m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | |
s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 2 This is where and where? |
s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 3 which five are core?
taking-the-network/#more-
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: 不在这五个core groups的，自求多福吧。
: http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-ci
: 26519
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 4 We will take bold steps and we will make tough decisions. With change
comes disruption, and you will see
this necessary and healthy disruption as we make meaningful decisions in a
timely, targeted and measureable
way. We will address with surgical precision what we need to fix in our
portfolio and what we need to better
enable.
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: This is where and where?
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 5 can't you guys just read?
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: which five are core?
:
: taking-the-network/#more-
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s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 6 too long. need exec summary.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: can't you guys just read?
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s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 7 core routing, switching and services; collaboration; data center
virtualization and cloud; architectures; and video.
found it!
what is collaboration? HR, Operation and Finance?
what is architechtures? IOS?
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: can't you guys just read?
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 8 I think collaboration means things like webex.
don't know what is architecture, backhaul?
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: core routing, switching and services; collaboration; data center
: virtualization and cloud; architectures; and video.
: found it!
: what is collaboration? HR, Operation and Finance?
: what is architechtures? IOS?
|
s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 9 There is really not much besides the 5 core, actually I think they have only
2 cores, routing/switching/data center and collaboration.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: can't you guys just read?
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x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 10 is it a coincidence that Huawei enters the town.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: We will take bold steps and we will make tough decisions. With change
: comes disruption, and you will see
: this necessary and healthy disruption as we make meaningful decisions in a
: timely, targeted and measureable
: way. We will address with surgical precision what we need to fix in our
: portfolio and what we need to better
: enable.
|
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c*a
发帖数: 806 | 11 network architecture with core-distribution-access model has been disrupted
by its competitor, hence huge blow to their solution. Cisco doesn't want to
be led by others' model.
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: core routing, switching and services; collaboration; data center
: virtualization and cloud; architectures; and video.
: found it!
: what is collaboration? HR, Operation and Finance?
: what is architechtures? IOS?
|
f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | |
f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | |
t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 14 cut 500, 涨5%
cut 5000, 涨20%
cut 50000, 涨100%
【在 f*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不会这么立竿见影吧，今天涨了5%？什么消息？
|
T****7
发帖数: 1613 | |
p****l
发帖数: 545 | 16 只留下CEO然后把钱全分给股东？
【在 t*****9 的大作中提到】
: cut 500, 涨5%
: cut 5000, 涨20%
: cut 50000, 涨100%
|
o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 17 股东们一定很高兴啊
【在 p****l 的大作中提到】
: 只留下CEO然后把钱全分给股东？
|
r********r
发帖数: 964 | 18 nod，多数股东都是杀鸡取卵的心态
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 股东们一定很高兴啊
|
o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 19 股东不是慈善家，人家没那个义务养鸡，套利是人家的宗旨
眼瞅着csco这只大笨象就要down turn了，琢磨着早点cash out也是正常的
【在 r********r 的大作中提到】
: nod，多数股东都是杀鸡取卵的心态
|
r********r
发帖数: 964 | 20 上市公司的悲哀啊，bottomline to bottomline，
能看到一年以后的ceo就是牛人了
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 股东不是慈善家，人家没那个义务养鸡，套利是人家的宗旨
: 眼瞅着csco这只大笨象就要down turn了，琢磨着早点cash out也是正常的
|
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c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | 21 说句要冒犯很多硅工的话，思科如果垮了，会有很多小公司成长起来的，思科的人也要
去发一把。现在思科半死不活的，多没有意思呀！
所以大家要盼着思科的倒台。让一批的startup,茁壮的成长。为GDP做贡献。
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: 不在这五个core groups的，自求多福吧。
: http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-ci
: 26519
|
o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 22 为啥思科垮了就会有多小公司成长起来？啥道理？
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 说句要冒犯很多硅工的话，思科如果垮了，会有很多小公司成长起来的，思科的人也要
: 去发一把。现在思科半死不活的，多没有意思呀！
: 所以大家要盼着思科的倒台。让一批的startup,茁壮的成长。为GDP做贡献。
|
w*c
发帖数: 34 | |
c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | 24 道理很简单。现在思科基本上是垄断地位。如果倒台了，市场上总是有需求的，所以很
多现在小的vendor就有机会了。现在就有很多的小公司，可惜都被思科给挤得很难生存。
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 为啥思科垮了就会有多小公司成长起来？啥道理？
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 25 GM垮了，好象也没啥小公司长起来。
存。
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 道理很简单。现在思科基本上是垄断地位。如果倒台了，市场上总是有需求的，所以很
: 多现在小的vendor就有机会了。现在就有很多的小公司，可惜都被思科给挤得很难生存。
|
P*****f
发帖数: 2272 | 26 CISCO 在湾区有多少人，房事影响大不 ？
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: 不在这五个core groups的，自求多福吧。
: http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-ci
: 26519
|
c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | 27 你呀，一看就是在思科上班的，担心自己的饭碗了吧？！
GM就是被几个别的大公司给击垮的，再加上人工费太高(worker union)。不是被小公司。
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: GM垮了，好象也没啥小公司长起来。
:
: 存。
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 28 你认为网络通讯还是个能出大量小公司的行业吗？
司。
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你呀，一看就是在思科上班的，担心自己的饭碗了吧？！
: GM就是被几个别的大公司给击垮的，再加上人工费太高(worker union)。不是被小公司。
|
o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 29 nod, 所以我问lz是什么道理，可惜lz也没说出个所以然
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: GM垮了，好象也没啥小公司长起来。
:
: 存。
|
j**w
发帖数: 382 | 30
Cisco's Unified Communications
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns151/networking_solutions_un
nications_home.html
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: core routing, switching and services; collaboration; data center
: virtualization and cloud; architectures; and video.
: found it!
: what is collaboration? HR, Operation and Finance?
: what is architechtures? IOS?
|
|
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j**w
发帖数: 382 | 31 Network Software and Systems Technology Group (NSSTG), the home of many
Cisco routing/switching softwares, including IOS. |
T****7
发帖数: 1613 | 32 说白了第一Cisco的execution不行。第二对员工太mean。 |
l*******u
发帖数: 12906 | 33 看csco的profile，现在的全职员工有70700人。谁知道要精简多少人？
is-taking-the-network/#more-
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: 不在这五个core groups的，自求多福吧。
: http://blogs.cisco.com/news/message-from-john-chambers-where-ci
: 26519
|
t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 34 priceless
【在 p****l 的大作中提到】
: 只留下CEO然后把钱全分给股东？
|
s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 35 It looks like Chambers does not have to send that mail if cut is less 5%.
【在 l*******u 的大作中提到】
: 看csco的profile，现在的全职员工有70700人。谁知道要精简多少人？
:
: is-taking-the-network/#more-
|
s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 36 This is so true, many people who were let go in 2001 major layoff turned out to be much better off. While those who were "lucky" to be kept by Cisco did not get salary increase in the next 5+ years, plus the stock sucked big time.
【在 c*********t 的大作中提到】
: 说句要冒犯很多硅工的话，思科如果垮了，会有很多小公司成长起来的，思科的人也要
: 去发一把。现在思科半死不活的，多没有意思呀！
: 所以大家要盼着思科的倒台。让一批的startup,茁壮的成长。为GDP做贡献。
|
f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | 37 April 12, 2011, 10:59 a.m. EDT
Cisco to dump Flip camera, cut 550 jobs
CEO Chambers pursues ‘bold steps’ and ‘tough decisions’
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cisco-to-dump-flip-camera-cut-
风水轮流转？听说dell和nokia都在hiring |
t*****9
发帖数: 10416 | 38 5% up
【在 f*******s 的大作中提到】
: April 12, 2011, 10:59 a.m. EDT
: Cisco to dump Flip camera, cut 550 jobs
: CEO Chambers pursues ‘bold steps’ and ‘tough decisions’
: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cisco-to-dump-flip-camera-cut-
: 风水轮流转？听说dell和nokia都在hiring
|
T****7
发帖数: 1613 | 39 seems they will not do a 10% salary raise.. |
d*******d
发帖数: 2050 | 40 nokia is cutting.
【在 f*******s 的大作中提到】
: April 12, 2011, 10:59 a.m. EDT
: Cisco to dump Flip camera, cut 550 jobs
: CEO Chambers pursues ‘bold steps’ and ‘tough decisions’
: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cisco-to-dump-flip-camera-cut-
: 风水轮流转？听说dell和nokia都在hiring
|
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q**j
发帖数: 10612 | 41 flip不是卖的还不错么？
【在 f*******s 的大作中提到】
: April 12, 2011, 10:59 a.m. EDT
: Cisco to dump Flip camera, cut 550 jobs
: CEO Chambers pursues ‘bold steps’ and ‘tough decisions’
: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cisco-to-dump-flip-camera-cut-
: 风水轮流转？听说dell和nokia都在hiring
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | |
j******g
发帖数: 139 | |
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 44 In Chambers We Trust
【在 j******g 的大作中提到】
: 下一波是啥？机顶盒？
|
f*******a
发帖数: 612 | 45 cisco的观点是smart phone对单一功能的video camera市场的挤压，
flip没有前途，其实保留个一两年还是没问题的，cisco有点太急了，
2009花了差不多600M买过来，现在又要花300M layoff，加上杂七杂八
的估计都1B了，我只能说cisco钱真是多的烧。
【在 q**j 的大作中提到】
: flip不是卖的还不错么？
|
t****p
发帖数: 1703 | 46 smartphone对entry level的point&shoot digital camera的打压也很大，不过也一样
能在熬个一两年的
【在 f*******a 的大作中提到】
: cisco的观点是smart phone对单一功能的video camera市场的挤压，
: flip没有前途，其实保留个一两年还是没问题的，cisco有点太急了，
: 2009花了差不多600M买过来，现在又要花300M layoff，加上杂七杂八
: 的估计都1B了，我只能说cisco钱真是多的烧。
|
f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | 47 nok's new site in sunnyvale?
aside from cutting, do you guys think csco will aquire someone? brcd?
【在 d*******d 的大作中提到】
: nokia is cutting.
|
Z****e
发帖数: 2999 | 48 那个new site估计是在前任CEO下台前搞的吧，我看前景不妙
【在 f*******s 的大作中提到】
: nok's new site in sunnyvale?
: aside from cutting, do you guys think csco will aquire someone? brcd?
|
s**********n
发帖数: 2343 | 49 How many employee in Flip? Lucky them! 1Billion!
【在 f*******a 的大作中提到】
: cisco的观点是smart phone对单一功能的video camera市场的挤压，
: flip没有前途，其实保留个一两年还是没问题的，cisco有点太急了，
: 2009花了差不多600M买过来，现在又要花300M layoff，加上杂七杂八
: 的估计都1B了，我只能说cisco钱真是多的烧。
|
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 50 Many laid off engineers want back to china in 2002 because they could not
find job now are much much much better than those stayed in SV.
out to be much better off. While those who were "lucky" to be kept by Cisco
did not get salary increase in the next 5+ years, plus the stock sucked big
time.
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: This is so true, many people who were let go in 2001 major layoff turned out to be much better off. While those who were "lucky" to be kept by Cisco did not get salary increase in the next 5+ years, plus the stock sucked big time.
|
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x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 51 which company they go in china would make them end up better than in the
valley ne?
Cisco
big
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: Many laid off engineers want back to china in 2002 because they could not
: find job now are much much much better than those stayed in SV.
:
: out to be much better off. While those who were "lucky" to be kept by Cisco
: did not get salary increase in the next 5+ years, plus the stock sucked big
: time.
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 52 buy a couple of houses.
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: which company they go in china would make them end up better than in the
: valley ne?
:
: Cisco
: big
|
x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 53 2002, 100m2 house within 4-loops in Beijing is worth $10w le. a normal
engineering working for two years in
US can hardly have that amount, let along several houses.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: buy a couple of houses.
|
s********z
发帖数: 5411 | 54 我不明白为什么是shut down, write off,而不是卖掉呢？
【在 f*******a 的大作中提到】
: cisco的观点是smart phone对单一功能的video camera市场的挤压，
: flip没有前途，其实保留个一两年还是没问题的，cisco有点太急了，
: 2009花了差不多600M买过来，现在又要花300M layoff，加上杂七杂八
: 的估计都1B了，我只能说cisco钱真是多的烧。
|
P*****f
发帖数: 2272 | 55 True. but that may not apply this time
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: buy a couple of houses.
|
r*****s
发帖数: 985 | 56 运气好而已，
这都是命，
三份靠打拼，
七分天注定。
【在 P*****f 的大作中提到】
: True. but that may not apply this time
|
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 57 Within the time frame between 2001 to 2011, every company in China (BJ and
SH) is better than that in US(MSFT, Motorola, IBM, .....csco, ..............
.)
One million $ is the lower limit for average engineer.
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: which company they go in china would make them end up better than in the
: valley ne?
:
: Cisco
: big
|
x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 58 give a name of the company? huawei, baidu, alibaba. tercent?
..
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: Within the time frame between 2001 to 2011, every company in China (BJ and
: SH) is better than that in US(MSFT, Motorola, IBM, .....csco, ..............
: .)
: One million $ is the lower limit for average engineer.
|
f*******a
发帖数: 612 | 59 550(?) according to the news
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】
: How many employee in Flip? Lucky them! 1Billion!
|
f*******a
发帖数: 612 | 60 不知道，难道卖不掉？
【在 s********z 的大作中提到】
: 我不明白为什么是shut down, write off,而不是卖掉呢？
|
|
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l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 61 No, the same company with China Branch, like Motorola (US), Motorola (China)
The salary in China is about one third of the salary in US, but after 10
years
Chinese employees have much more money thant those US employees.
This is my personal experience.
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: give a name of the company? huawei, baidu, alibaba. tercent?
:
: ..
|
x***m
发帖数: 1733 | 62 then where did they make the money? their stock is also less than their
counterpart in US.
China)
【在 l******c 的大作中提到】
: No, the same company with China Branch, like Motorola (US), Motorola (China)
: The salary in China is about one third of the salary in US, but after 10
: years
: Chinese employees have much more money thant those US employees.
: This is my personal experience.
|
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 63 apparently, a small appartment(condo), million$ condo
【在 x***m 的大作中提到】
: then where did they make the money? their stock is also less than their
: counterpart in US.
:
: China)
|
s*******s
发帖数: 9926 | |
s********z
发帖数: 5411 | 65 这种大公司不公开solicit offer,怕卖不掉跌面子？
【在 f*******a 的大作中提到】
: 不知道，难道卖不掉？
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 66 Nokia cutting 38% of its R&D, my feeling the site in Sunnyvale will be hit
hard. |
P*****f
发帖数: 2272 | 67 any people move in there? seriously, I heard it's for executive/management.
I could be wrong.
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: Nokia cutting 38% of its R&D, my feeling the site in Sunnyvale will be hit
: hard.
|
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 68 That one is for consolidation of Nokia offices in bay area. So I guess they
don't need to move in at all now.
.
【在 P*****f 的大作中提到】
: any people move in there? seriously, I heard it's for executive/management.
: I could be wrong.
|
f******e
发帖数: 87 | 69 Dolby lab is going to close its san jose office. R&D swept out. |
o***e
发帖数: 641 | 70 is this official now?
【在 f******e 的大作中提到】
: Dolby lab is going to close its san jose office. R&D swept out.
|
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m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 71 I thought Dolby is in SF, no? |
o***e
发帖数: 641 | 72 if so, lots of layoff coming this year? i also heard that oracle/sun is
planning to layoff many ppl in the bay area the 3rd quarter this year...
interesting |
m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | |
r********r
发帖数: 964 | 74 你什么时候也房黑了。。。
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: 尸横遍野啊
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o***e
发帖数: 641 | 75 真的会这么惨么？有局内人出来说说么？奶奶的，这要是真的，房价还要掉啊？sigh |
l******c
发帖数: 2555 | 76 DB is an England company, has an US office in SF, after going public, open a
R&D center in San Jose, video, directshow, .....
【在 m*******i 的大作中提到】
: I thought Dolby is in SF, no?
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