学院毕业的老中”
他要是找得到这样的医生
可以去买彩票了 |
e****e 发帖数: 3450 | 35 混吃等死很好玩么?
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那些人预计自己65岁前就挂了 : 也蛮可怜的
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e****e 发帖数: 3450 | 36 自己开个small business有两个人就可以买grou insurance了,弄个好点的PPO,blue
cross的在弯区两个人也就1千来块一个月,比medicare选择余地大多了
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人真是刚上岸的 : 65岁以上,有钱也买不到保险 : 没有保险公司卖给你 : 懂吗?
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P*O 发帖数: 4324 | 37 哇真是好消息,O8要不是这么善变咋会从州议员爬到总统宝座呢. |
l**t 发帖数: 6971 | 38 你当保险公司都是傻子啊?
两个70岁老头老太,一个心脏病一个癌症,开个“small business”买group insurance。。。 |
e****e 发帖数: 3450 | 39 你自己去问问不就知道了?别的我不知道,其中一个大龄心脏病我是知道的
insurance。。。
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你当保险公司都是傻子啊? : 两个70岁老头老太,一个心脏病一个癌症,开个“small business”买group insurance。。。
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n****i 发帖数: 1772 | 40 这就是一个fraud的例子。
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你自己去问问不就知道了?别的我不知道,其中一个大龄心脏病我是知道的 : : insurance。。。
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L******t 发帖数: 1985 | 42 Ain't it the case that majority middle-class themselves handed over the
Congress to Republicans?
agree
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I agree with you that it is so sick. : But, it is Republicans in both Houses of Congress that are so sick. : They vowed to block EVERY bill in congress UNLESS Democrats and Obama agree : to extend tax cuts to the richest. : Congressional Democrats 曾经提出两个修正案, : 对年薪50万和100万以下的大多数家庭和个人免税, : 遭到 Republican filibuster 封杀 : 他们坚持要对最富的人减税 : Republican 还是人么? :
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M********8 发帖数: 3837 | 43 你老肯定没有处理过Medicare账单,20万的“富人”(哈哈哈)肯定负担不了离开
Medicare。
如果要完全离开Medicare,是没有保险可买的,全都是自费。我公婆进院小病留了四天
观察,12万的账单,没有保险的话没有negotiated rate, 年薪20万的“富人”根本折
腾不了几年就全部败光了。
Medicare系统里面你可以买supplemental insurance, 但是一定要Medicare保底,而且
supplemental每年加价达到20%左右。好的医生已经离开了Medicare Medicaid系统,只
收现钞,但是能付现钞的年老病人有几个?这些现钞家庭医生一个小时400大元,专科
医生过千,几个老人看得起?20万的“富人”也看不起。
【在 n****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我老虽然不反O8, 但也有必要给你讲讲,年薪20万以上的退休后多半是个富人,宁愿多 : 付钱而不用medicare, 如果这个系 : 统没有被fix的话。现在医生如果有选择的话,都会想方设法的离开medicare系统,很 : 不幸,O8刚刚给他们减了工资。等 : 你7老8十了,想去看病的时候,忽然发现周围收medicare的医生都是埃塞俄比亚印度古 : 巴边远山区毕业的,或者是铁岭医 : 学院毕业的老中,你打算省这个钱么?
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 44 then how are these rich people dealing with insurance right now? they are
not old enough to be qualified for medicare.
are you telling me they dont have insurance at all at this moment?
【在 M********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你老肯定没有处理过Medicare账单,20万的“富人”(哈哈哈)肯定负担不了离开 : Medicare。 : 如果要完全离开Medicare,是没有保险可买的,全都是自费。我公婆进院小病留了四天 : 观察,12万的账单,没有保险的话没有negotiated rate, 年薪20万的“富人”根本折 : 腾不了几年就全部败光了。 : Medicare系统里面你可以买supplemental insurance, 但是一定要Medicare保底,而且 : supplemental每年加价达到20%左右。好的医生已经离开了Medicare Medicaid系统,只 : 收现钞,但是能付现钞的年老病人有几个?这些现钞家庭医生一个小时400大元,专科 : 医生过千,几个老人看得起?20万的“富人”也看不起。
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 45 Milpitas88 姐姐
别理那个疯子,他MS昨天刚上岸的
赚了点美金,高兴的得意忘形
他那个社会层级
那能理解富人是怎么过的 |
y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 46 是啊,我就是一个大老粗中产.
不象某些人整天在bbs上装富人...
lol...
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Milpitas88 姐姐 : 别理那个疯子,他MS昨天刚上岸的 : 赚了点美金,高兴的得意忘形 : 他那个社会层级 : 那能理解富人是怎么过的
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 47 They may have voted for Republicans out of frustration, which did not result
from the Obama administration and Democratic Congress.
Voters want Republicans to work with Democrats.
They do not expect a Republican autocracy.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ain't it the case that majority middle-class themselves handed over the : Congress to Republicans? : : agree
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 48 do u know who will get most percentage wise increase of income tax when bush
tax cut expires?
result
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : They may have voted for Republicans out of frustration, which did not result : from the Obama administration and Democratic Congress. : Voters want Republicans to work with Democrats. : They do not expect a Republican autocracy.
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 49 hint, they will pay 50% more income tax than they pay under bush tax cut,
assuming unchanged income.
bush
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do u know who will get most percentage wise increase of income tax when bush : tax cut expires? : : result
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t***h 发帖数: 5601 | 50 re
从2001年到现在, 小布什的减税方案已经实施了长达10年之久. 但是10年以来, 美国的
失业率不仅没有改善, 反而上升到了10%左右.
美国企业并不缺钱, 美国富翁也不缺钱, 但是他们更愿意outsourcing jobs, 而不愿在
美国本土增加工作机会.
减税 -> 财政赤字 -> QE2 -> Fed monetizes deficit -> 更多的危机...
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : They may have voted for Republicans out of frustration, which did not result : from the Obama administration and Democratic Congress. : Voters want Republicans to work with Democrats. : They do not expect a Republican autocracy.
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 51 不如你看看从什么时候到10%的吧.
怎么会到10%的吧.
如果不是文盲的话,接受一下我signature video的资本主义再教育.
【在 t***h 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : re : 从2001年到现在, 小布什的减税方案已经实施了长达10年之久. 但是10年以来, 美国的 : 失业率不仅没有改善, 反而上升到了10%左右. : 美国企业并不缺钱, 美国富翁也不缺钱, 但是他们更愿意outsourcing jobs, 而不愿在 : 美国本土增加工作机会. : 减税 -> 财政赤字 -> QE2 -> Fed monetizes deficit -> 更多的危机...
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 52 他们已经占了人民8年便宜了,可以停歇了
富人的利益不需要你去争取
你那个积极,他们的狗都会惭愧
【在 y****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hint, they will pay 50% more income tax than they pay under bush tax cut, : assuming unchanged income. : : bush
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B******e 发帖数: 5730 | 53 这好笑
富人减税8年,美国也没变更好
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x***m 发帖数: 1733 | 54 is there any 民主素养 demonstrated in this tie? hehe
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他们已经占了人民8年便宜了,可以停歇了 : 富人的利益不需要你去争取 : 你那个积极,他们的狗都会惭愧
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 55 富人个屁.
the lowest income bracket from 10% to 15%, it is 50% increase of the income
tax they gonna pay.
you idiot.
【在 B******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他们已经占了人民8年便宜了,可以停歇了 : 富人的利益不需要你去争取 : 你那个积极,他们的狗都会惭愧
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