p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 1 way to go! agents!
硅工 better believe it. nothing is impossible in the valley.
Jun, 2011 Sold (MLS) (Sold) $1,1M
May, 2011 Sold (Public Records) $1,1M
May, 2011 Sold (Public Records)
Feb, 2011 Pending (Pending Without Release)
Jan, 2011 Price Changed $1,2M
Nov, 2010 Price Changed $1,25M
Oct, 2010 Price Changed $1,3M
Oct, 2010 Relisted (Active)
Aug, 2010 Pending (Pending With Release)
Jun, 2010 Listed (Active) $1,4M
Jun, 2000 Sold (Public Records) $1,3M
Jun, 1998 Sold (Public Records) $0.55M | o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 2 5月到6月sold三次是啥意思啊？
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: way to go! agents!
: 硅工 better believe it. nothing is impossible in the valley.
: Jun, 2011 Sold (MLS) (Sold) $1,1M
: May, 2011 Sold (Public Records) $1,1M
: May, 2011 Sold (Public Records)
: Feb, 2011 Pending (Pending Without Release)
: Jan, 2011 Price Changed $1,2M
: Nov, 2010 Price Changed $1,25M
: Oct, 2010 Price Changed $1,3M
: Oct, 2010 Relisted (Active)
| o********n
发帖数: 59 | 3 在附近所谓的好学区，98、99年买的房子，价格和现在最低时比，基本都是40～50：
100.我查了好多案例都是这个情况。 | m*******i
发帖数: 8711 | 4 update record in different places.
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 5月到6月sold三次是啥意思啊？
| l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 5 你老又来了。数字明显是你改过的。你这个比BSO年收入30万又不贴W2/1040的更不靠谱。
你老还是赶快把大家喜闻乐见的硅谷公司系列写完吧！ | p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 6 改过? 我就是保留一位小数而已. 前面有人已经说了, 日期俺也省了. 别说啥没给地址
,
凭三藩兄弟的水平, 每个房子都可以找到.
俺的目的也不是想证明哪位兄弟已经做了蠢事, 所以房托也没有必要辩, 要求更多信息啥的. But this information should be enough to dissuade the smart ones
from doing something really stupid le.
谱。
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 你老又来了。数字明显是你改过的。你这个比BSO年收入30万又不贴W2/1040的更不靠谱。
: 你老还是赶快把大家喜闻乐见的硅谷公司系列写完吧！
| c**l
发帖数: 9003 | 7 TOTAL INFLATION RATE DURING THIS PERIOD IS 38.63% | o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 8 这句话从哪里来的啊？
【在 c**l 的大作中提到】
: TOTAL INFLATION RATE DURING THIS PERIOD IS 38.63%
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 9 Why not compare with its 1998 price? Given the miserable return housing
market has had in the last 10 years, I would say it is probably a good time
to own a home if one can afford it.
To put it into historical perspective, many people now believe that gold is
the only worthy investment in the world. But if you compare gold price 1980-
2000, gold actually lost value, even in nominal terms. In the same time
window, stock market has 10x return.
In the last 10 years, apparently, gold has an amazing run (5x), while stock
market has almost zero return, and housing market also has minimal return (
if any at all). But that doesn't imply the future performance is going to
suck (just think about gold in 2000). If anything, it means that the housing
price and stock price is much closer to their intrinsic value than 10 years
ago. Which is actually quite bullish.
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: way to go! agents!
: 硅工 better believe it. nothing is impossible in the valley.
: Jun, 2011 Sold (MLS) (Sold) $1,1M
: May, 2011 Sold (Public Records) $1,1M
: May, 2011 Sold (Public Records)
: Feb, 2011 Pending (Pending Without Release)
: Jan, 2011 Price Changed $1,2M
: Nov, 2010 Price Changed $1,25M
: Oct, 2010 Price Changed $1,3M
: Oct, 2010 Relisted (Active)
| l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 10 老大，我可不托房子的。不过我想不出硅谷哪个顶尖好区比2000年跌15%的。除非是房
子本身的问题。
要不你把MLS number PM给我？我得好好研究一下。
息啥的. But this information should be enough to dissuade the smart ones
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: 改过? 我就是保留一位小数而已. 前面有人已经说了, 日期俺也省了. 别说啥没给地址
: ,
: 凭三藩兄弟的水平, 每个房子都可以找到.
: 俺的目的也不是想证明哪位兄弟已经做了蠢事, 所以房托也没有必要辩, 要求更多信息啥的. But this information should be enough to dissuade the smart ones
: from doing something really stupid le.
:
: 谱。
| | | l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 11 因为跌了，所以一定会涨！
赞逻辑。。。
time
is
1980-
stock
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: Why not compare with its 1998 price? Given the miserable return housing
: market has had in the last 10 years, I would say it is probably a good time
: to own a home if one can afford it.
: To put it into historical perspective, many people now believe that gold is
: the only worthy investment in the world. But if you compare gold price 1980-
: 2000, gold actually lost value, even in nominal terms. In the same time
: window, stock market has 10x return.
: In the last 10 years, apparently, gold has an amazing run (5x), while stock
: market has almost zero return, and housing market also has minimal return (
: if any at all). But that doesn't imply the future performance is going to
| p***e
发帖数: 1318 | 12 maybe in a 差区, it might be sometimes a worthy debate whether there is a
buy
in opportunity.
If you try the overbidding game happening in Palo Alto, Saratoga, Cu these
years, it is the financial equivalent of russian roulette. You win, you die
.
And it is much more costly a mistake than those who bought in so-called
差区 and got foreclosed.
time
is
1980-
stock
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: Why not compare with its 1998 price? Given the miserable return housing
: market has had in the last 10 years, I would say it is probably a good time
: to own a home if one can afford it.
: To put it into historical perspective, many people now believe that gold is
: the only worthy investment in the world. But if you compare gold price 1980-
: 2000, gold actually lost value, even in nominal terms. In the same time
: window, stock market has 10x return.
: In the last 10 years, apparently, gold has an amazing run (5x), while stock
: market has almost zero return, and housing market also has minimal return (
: if any at all). But that doesn't imply the future performance is going to
| o****e
发帖数: 4946 | 13 房托的逻辑一向是很强大的
就算没了逻辑，还有大陆的大款怀揣着大把的钞票来提供逻辑的
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 因为跌了，所以一定会涨！
: 赞逻辑。。。
:
: time
: is
: 1980-
: stock
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 14 I am not a 房托. Seriously, that is just my view -- if you can afford it and
need it, buy it now.
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: 房托的逻辑一向是很强大的
: 就算没了逻辑，还有大陆的大款怀揣着大把的钞票来提供逻辑的
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 15 Truth is, most Palo Alto buyers can afford the mistake, it it were to be a
mistake at all.
die
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: maybe in a 差区, it might be sometimes a worthy debate whether there is a
: buy
: in opportunity.
: If you try the overbidding game happening in Palo Alto, Saratoga, Cu these
: years, it is the financial equivalent of russian roulette. You win, you die
: .
: And it is much more costly a mistake than those who bought in so-called
: 差区 and got foreclosed.
:
: time
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 16 In fact, unlike gold, house and stock do have plenty of intrinsic
value.
And because of this, yes, it will go up when it is down enough.
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
: 因为跌了，所以一定会涨！
: 赞逻辑。。。
:
: time
: is
: 1980-
: stock
| l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 17
真正有钱人买的价位，4m的房子变成3m，是普遍现象。就算是真有钱人，1m也不是小事
了。
BBS上的人觉得房子没怎么跌，是因为大多数都在看1m左右的好区房子。这个价位和地
段的房子的确没怎么跌。下一步是会因为利率上涨贷款更严造成这些房子步multi-
million dollar房子的后尘，还是因为工资暴涨IPO发财外加好区房子供应有限把1m以
上的房子也撑上去，就说不清了。
左右都要赌，赌错了就是几十万的loss，或是miss掉几十万的gain而且永远被price
out。
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: Truth is, most Palo Alto buyers can afford the mistake, it it were to be a
: mistake at all.
:
: die
| l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 18
这不是废话吗？问题是how much is enough?
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: In fact, unlike gold, house and stock do have plenty of intrinsic
: value.
: And because of this, yes, it will go up when it is down enough.
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 19 last post before going to bed, :-).
I understand where you are coming from, but don't under-estimate the number
of people in the valley who are doing well enough to support a few select
prime areas.
die
【在 p***e 的大作中提到】
: maybe in a 差区, it might be sometimes a worthy debate whether there is a
: buy
: in opportunity.
: If you try the overbidding game happening in Palo Alto, Saratoga, Cu these
: years, it is the financial equivalent of russian roulette. You win, you die
: .
: And it is much more costly a mistake than those who bought in so-called
: 差区 and got foreclosed.
:
: time
| s**********l
发帖数: 8966 | 20 修一house的intrinsic value很低，location value大还差不多。
但是现在工资水平，俩人税后全扔房子上也就这么多了，1.3M以上的房子一般人根本买
不起，你怎么论证也没用，除非给人涨工资。
【在 i**p 的大作中提到】
: In fact, unlike gold, house and stock do have plenty of intrinsic
: value.
: And because of this, yes, it will go up when it is down enough.
| | | i**p
发帖数: 940 | 21 I have expressed my view, I think it is probably enough. If you don't think
so, that is fine. We agree to disagree.
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
:
: 这不是废话吗？问题是how much is enough?
| i**p
发帖数: 940 | 22 Your definition of intrinsic value is very pessimistic. IMHO, intrinsic
value of a home != building it up. It is probably a combination of:
1. comfortably housing a family,
2. having a good neighborhood,
3. kids going to good schools,
4. easy to commute,
5. a vehicle to hedge inflation risk.
Only the first item is related to building cost.
【在 s**********l 的大作中提到】
: 修一house的intrinsic value很低，location value大还差不多。
: 但是现在工资水平，俩人税后全扔房子上也就这么多了，1.3M以上的房子一般人根本买
: 不起，你怎么论证也没用，除非给人涨工资。
| c**l
发帖数: 324 | 23 工资在涨，物价涨，回忆十年前广告中说十万年薪不是梦'。
现在都谈三十W了，还说房价不涨，难道涨的是车，电器，
衣服？衣食住行里到底什么涨的凶？ | w******y
发帖数: 8040 | 24 我觉得是后者
入门级小黑屋至少不会跌甚至会有小涨
这是由于弯曲收入暴涨+老中主妇们一定要买房的观念决定的
但不是这个区间的房子（更高或者更低）， 未来几年只会加速跌
a
【在 l**t 的大作中提到】
:
: 这不是废话吗？问题是how much is enough?
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